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06-20-2010, 10:14 PM
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Carter for Bryzgalov, Lombardi and 2nd round 11
So basically we trade away our spinal cord, eyes, and spleen...correct?

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06-20-2010, 10:16 PM
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How has Turris developed?
Slowly but surely. Just had a successful year down with the Rampage of AHL, and is expected to make the team as a 2nd/3rd line center this upcoming season.

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06-20-2010, 10:25 PM
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Mike Ribeiro?
Word on the Coyotes board is that he's a floater and bad defensively. Plus, I thought Tippett didn't think much of him?

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Patrick Sharp?

Could be your #1 C for upcoming season if you need a replacement

3.9 mil x 2 yrs
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What does it take to get Sharp?

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Carter for Bryzgalov, Lombardi and 2nd round 11
No way. You don't trade your Vezina candidate goalie away and assume Jason LaBarbera will take care of everything else.

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06-20-2010, 11:00 PM
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I imagine one of the moves the Yotes make is Wolski back to center. It is natural and preferred position.

I tend to believe that Phoenix acquired him with an eye on the UFA losses.

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06-20-2010, 11:23 PM
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Marleau????

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06-20-2010, 11:36 PM
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I really see Lombardi making his way to Edmonton this year. Its kinda funny they draft him, let him go back in, and now have always wanted him back.

Its not a number 1 centre like they want, but a very decent 1A to push Horcoff to the 3rd spot.

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06-20-2010, 11:41 PM
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Where have you heard this?
He says he has sources inside the Flyers organization. Wonder if they told him about the Hamhuis trade.

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06-21-2010, 12:10 AM
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TRy acquiring Tomas Plekanec's rights. Could be a very good center for the Coyotes. We could work something out with your first 1st round pick..13th overall.

To Pheonix:
Rights to Pleky
25th overall 2010
Ben Maxwell
K brothers?

To Montreal:
13th overall 2010
Kyle Turris? Maclean? Thikonov?

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06-21-2010, 07:22 AM
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No way. You don't trade your Vezina candidate goalie away and assume Jason LaBarbera will take care of everything else.
i would assume they would go out and sign turco, ellis, or mason. it's not like teams go into seasons without a full roster. i don't expect the flyers to enter the season w/ boucher as the only goalie just like i wouldn't expect the coyotes to enter the season w/ labarbera as the only goalie in the highly unlikely event of a carter for bryz+ trade.

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06-21-2010, 07:58 AM
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This might very well work...but I don't see Phoenix trading Bryzgalov who carried them and has a great chance to win the Vezina after this year. Maybe straight up.
Haha, noooo....Bryzgalov has much, much more value than Carter...

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06-21-2010, 08:02 AM
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He says he has sources inside the Flyers organization. Wonder if they told him about the Hamhuis trade.
Yes I have a good source close to the situation but I only tap him for Carter information.

He just tells me Carter will be dealt but he hasn't heard anything about for a young goalie. He just says those places off the top of his head.

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06-21-2010, 08:03 AM
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Haha, noooo....Bryzgalov has much, much more value than Carter...
Ikr, i can't believe the homerism.

Bryzgalov was the MAIN REASON the Coyotes finished where they did.

The same can't even come close to being said about Carter.

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06-21-2010, 11:23 AM
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if the Coyotes wanted Plekanec wouldnt they just go out and sign him? He's a UFA right? Why give up a boatload for someone who could walk a week later? Seriously.

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06-21-2010, 11:25 AM
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Haha, noooo....Bryzgalov has much, much more value than Carter...
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Ikr, i can't believe the homerism.

Bryzgalov was the MAIN REASON the Coyotes finished where they did.

The same can't even come close to being said about Carter.
I meant maybe straight up VALUE wise. If Bryz wasn't a Coyote, it would work, but he's too important to that team.

Oh, and you say "I can't believe homerism". You said you wouldn't trade Karlsson for Gaborik straight up. Oh the irony.

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06-21-2010, 11:29 AM
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TRy acquiring Tomas Plekanec's rights. Could be a very good center for the Coyotes. We could work something out with your first 1st round pick..13th overall.

To Pheonix:
Rights to Pleky
25th overall 2010
Ben Maxwell
K brothers?

To Montreal:
13th overall 2010
Kyle Turris? Maclean? Thikonov?


Not happening.

While Plekanec is a nice option, Phoenix will NOT part with a HUGE part of their future for an Unrestricted Free Agent to be.

If you're trading the "rights" to a UFA, you have to think smaller. Not 1st round picks and or top prospects. For example, I wouldn't expect more than a 2nd rounder for Zbynek Michalek.

The Flyers parted with Parent who didn't figure to be in their long term plans for a UFA in Hamhuis.

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06-21-2010, 08:37 PM
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Yes I have a good source close to the situation but I only tap him for Carter information.

