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06-19-2010, 10:36 AM
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Horton could be on his way to Boston

http://www.rds.ca/hockey/chroniques/301019.html

Sorry for the french link.

RDS report that Horton may be on his way to Boston based on a story on NESN.com

I would hate to have Horton in Boston...not good news for Montreal!

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06-19-2010, 10:39 AM
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That's what I said in an other thread

Big, physical players = Boston, Toronto, Philadelphia
Small players = Montreal

Bruins sign an other power forward and we will prefer to give 5M$ per year to Plekanec

Horton is exactly what we need.

Congrats to the Bruins

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That's what I said in an other thread

Big, physical players = Boston, Toronto, Philadelphia
Small players = Montreal

Bruins sign an other power forward and we will prefer to give 5M$ per year to Plekanec

Horton is exactly what we need.

Congrats to the Bruins
Well, the thread do say it is a rumor based on media stories.....but if this materialize, that is not good news for the habs.....another large sized player in the already oversized Bruins....

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already been discussed in the non related habs thread

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That's what I said in an other thread

Big, physical players = Boston, Toronto, Philadelphia
Small players = Montreal

Bruins sign an other power forward and we will prefer to give 5M$ per year to Plekanec

Horton is exactly what we need.

Congrats to the Bruins
havent watct much florida games last season, but from what i saw he didnt strike me as very physical

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havent watct much florida games last season, but from what i saw he didnt strike me as very physical
Your right but add him to the other large sized player in Boston.....makes for a Philly like team to play against.....not easy indeed....

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Horton is large, he's isn't physically dominating, nor is he particularly defensively proficient. Not too worried about him.

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The guy's a bust, only one season over 30 goals in 6 years. He was a very promising rookie but he fizzled in the NHL. Didnt live up to his billing for sure, just like Price.

Any big guy with normal talent will do the trick, like Lars Eller who is unproven but very talented and should make the club.

So they add a big guy, and we add a big guy (Eller), big deal both are 6'2" and 6'1" With the upside that Eller is younger and faster and that Horton wont get any better, just slower and older.

Lets not go over board: if Horton was that good his club woudnt let him go. Period.

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People are worried that the Habs are going to be small and sign Plekanec to $5 million per, while the rest of the division gets bigger.

One, it isn't 100% that Montreal is re-signing Plekanec, and the salary has yet to be determined. I highly doubt we pay $5 million when we have so much tied into 4 players already in Gomez, Gionta, Cammalleri and Andrei-K.

Two, if the Bruins get Horton they do get bigger, but at what cost? For Blake Wheeler, he is younger and bigger. The Bruins would have to shed more salary in that deal, so another significant player leaves and Horton has been injury prone, hasn't won anything and has been known for his attitude and is a 50-60 point player.

I really think Gauthier is going to address the top 6 with some size and skill, don't worry. Pierre obviously saw why we lost to the Flyers, we didn't have the big bodies to compete and hit back.

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The guy's a bust, only one season over 30 goals in 6 years. He was a very promising rookie but he fizzled in the NHL. Didnt live up to his billing for sure, just like Price.

Any big guy with normal talent will do the trick, like Lars Eller who is unproven but very talented and should make the club.

So they add a big guy, and we add a big guy (Eller), big deal both are 6'2" and 6'1" With the upside that Eller is younger and faster and that Horton wont get any better, just slower and older.

Lets not go over board: if Horton was that good his club woudnt let him go. Period.
what we traded proven, and kept a bust?

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The guy's a bust, only one season over 30 goals in 6 years. He was a very promising rookie but he fizzled in the NHL. Didnt live up to his billing for sure, just like Price.

Any big guy with normal talent will do the trick, like Lars Eller who is unproven but very talented and should make the club.

So they add a big guy, and we add a big guy (Eller), big deal both are 6'2" and 6'1" With the upside that Eller is younger and faster and that Horton wont get any better, just slower and older.

Lets not go over board: if Horton was that good his club woudnt let him go. Period.
So Price is a bust at 22?

I can see it more for Horton as he is 25, but he is a top 6 player, just not the franchise power forward they thought he would be.

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That's what I said in an other thread

Big, physical players = Boston, Toronto, Philadelphia
Small players = Montreal

Bruins sign an other power forward and we will prefer to give 5M$ per year to Plekanec

Horton is exactly what we need.

Congrats to the Bruins
1) This deal hasn't happened yet
2) Even if it does come to pass, can we wait to see what's going the other way before we fall all over ourselves patting Chiarelli on the back? His track record as GM in Boston is very uneven.

