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06-22-2010, 11:16 AM
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i dont get it

its not the point of paying him 550K, but we are tight up against the CAP for a guy who cant keep up in the NHL and does not bring anything to the table in terms of physical play. Why not just bring up come of the younger kids at this point? Or at least wait till after July 1 and see if you can get a similar player at the same price, but younger and more effective.
This signing reeks of "we need french players"

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1 way 550k.

He deserves it.

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06-22-2010, 11:18 AM
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Asham wont sign for 500 K or for a 4th line role.

Darche may not be a cranker of hits, but he's got soft hands for a 4th liner (well, as fourth liners go) put up some decent points (10 points in 29 games is NOT bad) and pays the price in front of the net when he is playing well.

Doesnt complain about ice time, and chips in from time to time. for 500 K, the investment was well worth it.

Welcome back Darche, I for one am happy you came back

We had a tough guy play 29 games at 3 times the salary, he got 2 sog, and had an unwritten code that superceded the true unwritten code. Scored a goal and then was waived (rightfully).

We need the RIGHT tough guy on the bottom line, IMO it's Ryan White. White plays C/RW. He could use some of Darche's offensive skills to post some decent points next year.

A consistent 20-30 point 4th line would be allright, esp. when secondary scoring was such a contentious issue in Montreal this year.

Bottom line, Darche was not the problem, he was part of a solution, so... welcome back Mathieu!!! Keep it up
No. But with a roster spot taken by Darche, I doubt Gauthier will go after him now. Pyatt is pretty much the coach's pet, White is NHL-ready, Moen is under-contract and Lapierre will likely stay. We have one spot for a centerman IF Plekanec doesn't come back. If he does, it'll be Eller. Oh, and Sergei Kostitsyn still is part of the Montreal Canadiens... at least, formally.

Great! I can't wait to see our bottom-6 forecheck hard and annoy the hell out of the opponent's d-core with the likes of Sergei Kostitsyn, Tommy Pyatt and Mathieu Darche! They better be ready!

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06-22-2010, 11:19 AM
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worse comes to worse, we put him on waivers! :O ....shocking isn't it?
If he goes through, we still have his 500k on the salary cap...

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Meh, hopefully our team ends up being good enough that he starts the year with the Dogs.

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06-22-2010, 11:19 AM
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You guys are all ****ing retarded lol. 550k! we won't be paying anyone less whose in the NHL... we got one of the cheapest players in the league. Oh no our salary cap took a hit!

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06-22-2010, 11:20 AM
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http://www.nhl.com/ice/page.htm?id=26366

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What is the new minimum NHL player salary?

The minimum NHL player salary in 2005-06 and 2006-07 will be $450,000; $475,000 in 2007-08 and 2008-09; $500,000 in 2009-10 and 2010-11, and $525,000 in 2011-12 (to the extent the CBA is extended by the Union).

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He would be a good roomate for Lars Eller. Hes a good Veteran and apparantly he roomed with SK when they were in Hamilton(or something like that)

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You guys are all ****ing retarded lol. 550k! we won't be paying anyone less whose in the NHL... we got one of the cheapest players in the league. Oh no our salary cap took a hit!
he's making 50k over the minimum ?!@

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You guys are all ****ing retarded lol. 550k! we won't be paying anyone less whose in the NHL... we got one of the cheapest players in the league. Oh no our salary cap took a hit!
In a situation like the one we are right now, we should worry about fitting guys like Plekanec, and potentially a replacement for Andrei Kostitsyn in, and then, after, worry about depth guys and such assets.

I'm not crying about this move. I'm just disappointed to see the management has faith in this guy, and I'm disappointed to know we might see him on the top-6 once again this year when Jacques Martin glitches.

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No. But with a roster spot taken by Darche, I doubt Gauthier will go after him now. Pyatt is pretty much the coach's pet, White is NHL-ready, Moen is under-contract and Lapierre will likely stay. We have one spot for a centerman IF Plekanec doesn't come back. If he does, it'll be Eller. Oh, and Sergei Kostitsyn still is part of the Montreal Canadiens... at least, formally.

Great! I can't wait to see our bottom-6 forecheck hard and annoy the hell out of the opponent's d-core with the likes of Sergei Kostitsyn, Tommy Pyatt and Mathieu Darche! They better be ready!
You've been ragging on Pyatt all throughout this thread... did you not see his playoff performance? How can you call him a scrub?? Darche is a 13th forward... guess how many normally dress in a lineup.... ooooohhhh now you get it.

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06-22-2010, 11:22 AM
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What I hate is not the terms nor the salary. It's the "one-way contract" part.

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This is bad news ... it means Plekanec is gone

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Darche brings nothing in particular to this team. There are guys out there that are just as good as hockey players, but who also bring a physical dimension to a team.
Playing for 550K as the 13th forward ? Sure, you will have a lot of quality UFA knocking on Gauthier's door to apply for the job.

I think that Darche has a great attitude, is a good role model for the young players and is already "accepted by his teammates".

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06-22-2010, 11:23 AM
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Gauthier never hinted that he wouldn't make any move. He said there were a couple of "voids" he wanted to fill.

I don't expect a lot of moves.
I certainly don't expect the management to be content with the last playoffs run, and keep their feet static neither.

