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Originally Posted by Sh0otnSc0re
Heh, agrudez always defense Carle til his face is blue. But he bashes our best offensive forward at even strength all the time.
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I don't bash Richards, ever, in fact I made a thread in the middle of the Boston series to try and get everyone off of his back because I was tired of our best player getting ragged on all season long while he left everything he had on the ice.
I suppose you meant Carter; however, but to that I must also question how I bash him constantly? Carter is obviously our most talented offensive forward, but I personally do not like his game and think that the game he plays does not foster chemistry and cohesion with his linemates (constantly shooting, forcing plays rather than letting them organically be created, shying from board play, etc.).
That being said, I would love to have him on the team and to give him nothing but bangers and crashers on his line (I think a Hartnell-Carter-Carillo/Asham line would be his best fit) and let him rip and hope he at least hits the goalie so that the other two can crash the net; however, he IS going to make 7M in his next contract unless it is a lifetime contract to circumvent the cap. That type of cap hit IS going to cost us space for other positions of more prominent need as well as make it very hard to sign our other talented young players.
The question I constantly ask is whether or not you would trade Carter for Giroux+JVR because in 2 years after all 3 have their new contracts JVR is going to make 3M, Giroux is going to make 4M and Carter is going to make 7M. You must also take into consideration that we probably won't have the resources to pay all three of them because dumping Briere is a pipe dream, not to mention that I would sure love to go get a goalie for once...
Trading Carter gives the team many more options to allocate resources to much more needed positions (goalie, wingers, for those who want a checking third line - Malhotra), I won't list them all because I spent a good deal of time posting my thoughts earlier in this thread, a post you obviously didn't fully read if you formulated the opinion that I bash Carter rather than that I look at the situation objectionably and through a shade of lens that wants to see the team as a whole progress rather than an individual man crush (and yes, if I thought it made the team better I would advocate trading my own man crush, Carle)
As far as Carle goes, the way some of you post you would probably hate having Mike Green, Dan Boyle or Sergei Gonchar on this team as well. Defensemen that specialize on one side of the puck seem to be really underrated in Philadelphia, no one liked Pitkanen who specialized in offense and lacked defensively, no one like Bundy who specialized in defense and lacked offensively, it is quite the epidemic, imo.
Before the season started I said that if Carle was paired with Pronger he would have a breakout season, not because Pronger is a god that makes everyone around him better (although he actually does), but because Carle is an offensive defensemen that needs someone defensively stronger than Coburn the pylon to back him up when he jumps into the play. Look at some of our biggest must win games this season....
game 82 against NYR, Carle ties the game 1-1 in the 3rd to put it into OT where we eventually win
game 4 against BOS, Carle makes a sick pass right to Gagne's tape for the OT winner
game 5 against Bos, Carle ties the Flyers record for assists in one game by a defenseman (5 I think?)
game 3 against Chi, Carle makes a sick pass right to Giroux's tape for the OT winner
Sure, Carle isn't the best defensive defenseman on the Flyers, news flash.... HE ISN'T SUPPOSED TO BE!!!! Offensive defensemen have their roles on a team, and Matt did a HELL of a job fulfilling his this season... for 1M less than he would command on the open market if he were a FA this year, btw.
