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06-21-2010, 11:56 AM
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Pretty much like Halak...They are trying to sell him when he's at his highest value.

Would look nice on our 2nd line.
Kind of. They also need to trade him, because of their cap issues.

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I'd play sharp at the wing with Plek and Camm... unless we lose Plek, Sharp would then be a decent center.
IMO Sharp is better than plekanec. Especially if Pleks gets around 5 mill.

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I would immediately offer Sergei Kostitsyn and Yannick Weber/Ben Maxwell. Although, I would imagine that they could get better offers.
2 of those 3 players suck.

Chicago will probably land a first and maybe even a prospect for him. As long as the habs land either him, or Sharp. They've done a good job. Landing Ladd, a decent job. Nothing, it's a fail, unless all of them return a lot.

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opposite of plekanec. More quiet during regular season and the biggest MONSTER in the playoffs

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06-21-2010, 12:11 PM
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If we're paying a high price for him I don't want him. He's very over-rated.

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Gauthier, you will be forgiven if your able to get Byfuglien. I would not understand why the Hawks would trade IMO the MVP of the latest series. That would be as dumb as the Habs just traded Halak.

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06-21-2010, 12:27 PM
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Gauthier, you will be forgiven if your able to get Byfuglien. I would not understand why the Hawks would trade IMO the MVP of the latest series. That would be as dumb as the Habs just traded Halak.
It's called the salary cap and asset management, you should read up on it.

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06-21-2010, 12:37 PM
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It'd be awesome if we could get Dustin Byfuglien on the team. That would fill out a huge void on our top six.

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He's probably the 3rd most overrated player in the NHL after the recent playoffs...after Lucic and Phaneuf.

For a reasonable price I'd take him, but I'm sure Chicago would be looking for a top 10 pick or late 1st and a blue chip young player.
I'm not so sure, he had great playoffs, but they absolutely need to shed salary, so unless a team is willing to overpay, I think he might not be that costly.

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06-21-2010, 12:45 PM
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Pretty much like Halak...They are trying to sell him when he's at his highest value.

Would look nice on our 2nd line.
So he is overrated, but you want him on our second line?

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06-21-2010, 12:46 PM
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He's probably the 3rd most overrated player in the NHL after the recent playoffs...after Lucic and Phaneuf.

For a reasonable price I'd take him, but I'm sure Chicago would be looking for a top 10 pick or late 1st and a blue chip young player.
For a guy who as never had 40 pts playing with an offensive team like Chicago?

The guy is not even worth a 1st round pick. This guy is WAY overvalued.

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06-21-2010, 12:48 PM
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Buff with Gomer and Giant would be orgasmic.

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It's called the salary cap and asset management, you should read up on it.
I know. But there is other players that should go first before him. Hes the part of the core of the Hawks with Toews-Kane-Keith. You dont touch that.

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Meh, I think hes way overrated. A guy making 3 mill a year that will probably cost you picks and prospects is to much. Hes basically invisible during the regular season too from the games i watched. Versteeg fits in our fast skating system. I'd like him.

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I'm not so sure, he had great playoffs, but they absolutely need to shed salary, so unless a team is willing to overpay, I think he might not be that costly.
Because of his playoff performance, I think somebody will overpay. I hope it's not Gauthier. As much as we need a physical presence in the top 6, it has to be at a reasonable price.

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06-21-2010, 01:01 PM
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He had 11 PP points, 6 goals and 5 assists. He only scored 23 points even strength, he isn't worth that salary.

If wanted a big man I would rather Penner.
Markov, AK46 and Hamrlik to Washington for Alzner (21yo stud-D prospect), Fehr (6'4" RW with 21 goals, 25yo) and Laich (6'2" LW with 25 goals, 27yo)

Fehr is RFA, makes under $1M now.

Laich is at $2.067M.

Both are on much better contracts than Byfuglien.

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Markov, AK46 and Hamrlik to Washington for Alzner (21yo stud-D prospect), Fehr (6'4" RW with 21 goals, 25yo) and Laich (6'2" LW with 25 goals, 27yo)

Fehr is RFA, makes under $1M now.

Laich is at $2.067M.

Both are on much better contracts than Byfuglien.
Replace Alzner with Carlson and I'd do it. Problem is you're sending around $13 million in salary to the Caps.

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06-21-2010, 01:06 PM
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I know. But there is other players that should go first before him. Hes the part of the core of the Hawks with Toews-Kane-Keith. You dont touch that.
Hard to call him a core player when he doesn't even score 20 a year. I think he definitely played a role in the playoffs, but a lot of it had to do with having guys like Toews and Kane feeding him the puck.

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Markov, AK46 and Hamrlik to Washington for Alzner (21yo stud-D prospect), Fehr (6'4" RW with 21 goals, 25yo) and Laich (6'2" LW with 25 goals, 27yo)

Fehr is RFA, makes under $1M now.

Laich is at $2.067M.

Both are on much better contracts than Byfuglien.
I don't think Washington could fit that deal into the cap, and as much as that would improve our top 6 and shed salary, it leaves a big hole to fill on defense.

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06-21-2010, 01:26 PM
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I also think he is a little overrated but imagine how much space this guy would create on the ice,a type of player this team needs.Perfect IMO on a line with Pleks and Cammalleri
Exactly what I think too, we need that kind of player to create havoc in front of the net, while our small skilled players can work their magic... his worth would be more than the points he'd put.

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Exactly what I think too, we need that kind of player to create havoc in front of the net, while our small skilled players can work their magic... his worth would be more than the points he'd put.
It would be like adding another Markov to the team in that he brings a huge piece of the winning formula to the table.

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Exactly what I think too, we need that kind of player to create havoc in front of the net, while our small skilled players can work their magic... his worth would be more than the points he'd put.
True, but we can get a Colby Armstrong for just a contract, while Byfuglien will cost a 1st and a pretty good prospect.

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We wouldn't pick up Sharp to play him at 3rd line center. He'd be playing on the right wing on the top 2 lines.
or we'd be packing Pleks' bags.

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Buff with Gomer and Giant would be orgasmic.
Oh ya, he would be the perfect complimentary player for those 2.

Imagine a top 6 of

Byfuglien-Gomez-Gionta
Cammalleri-Eller-Penner

Absolutely beautiful and perfect top 6.

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True, but we can get a Colby Armstrong for just a contract, while Byfuglien will cost a 1st and a pretty good prospect.
If Colby Armstrong was Byfuglien, we wouldn't be having this discussion

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If Colby Armstrong was Byfuglien, we wouldn't be having this discussion
He isn't...but he's not far off. Yes he isn't 250lbs but he's a better all around player and provides about the same offense.

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or we'd be packing Pleks' bags.
Why trade for Sharp to come replace Plekanec just to save about 1 mil in cap hit. Sharp would cost LeBlanc and a 2nd or 1st.

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His value is at its peak at this moment. Now is not the time to be trading for him..

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