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06-25-2010, 02:39 PM
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would anyone be opposed to Kurtis Foster?

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06-25-2010, 02:41 PM
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Matter of opinion. imo he is not awful.

He is a dsive dmen, size speed and he is mean. He gets his job done and log big minutes. After Pronger Flyers are very soft on blue line.
Look at the Caps d-men though.

Schultz = +50
Green = +39
Poti = +26
Erskine = +16
Carlson = +11 (in 22 games)

Morrisonn = +8, how do you finish +8 on an ES powerhouse like the Capitals?

Then you look at their rating on behindthenet which combines GAON/60, GAOFF/60, GFON/60, and GFOFF/60.

Schultz: 1.81
Green: 1.36
Poti: .35
Erskine: -.10
Morrisonn: -1.68

That number for Morrisson is 3rd worst in the league for D-man who played more than 50 games and he had a -.001 QUALCOMP and a .22 QUALTEAM.

That is an absolutely freaking BRUTAL season by any measure.

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06-25-2010, 02:48 PM
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Yeah you spelled it right, but he's awful.

I'd take Leopold as a 5.
Leopold is a liability. Having had to watch him play for the home team for 2 separate stints, we will not be happy with him. He's soooffftttt.

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06-25-2010, 02:51 PM
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The damn Flyers text they just sent got me all excited thinking they finally got him to sign or traded his rights. Played me the **** out.

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06-25-2010, 02:53 PM
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The damn Flyers text they just sent got me all excited thinking they finally got him to sign or traded his rights. Played me the **** out.
You get texts? I just get the emails.

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06-25-2010, 02:57 PM
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Look at the Caps d-men though.

Schultz = +50
Green = +39
Poti = +26
Erskine = +16
Carlson = +11 (in 22 games)

Morrisonn = +8, how do you finish +8 on an ES powerhouse like the Capitals?

Then you look at their rating on behindthenet which combines GAON/60, GAOFF/60, GFON/60, and GFOFF/60.

Schultz: 1.81
Green: 1.36
Poti: .35
Erskine: -.10
Morrisonn: -1.68

That number for Morrisson is 3rd worst in the league for D-man who played more than 50 games and he had a -.001 QUALCOMP and a .22 QUALTEAM.

That is an absolutely freaking BRUTAL season by any measure.
I care less about his plus minus. Caps are my 2nd favorite team and I watch them a lot and I think Morrisonn would bring a lot to our team. He is solid all around defender from what I saw and he bring would physical play, PK and speed to our line up and often lines up against top lines.

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would anyone be opposed to Kurtis Foster?
He is weak on D. imo

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06-25-2010, 03:03 PM
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would anyone be opposed to Kurtis Foster?
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He is weak on D. imo
Yeah, I thought he was more of a PP specialist.

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06-25-2010, 04:09 PM
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No talks today yet - on Hamhuis

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06-25-2010, 04:19 PM
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I'm not the biggest Nabakov fan, but with the deluded market and possible problems with Hamhuis, I wonder if we would be better off just going for him. When you start talking ~4.5m that sounds like what he might get signed for. I'm not crazy about the guy, but theres no doubt he would be a large upgrade

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06-25-2010, 04:21 PM
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would anyone be opposed to Kurtis Foster?
He's a PP specialist, and I don't think we need another PPQB. If we can't sign Hamhuis, I'd go after Jay McKee or Mark Eaton for the 3rd pairing.

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06-25-2010, 04:27 PM
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I know VAN has a huge crush on him but why couldn't Homer shop him around for rights to other teams that might be willing to pay him his money? VAN is not the only team that wants his services... Homer could get a low pick and tell Gillis that he has an offer on the table and best it if he can.

VAN hears that he's being shopped and realizes that maybe he's not headed to UFA.

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06-25-2010, 04:42 PM
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I won't really be concerned until after the weekend, but this signing should be done by now.


Another asset Holmgren pisses away otherwise.