He just tells me Carter will be dealt but he hasn't heard anything about for a young goalie. He just says those places off the top of his head.
I sure hope your right. If I hear jeff carter has been traded to the coyotes on draft day i will jump through the roof.

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06-21-2010, 08:42 PM
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I sure hope your right. If I hear jeff carter has been traded to the coyotes on draft day i will jump through the roof.
Push hard enough and it could happen. Not sure who I'd want from you besides Doan.

I do like your youth. MacLean,Wolski,Goncharov (love him).

But overall, I think it'll take Doan but I guess I'm hearing he will retire before getting traded out of PHO even at the expense of a cup?

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06-21-2010, 08:45 PM
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I sure hope your right. If I hear jeff carter has been traded to the coyotes on draft day i will jump through the roof.
I don't mean to be a downer but there is no way the Coyotes can afford him without giving up 5 million dollars worth of personnel to get him, let alone valuable personnel. We would have to give up prospects to sweeten the deal, and they hardly shed any salary when they leave, so it just seem like it would work. I mean I would be stoked if he ended up on the coyotes, but what would we have to give up? Turris? Boedker? plus roster players such as whom? It just doesn't seem like it could happen. Plus if Philly is serious about acquiring a goalie, and they're for sure about trading Carter then they need to package him in a deal to get a top goalie. For the hell of it, I'll ket you know ho far I would go to get Carter, which probably isn't enough but it is what it is.

My proposal to Philly would be

To the Flyers:
22nd overall
Radim Vrbata
Viktor Tikhonov
2nd in 2011

To the Coyotes:
Jeff Carter

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06-21-2010, 08:48 PM
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I don't mean to be a downer but there is no way the Coyotes can afford him without giving up 5 million dollars worth of personnel to get him, let alone valuable personnel. We would have to give up prospects to sweeten the deal, and they hardly shed any salary when they leave, so it just seem like it would work. I mean I would be stoked if he ended up on the coyotes, but what would we have to give up? Turris? Boedker? plus roster players such as whom? It just doesn't seem like it could happen. Plus if Philly is serious about acquiring a goalie, and they're for sure about trading Carter then they need to package him in a deal to get a top goalie. For the hell of it, I'll ket you know ho far I would go to get Carter, which probably isn't enough but it is what it is.

My proposal to Philly would be

To the Flyers:
22nd overall
Radim Vrbata
Viktor Tikhonov
2nd in 2011

To the Coyotes:
Jeff Carter
Oh yea i know we probably wouldnt be able to afford him but hey i can wish lol

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06-21-2010, 08:49 PM
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Phoenix

rights to Lombardi
rights to Michalek

for

Montreal

rights to Plekanec
Weber
4th round pick'10

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06-21-2010, 08:51 PM
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Push hard enough and it could happen. Not sure who I'd want from you besides Doan.

I do like your youth. MacLean,Wolski,Goncharov (love him).

But overall, I think it'll take Doan but I guess I'm hearing he will retire before getting traded out of PHO even at the expense of a cup?
yea. I would think a deal surrounded by turris, another prospect and a first and a second.

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06-21-2010, 08:55 PM
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Phoenix

rights to Lombardi
rights to Michalek

for

Montreal

rights to Plekanec
Weber
4th round pick'10
if phoenix isnt close to an agreement with either of those guys come saturday, I could see them jumping at this offer.

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I don't mean to be a downer but there is no way the Coyotes can afford him without giving up 5 million dollars worth of personnel to get him, let alone valuable personnel. We would have to give up prospects to sweeten the deal, and they hardly shed any salary when they leave, so it just seem like it would work. I mean I would be stoked if he ended up on the coyotes, but what would we have to give up? Turris? Boedker? plus roster players such as whom? It just doesn't seem like it could happen. Plus if Philly is serious about acquiring a goalie, and they're for sure about trading Carter then they need to package him in a deal to get a top goalie. For the hell of it, I'll ket you know ho far I would go to get Carter, which probably isn't enough but it is what it is.

My proposal to Philly would be

To the Flyers:
22nd overall
Radim Vrbata
Viktor Tikhonov
2nd in 2011

To the Coyotes:
Jeff Carter
I dont get your post. You said they would trade carter for a goalie and then in your proposal it doesnt have a goalie. Its not a salary dump for the Flyers. I hate Carter proposals cause too many people underrate him and because the Flyers arent shopping him. The only way Carter goes is for Bobby Ryan because the Flyers have connections to him.

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06-21-2010, 09:03 PM
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yea. I would think a deal surrounded by turris, another prospect and a first and a second.
well I doubt either team will do that because we would want production coming back and turris is also a center (something we don't need)

I'm not sure I'd oppose this:

Brett MacLean
Boedker
2nd rounder

As long as Boedker is ready. MacLean can have one more year to develop and if we don't sign Gagne or Hartnell... he could fit in with Briere and Leino. I do know this is against the Flyers agenda for a Carter trade bc we don't need to shed salary but we could bounce one of these prospects for a solid player.

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