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06-25-2010, 12:35 PM
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Scott Cullen has us taking Etem

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06-25-2010, 12:39 PM
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I was just reading those comments too and every time I do I'm astounded at some of them...

The Predators drafted great depth at the forward position last summer in particular and our system is very well-rounded...we miss one key area though...dynamic scorers...

Unfortunately, most do not realize the depth and range of talents from our previous draft classes that are being brought along and growing into Nashville Predators right now...I think there is a legitimate disconnect with the majority of our fan base that is so used to the NFL and NBA drafts where you immediately see these players on your roster as opposed to the NHL draft where you are making selections for players to crack your roster 3-4 years down the road...
My concern, and I think I've heard a few others say this, is that we're basically becoming a farm team for the rest of the NHL in terms of defenders. We have all these high-end prospects, they rarely, if ever, get dealt...then they reach 26 or 27, and we can justify trading them because we have "young guys ready to step in." Now, with rumors surfacing that Hamhuis wants(and is apparently close to receiving) 5 million a year from the Flyers...I understand he isn't worth that. My concern is that in a couple of years, Blum will be entrenched, Ellis will be getting there...and suddenly we're seeing the negotiating rights to Shea Weber or Ryan Suter dealt.

I also disagree that, even after a forward-centric draft last year, that we have any real depth in the cupboard there. In terms of top six talent, Taylor Beck looks like he could be a good pick, though I've been told that he still has a lot to address if he's ever going to translate into the NHL. Budish has question marks after a less than impressive freshman season. Bourque should be a decent 3\4 liner. Latta is more or less a dime a dozen prospect. The wildcard is Geoffrion...I am somewhat reserved in my expectations of his scoring at the NHL. If I had to predict, I see him as a Vernon Fiddler\Manny Malhotra type player...defensive specialist that can score 12-15 goals.

There are enough guys in this draft that will be available between 15 and 20(if we wanted to trade up) that would likely become our top forward prospect. To ignore that to pipe in another defenseman...with Weber and Suter HOPEFULLY in the long term vision, and Blum, Ellis, COR, Josi, etc all on the horizon in the next 2-4 years...I don't like the message that sends.

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That would be awesome...seeing him fall to us more and more in the past couple days. Don't know why, but I'd love for it to happen...

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06-25-2010, 12:41 PM
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From what I read yesterday, Etem has been knocking everyone dead in the interviews. His skill and goalscoring ability are attractive to everyone, but I think he's a slam dunk "Predators player," and I'd love to see us trade up to 15 or so to make sure we get him.

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06-25-2010, 12:51 PM
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BTN, I don't know why the system isn't letting me quote you...must be a glitch...

But, I agree that selecting a defenseman tonight at 18th would be a MAJOR public relations nightmare for the team as you pointed out because it would be a continued slap in the face for the fans who were chanting "Schroeder" last year at the draft party to hear "Ellis" called...

That being said, I don't think you can necessarily bow to the will of the fans on a decision like this, but selecting a defenseman or a goalie tonight is the worst case scenario for the public relations department unless we trade back to do so...which still wouldn't be that good...

As for the whole, "farm team" concept...I understand that, but am sick of hearing about it too. Realize that this franchise has been looking since it's inception for a guy that they drafted and developed to blossom into "star" or "superstar" status playing right here in Nashville before they opened up the checkbook. Weber and Suter are those two guys and will be the first Predator players to receive contracts with a cap hit of greater than $4.5 million. Geoffrion will be definitely run out there as a face of the franchise in the next couple years (and I think he has top-nine 18-25 goal potential depending on where he is in the lineup), but Shea Weber and Ryan Suter are our star players and will be retained...these are the guys you build your franchise around...

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06-25-2010, 12:52 PM
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Forecaster has us taking Tinordi

Malloy has us taking Dylan McIlrath

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06-25-2010, 01:02 PM
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As does Glenngineer.

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As does Glenngineer.
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After reading up on McIlrath I'd prefer him over Tinordi if we go D. He'd be the opposite of what we normally draft, big, mean and nasty.

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06-25-2010, 01:27 PM
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Kabanov 4TW!

If he falls to the fifth round, maybe, but not tonight. Kabanov has serious maturity problems.

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06-25-2010, 01:35 PM
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If he falls to the fifth round, maybe, but not tonight. Kabanov has serious maturity problems.
If you heard Paul Fenton's reaction to Jeremy's mention of his name on the NHL Draft Preview 303:30 podcast I think Kabanov would have to fall to the 8th round at a minimum for us to select him...he is not on our draft board...nor is there an 8th round to the draft anymore...

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06-25-2010, 02:04 PM
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After reading up on McIlrath I'd prefer him over Tinordi if we go D. He'd be the opposite of what we normally draft, big, mean and nasty.
I agree, sounds like a great hockey player to me...

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06-25-2010, 02:11 PM
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After reading up on McIlrath I'd prefer him over Tinordi if we go D. He'd be the opposite of what we normally draft, big, mean and nasty.
We already have McIlrath on the team, his name is Wade Belak.


