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06-24-2010, 09:52 AM
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Brashear to the KHL

Look for old man Brash to head t the KHL my source told me last night. Not sure how this effects the cap for the Rangers but at least he would be out of the system and not blocking a AHL'er .

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06-24-2010, 09:53 AM
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it'd be a breach of contract and he'd be off the books!

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06-24-2010, 09:59 AM
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Yeah, pretty much. Though he's about 20-30 years to late to be going over and punching Russians

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There are a couple of teams of there stock piling goons and for some reason there is interest in him. Are we legally allowed to loan him there and get him off the books?

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If true, this would be great. What a mistake of a signing.

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technically hes suspended and its a breach of contract therefore not counting towards the cap. he can't come back to the nhl of course but he's done and he knows it. he wanted to go to russia anyway to finish his career. he'll probably get more than 1.4 there as it is.

this would be huge

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This would be huge for the Rangers. His contract would be terminated and the 1.4 million would be off the cap

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06-24-2010, 10:17 AM
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I was someone who didn't like the terms of the deal last year but thought big Don would bring more to the table then he ended up.

Some things don't work out and this clearly is one of them.

We can't have him count against the cap this year. Any means necessary to make that possible. I think Sather knows this though.

Shelley/Byers/Prust/Avery/Dubi we're good.

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no you can't loan him there thats not gonna get him off the books. it has to be an understood by the team and brashear that he's technincally suspended. hes leaving on his own. the rangers would have the right to file a grievance but wouldn't. that would make it so that his cap hit came off the books.

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1.4 + an extra 2 or whatever from the 5% increase and thats a decent player that can be brought in through trade or smart signing.

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Read the clause again. Regardless of where he plays or doesn't play. It counts. Malakhov stopped playing and the Devils were on the hook. He was suspended when he refused the AHL demotion. The NHL and KHL have an agreement where they would honor each others contracts.

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Read the clause again. Regardless of where he plays or doesn't play. It counts. Malakhov stopped playing and the Devils were on the hook. He was suspended when he refused the AHL demotion. The NHL and KHL have an agreement where they would honor each others contracts.
Damn, thats ridiculous. Nice job Slats.

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Why would they want him over there?

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06-24-2010, 10:39 AM
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Playing in Russia doesn't take him off the cap. Only way he is off the cap is if he is traded within the NHL.

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how did the caps clear nylander

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06-24-2010, 10:50 AM
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how did the caps clear nylander
Nylander wasn't over 35 when he signed the deal with WSH. Brashear going to Russia actually screws the Rangers unless they can trade his rights as a paper move.

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i don't think that's accurate. if he walks out on the team and flees for the khl the cap hit does not count. detroit did not get hit with hudlers cap hit while he was in russia.

he can walk out on the team and breach his contract. rangers could contest and then the khl would not be allowed to sign him however if they do not contest he'd be free to sign there but he still breached his contract.

malakhov refused a demotion to the ahl because he was injured. lou was also trying to get around the rules then too. he forced the guy into retirement and still tried to get the cap hit not to work against them.

this is totally different.

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i don't think that's accurate. if he walks out on the team and flees for the khl the cap hit does not count. detroit did not get hit with hudlers cap hit while he was in russia.

he can walk out on the team and breach his contract. rangers could contest and then the khl would not be allowed to sign him however if they do not contest he'd be free to sign there but he still breached his contract.

malakhov refused a demotion to the ahl because he was injured. lou was also trying to get around the rules then too. he forced the guy into retirement and still tried to get the cap hit not to work against them.

this is totally different.
The problem is that he is over 35, it says in the CBA that he counts against the cap in any case unless he is on LTIR. So I'd say even if he goes to Russia with breach of contract he'd still count. It would of course make trading him to a low cap team easier since he doesn't have to be paid.

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im almost positive a suspended player falls into the LTIR category. no matter what age he is.

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06-24-2010, 11:34 AM
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this is from nhlscap.com

Players suspended by either the team or the NHL will not count for the duration of the suspension as long as the player is not receiving his salary;

there is no exception for over 35 players its all players suspended

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It would of course make trading him to a low cap team easier since he doesn't have to be paid.
And that's the key element. If trying the trade angle, the Rangers have the ability to trade a contract to a team where they don't need to pay a dime for the cap hit.

We can either help a team make the floor, or trade for any player that a team had already earmarked for waiving (Tom Preissing, Brendan Witt, etc).

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and there's a couple ways of doing this. rangers could suspend him for derogatory or negative comments publicly toward the organization which he did do. this would probably be overturned if brashear contested but if the agreement is in the khl he'll go without contesting.

OR he could flee to the khl. the rangers would suspend him and then not contest with the iihf and he'd be free to sign with the khl. this might be tricky though because the league may force them into agreeing to a loan. they may not. it may just be an iihf thing.

that's up to the lawyers but there are def ways to get him to russia as an over 35 and not have it count against the cap especially if the player wants to go there anyway for more money and the team wants him gone

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I'll wait till a real source before getting excited.

This would be good if this happens with getting Kovy on the team.

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