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06-14-2010, 12:51 PM
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Ok.. what IF Luongo has a season ending injury in early January. At that point the canucks are in 9th-10th position and barely in the playoff picture... Schneider comes in and:
- Wins us the president trophey
- Wins the Vezina for him self
- Wins the Calder
- Then wins us a CUP
- Wins the Conn smythe


Just being the devils advocate.. and also curious to what peoples answers are.
Or you have just got into Donald S. Cherry's supply of wobbly pop.

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06-14-2010, 03:19 PM
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This is absurdly speculative.

Roberto Luongo, love him or hate him, has the best career save percentage of all active goalies in the NHL and is second only to Hasek on the all time list. He is a rare and remarkable talent.

Cory Schneider is a very good AHL goalie with 10 NHL games under his belt.

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06-14-2010, 03:39 PM
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What if Luongo pulls a Luongo? Do we trade him while his stock is high!?!?! (sarcasm emoticon)

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06-14-2010, 03:48 PM
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This is absurdly speculative.

Roberto Luongo, love him or hate him, has the best career save percentage of all active goalies in the NHL and is second only to Hasek on the all time list. He is a rare and remarkable talent.

Cory Schneider is a very good AHL goalie with 10 NHL games under his belt.
Thats actually an interesting stat.
Who's the next highest active goalie?

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06-14-2010, 04:00 PM
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Thats actually an interesting stat.
Who's the next highest active goalie?
Tim Thomas, .9177 career.

http://www.hockey-reference.com/leaders/

Pretty interesting stuff on there. For example, best playoff career numbers belong to..... Patrick Lalime at.9264. Brodeur and Luongo are effectively tied at #4 and #5.

Also interesting to note that Luongo's Sv% in the playoffs and regular season over his career is essentially the same, where players like Lalime have HUGE jumps between very average regular season play and stellar post-season numbers.

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06-14-2010, 04:05 PM
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Thats actually an interesting stat.
Who's the next highest active goalie?
He's essentially tied with Lundqvist and Tim Thomas.

Not really accurate to say he has the highest save percentage.. but the highest of all goalies that have started at least 200 games. Which would exclude Rask, Howard, Halak, and Hiller.

You have to think that it'll be their turn to have a few stinker seasons coming ahead. The main point is that $5.3m is well worth it if you can get above average to elite goaltending every year. Luongo may not be God, but he's pretty darn good when compared to the rest of the field.

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06-14-2010, 04:19 PM
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Too bad that website doesnt normalize save percentage year by year.
The two best playoff goalies I've ever had the pleasure to watch are much lower than I expected.

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06-14-2010, 04:20 PM
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What if Rask pulls a Raycroft?

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06-14-2010, 04:37 PM
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Tim Thomas, .9177 career.

http://www.hockey-reference.com/leaders/

Pretty interesting stuff on there. For example, best playoff career numbers belong to..... Patrick Lalime at.9264. Brodeur and Luongo are effectively tied at #4 and #5..
They have Kolzig as #1.

http://www.hockey-reference.com/lead..._career_p.html

Luongo is #9, ever so slightly ahead of Roy.

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06-14-2010, 04:50 PM
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He won't get enough starts to get on any kind of hot streak. If he does show that he deserves to be an NHL starter somewhere, I'm sure other GM's would be kicking the tires at the deadline. I think Gillis will sign another 'project goalie' to play on the Moose and be available for call-ups if necessary, while Schneider will be the back-up. If he plays poorly, he'll be back down with the Moose, and the other goalie will be up to back up. If he does well, he'll likely get traded.

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06-14-2010, 08:06 PM
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They have Kolzig as #1.

http://www.hockey-reference.com/lead..._career_p.html

Luongo is #9, ever so slightly ahead of Roy.
that's odd.

when I click on the link for career save% from the main page link provided by neksys I get a different list, than when I click on the direct link you've posted?

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Look at Carey Price, one good season doesnt make you a good goalie. It'd be much better to trade Schnieder as we'd get a decent return. With Luongo, you already know he'll be in the top 10 every year.
What about the past 2 years?

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06-14-2010, 10:14 PM
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Luongo is better than Rask. I don't understand your question.

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06-14-2010, 10:26 PM
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Luongo is better than Rask. I don't understand your question.
He means what if the backup plays better than the starter (and the backup becomes the starter).

Thomas was the starter at the beginning of the season, and Rask was the backup. Rask played better, and became the starter.

What if Schneider played better than Luongo and became the starter?

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He means what if the backup plays better than the starter (and the backup becomes the starter).

Thomas was the starter at the beginning of the season, and Rask was the backup. Rask played better, and became the starter.

What if Schneider played better than Luongo and became the starter?
I understood.. Maybe I wasn't as clever as I planned Luongo is a top 5 goaltender in the league. If Schnieder becomes better than Luongo, we'll more than likely be able to acquire a number 1 defense men.

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that's odd.

when I click on the link for career save% from the main page link provided by neksys I get a different list, than when I click on the direct link you've posted?
I think that link is to the overall career stats where I was linking to the stats of active goaltenders.

For the record, Dan Cloutier's numbers put him at 62nd all time in career playoff save percentage with a sparkling .8718.

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I think that link is to the overall career stats where I was linking to the stats of active goaltenders.

For the record, Dan Cloutier's numbers put him at 62nd all time in career playoff save percentage with a sparkling .8718.
And IIRC Cloutier sits dead last in save percentage amongst goalies with 10 or more post-season starts in NHL history.

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The Canucks wont give orange goalie child the opportunity to pull a ''Rask'' no matter what happens..

It's unfortunate, but it's Luongo or bust.

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