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People are worried that the Habs are going to be small and sign Plekanec to $5 million per, while the rest of the division gets bigger.

One, it isn't 100% that Montreal is re-signing Plekanec, and the salary has yet to be determined. I highly doubt we pay $5 million when we have so much tied into 4 players already in Gomez, Gionta, Cammalleri and Andrei-K.

Two, if the Bruins get Horton they do get bigger, but at what cost? For Blake Wheeler, he is younger and bigger. The Bruins would have to shed more salary in that deal, so another significant player leaves and Horton has been injury prone, hasn't won anything and has been known for his attitude and is a 50-60 point player.

I really think Gauthier is going to address the top 6 with some size and skill, don't worry. Pierre obviously saw why we lost to the Flyers, we didn't have the big bodies to compete and hit back.
Blake Wheeler has no hockey sense and he is much softer than Horton. He reminds me a better Pacioretty...

I hope you are right for the rest of your post

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what we traded proven, and kept a bust?
Let the kid grow; i give Price 2 more years before i declare him a TOTAL bust and trade him for 3 hockey sticks, one puck and an O-Pee-Chee Patrick Roy rookie card.

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what we traded proven, and kept a bust?
Price a bust?.....are you kidding me?......invest in a book (the abc's of hockey).... that comment is simply ridiculous....regardless if you are a Halak or a Price fan....

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Price a bust?.....are you kidding me?......invest in a book (the abc's of hockey).... that comment is simply ridiculous....regardless if you are a Halak or a Price fan....
Hope your quoting Ice P, i facepalmed motioned his statment

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Let the kid grow; i give Price 2 more years before i declare him a TOTAL bust and trade him for 3 hockey sticks, one puck and an O-Pee-Chee Patrick Roy rookie card.
Apply that statment to yourself, Sir, im fully aware of that already.

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So Price is a bust at 22?

I can see it more for Horton as he is 25, but he is a top 6 player, just not the franchise power forward they thought he would be.
Yes, that is the way I see him.....a top 6 who did nto pawn out as a franchise player......BUT, Cam Neely was not exactly a franchise player before going to Boston.....yet history records that he fullfil his destiny once in Boston......

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The guy's a bust, only one season over 30 goals in 6 years. He was a very promising rookie but he fizzled in the NHL. Didnt live up to his billing for sure, just like Price.
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By the way, i never said Price was a bust.

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Hope your quoting Ice P, i facepalmed motioned his statment
Yeah....that was my intent...but took the wrong post.....

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By the way, i never said Price was a bust.
i hope not plus i have no idea what you meant by 'billing'

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Let the kid grow; i give Price 2 more years before i declare him a TOTAL bust and trade him for 3 hockey sticks, one puck and an O-Pee-Chee Patrick Roy rookie card.
actually , logically speaking, your indirectly stating hes pretty much a bust there.

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Let the kid grow; i give Price 2 more years before i declare him a TOTAL bust and trade him for 3 hockey sticks, one puck and an O-Pee-Chee Patrick Roy rookie card.
If a O-Pee-Chee Patrick Roy card is involved in a Price trade it is obvious he isn't a bust!

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actually , logically speaking, your indirectly stating hes pretty much a bust there.
No, i dont think he has lived up to his billing. Google is your friend!

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No, i dont think he has lived up to his billing. Google is your friend!
his salary was 850k and made a extra 1.4mil in bonuses; logically speaking here, if he made his bonus targets, technically hes worth his "billing" ...

who cares, horton is overrated :p


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That's what I said in an other thread

Big, physical players = Boston, Toronto, Philadelphia
Small players = Montreal

Bruins sign an other power forward and we will prefer to give 5M$ per year to Plekanec

Horton is exactly what we need.

Congrats to the Bruins
Boston was full of big players that "CHOKED" to Philly in the biggest meltdown in NHL history. Stop whining and watch "Little people, big world" . Little people need love too.

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imo it already slipped out when you said "hes not TOTALLY bust" which means hes pretty much a bust. especially since your anticipating to give him the title in 2 years.
I never said he was a bust, i said he didnt "live up to his billing" wich means he hasnt yet performed as we think he should or hoped he would. And i said i'd declare him a bust in two years. Not half a bust, not one sixteenth a bust or not one third a bust: a total bust. As of now he's on the hot plate. He must perform well and on a regular fashion. Stop putting words in my mouth please.

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