This team has a good core, but we need a much better supporting cast.

I know you're in love with Andrei Kostitsyn, but it's been proven that no team can win with such a bum as part of their core.

Darche brings nothing in particular to this team. There are guys out there that are just as good as hockey players, but who also bring a physical dimension to a team.
Like me and others have said Darche bring alot of thing for a 13th forward we need these kind of player in our team. I was expecting him to be sign so I'm not happy or mad. Good dept move for a team in MTL.

And the AK part make me LOL, you will see if they trade him that I'm not in love with him. (I'm a fan of underdog and he's one since we draft him)And the rest of your sentence it's just your opinion not a proven stat. Organization that have succes are the one who keep their young players and go forward with them.

we are thin in dept at offense so I expect not alot of moves
we are thin in dept at D so I expect not alot moves
We had 2 number one goalie so Halak was trade

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You've been ragging on Pyatt all throughout this thread... did you not see his playoff performance? How can you call him a scrub?? Darche is a 13th forward... guess how many normally dress in a lineup.... ooooohhhh now you get it.
Pyatt has great abilities. I'm just calling him what he is: certainly not a physical forward.

If you actually believe our bottom-6 is physical enough to actually be useful in the near future, you're the one having an issue, not me.

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This signing reeks of "we need french players"
I knew that it was only a matter of time..

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06-22-2010, 11:28 AM
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Like me and others have said Darche bring alot of thing for a 13th forward we need these kind of player in our team. I was expecting him to be sign so I'm not happy or mad. Good dept move for a team in MTL.

And the AK part make me LOL, you will see if they trade him that I'm not in love with him. And the rest of your sentence it's just your opinion not a proven stat. Organization that have succes are the one who keep their young players and go forward with them.

we are thin in dept at offense so I expect not alot of moves
we are thin in dept at D so I expect not alot moves
We had 2 number one goalie so Halak was trade
Expect what you want, I'll say what I want. If we go back with last year's lineup, minus Halak, we're not making it to the playoffs.

D-men is not an issue. Goalies are not anymore. Offense definitely is. This team finished freaking 30th for ES scoring last season, and you actually expect us to have a legit chance with that offense, even if we might lose Plekanec?

I'm not an alarmist. I just don't like the way the organization gives a guy like Darche a spot. I'd rather a guy like Bergeron, who can act both as a forward or a d-man, or a physical player you can plug on a 4th line to shake things up. Not a guy like Darche.

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Pyatt has great abilities. I'm just calling him what he is: certainly not a physical forward.

If you actually believe our bottom-6 is physical enough to actually be useful in the near future, you're the one having an issue, not me.
Pyatt may not be physical, but he doesn't shy away, and he definitely will play an integral part of our bottom 6. He is not the issue. Is Sami Pahlsson considered a physical guy? sometimes, especially in our system, speed and defensive awareness conquer physical play. We do need a balance, but Pyatt is key to the future of our bottom 6.

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What I hate is not the terms nor the salary. It's the "one-way contract" part.
13th forward. LAWLZ.

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Uhm... well...

pretty much everything he does on the ice...
He doesn't do anything, does that mean you like him?

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06-22-2010, 11:30 AM
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Pyatt may not be physical, but he doesn't shy away, and he definitely will play an integral part of our bottom 6. He is not the issue. Is Sami Pahlsson considered a physical guy? sometimes, especially in our system, speed and defensive awareness conquer physical play. We do need a balance, but Pyatt is key to the future of our bottom 6.
He might be, Darche certainly ain't.

Like I said, you use a guy like Bergeron (versatile PP specialist), or an enforcer as your 13th forward. Not a guy like Darche, who brings nothing of value.

We need a balance. But what we lack now is some physical forwards. Not guys like Darche.

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Wow, already 4 pages of people complaining about the signing of a 13th forward/4 liner.
The guy make the league minimum for Christ sake, he is a good vet and don't whine every day about is ice time.
I really love the signing and worst come to worst, you can send him to another team for future consideration any day of the week.

Oh and the guy have 5 goal and 10 pts in 29 games, which is not bad at all for a 4th liner...

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What I hate is not the terms nor the salary. It's the "one-way contract" part.
Who cares if it is a one way contract? If he makes the team great, if he is sent to the minors, the salary is off the cap....don't get the problem.

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Expect what you want, I'll say what I want. If we go back with last year's lineup, minus Halak, we're not making it to the playoffs.

D-men is not an issue. Goalies are not anymore. Offense definitely is. This team finished freaking 30th for ES scoring last season, and you actually expect us to have a legit chance with that offense, even if we might lose Plekanec?

I'm not an alarmist. I just don't like the way the organization gives a guy like Darche a spot. I'd rather a guy like Bergeron, who can act both as a forward or a d-man, or a physical player you can plug on a 4th line to shake things up. Not a guy like Darche.
well you miss my point.

you cannot trade forward and expect to have better forward just because you want them. Even if you trade both Kostitsyns for draft pick. You have have very slim chance to land a guy like Frolov here just because you want him. Frolov have alot of other options and better one with more money for him.

And we finished 30th for ES scoring, good that only prove my point tht we need to kept our dept because last year we didn't score because our top forward were hurt and we had no one to replace them.

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