I really want Etem. He is my favorite prospect right now.

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06-25-2010, 04:17 PM
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Well, I gathered my international scouting staff this morning, reviewed notes, watched video, went over combine and interview results and here is the game plan (disclaimer- you may not be shocked to learn I have no real staff, expertise, experience or talent but it allows me, like most hfboard "talent scouts" to be much more certain and decisive in my selections. I also like the custom of using "we" in posts to make it seem like I have a staff, or friends, or at least a crown from a small european monarchy, so roll with it. For research, I did read for a while on the internet and once stayed at a holiday inn):

Option #1 Trade up

Fans love to trade up, so, why not. In this case if Brett Connolly falls past #3, we are swapping our 1st rounder and some other good stuff to move up and pick him. Hips are for hula dancing and Hamhuis hip-checks... otherwise over-rated in hockey. We put him in our top 6 this year rather than giving those hips a chance to get stiff again.

Option #2 Trade down

Fans love to ***** so let's either pick a tiny d-man or trade down. Wait, we did the tiny d-man last year.... let's move! In this case, we package the pick and a basket of goodies to get two second round picks (or a late 1st and a 3rd) and take two of the following:

Johan Larsson- a consummate two-way player with unexpected offensive flair emerging.

Charlie Coyle- combine star and cousin of Tony Amonte, he's headed to BU after dominating lower level competition..... sounds a bit like Colin Wilson and we like Wilson.

A defenseman!!! My scouts like Stephen Johns-- he made teammate Jon Merrill look like a 1st round pick for US U-18. Going to Notre Dame, which we always like. Same size as Shea Weber which we like even better. Another combine star.

If not Johns then we go with Matt McKenzie, who's defensive defenseman approach makes Johns look like a Ryan Ellis playmaker. Hopefully, he falls to our 3rd round pick.

Christian Thomas- a smaller version of Stevie Sullivan, this offensive dynamo comes in at, like, 5'1" 114lbs..... but he can score!

Joey Hishon- a bigger version of Thomas perhaps, he has played with a broken foot, sports hernia, glass eye, and several cysts... Like the Monty Python character, he will keep fighting even if he loses both arms and both legs. My scouts used the phrase "high compete level" 14 times... I made them stop, finally, since it's such a stupid phrase.

Option #3 Keep the pick!

For anyone still reading, we love Etem, very much like Bjugstad (stop saying he's like Budish...), hate Howden, love/hate Watson, and hate all defensemen.

If we had to go "off the board" (which we never do because I'm a sheep in sheep's clothing), we pick fast-rising Beau Bennett who, like Jon Blum, is a slick skating southern cali boy that (in this case, briefly) went to BC to get on our radar. Unlike Blum, he's a forward with real offensive upside.

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06-25-2010, 04:35 PM
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So it's either Tinordi, Merrill, Pysyk, or Mcilrath on Polie's draft board and then we'll just trade Suter and Weber for a couple of 4th round pick when they hit UFA. Same ole same ole go 0 for 900000 on the PP and win games 1-0 in a shootout, play boring games, and lose in the Playoffs. Polie could finally Draft a DAMN FORWARD THAT CAN SCORE.

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So it's either Tinordi, Merrill, Pysyk, or Mcilrath on Polie's draft board and then we'll just trade Suter and Weber for a couple of 4th round pick when they hit UFA. Same ole same ole go 0 for 900000 on the PP and win games 1-0 in a shootout, play boring games, and lose in the Playoffs. Polie could finally Draft a DAMN FORWARD THAT CAN SCORE.
we actually did, who ****ing knew that he'd be a flight risk at the time ?

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we actually did, who ****ing knew that he'd be a flight risk at the time ?
So because he left for 12mil+ a season we should never draft another again? Hell Polie would draft Fowler this year if he was to have the 1st pick.

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06-25-2010, 04:55 PM
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So it's either Tinordi, Merrill, Pysyk, or Mcilrath on Polie's draft board and then we'll just trade Suter and Weber for a couple of 4th round pick when they hit UFA. Same ole same ole go 0 for 900000 on the PP and win games 1-0 in a shootout, play boring games, and lose in the Playoffs. Polie could finally Draft a DAMN FORWARD THAT CAN SCORE.
Love the optimism...

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As much as I've hated seeing Blum and Ellis picked... I really wouldn't mind seeing us grab Tinordi. Would be a big, defensive d-man that the team never seems to have.

Etem would be good too. I have a feeling that whoever we take won't be a downer for me. This summer i'm much more interested in see which trade/ufa we make to strengthen our scoring lines.

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06-25-2010, 06:13 PM
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Streaming online link for those without TV coverage...

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Bettman sounds a bit under the weather...

Surprised to hear Bettman pretty much limit the Oilers to "Taylor or Tyler"...

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Taylor Hall goes first to Edmonton...word is that Edmonton is trying hard to get the No. 2 overall pick too...

Boston is on the clock...will they pick???

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Well, there goes Hall. I was kinda hoping he fell.

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