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06-25-2010, 04:55 PM
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Comcast just reported that it wasn't so much as dollar amount as playing time.

I do not buy it.

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06-25-2010, 04:57 PM
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Comcast just reported that it wasn't so much as dollar amount as playing time.

I do not buy it.
It was Timmah.

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06-25-2010, 05:04 PM
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yea a lot of speculation about having trouble signing hamhuis.

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06-25-2010, 05:19 PM
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Tim P.'s latest, in the last ten minutes:
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Hamhuis update: No progress today ...

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06-25-2010, 05:24 PM
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It was Timmah.
I definitely don't buy it then.

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06-25-2010, 05:25 PM
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Comcast just reported that it wasn't so much as dollar amount as playing time.

I do not buy it.
yeah, that doesn't make much sense... you play well enough, you're earning your minutes.

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06-25-2010, 05:27 PM
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Bob McKenzie saying Ballard is Vancouver bound.

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The Panthers are poised to make another big move as Keith Ballard is said to be as good as gone. Heard last night that St. Louis was very interested in Ballard and Stephen Weiss, although I don't think Weiss is going anywhere.

Ballard is keeping an eye on things as he plays golf in Minnesota. Word is Vancouver is going hard for Ballard. The Canucks have the 25th overall pick tonight.
Read more: http://miamiherald.typepad.com/flapa...#ixzz0ruHCtir5

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06-25-2010, 05:45 PM
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Eklund (I know, I know) is saying Hamhuis could be dealt... This guy is just saying every possibility that could happen and he'll claim he was right after.

He has "reported" 3 different scenarios in the last 3 days, what a ******...

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06-25-2010, 05:47 PM
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Yeah you spelled it right, but he's awful.

I'd take Leopold as a 5.
Problem with Leopold is he's constantly hurt. Many recurring ailments including hernia.
That and he went to University of Minnesota.

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06-25-2010, 05:48 PM
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Eklund (I know, I know) is saying Hamhuis could be dealt... This guy is just saying every possibility that could happen and he'll claim he was right after.

He has "reported" 3 different scenarios in the last 3 days, what a ******...
Bob McKenzie had a few hours ago which could tie into Ballard:

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While Hamhuis's neg rights could be traded again pre-July 1, I have reason to believe it will NOT be to VAN. Not saying VAN has no interest

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06-25-2010, 05:49 PM
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It seems it's more the problem of that he thinks he will be used as the 5th d-man, which is why he won't sign...

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Friday, June 25, 2010
Posted: 6:08 p.m. | Updated: 6:36 p.m.

By Tim Panaccio
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LOS ANGELES -- Talks between the Flyers and Wade Arnott, the agent who represents defenseman Dan Hamhuis, have stalled.

Neither side reported any progress on Friday.

There were various reports saying that the two sides were close to an agreement, but just the opposite is true.

"I'd like to say something but positive, but right now, there's been no progress," Arnott said.

Arnott is believed to be seeking a four-year deal worth at least $16 million. The hangup, sources say, isn’t money or length of contract.

It’s something more basic: how Hamhuis might be used as fifth defenseman, his minutes, etc. For the kind of money the Flyers would have to pay to sign the unrestricted free agent, he’s really a No. 3-4 defenseman.

One report suggested the Flyers would trade his rights to Vancouver if they could not sign him this weekend. That is also false. The Flyers are going to give it another week of negotiations, sources said.

If the club can’t sign Hamhuis before July 1, they’ll deal his rights.

General manager Paul Holmgren declined comment before tonight’s NHL draft.

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06-25-2010, 06:11 PM
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It seems it's more the problem of that he thinks he will be used as the 5th d-man, which is why he won't sign...



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Now THAT doesn't make any sense.

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06-25-2010, 06:16 PM
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It seems it's more the problem of that he thinks he will be used as the 5th d-man, which is why he won't sign...



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gee what GM would deal for his rights? no Gm would do that now would they? That would be foolish so it has been said by many yet this is exactly what will happen if they dont sign him

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