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06-25-2010, 06:12 PM
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Steep price for Ballard.

Depends on what we get for Bieksa.

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If that's the deal, then I hope the guy we want is there at 25, and it doesnt happen.

Very steep, very steep.

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We have the most schizophrenic fanbase in the league.

For 5 minutes Gillis was a savior, now half of you want to put him to the stake.

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I really, really hope that Grabner isn't a part of this trade.

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I'm hoping that we didn't give up Grabner in this, but if we did I won't be too upset as it opens up a key second line spot for a UFA or a guy like Schroeder/Shirokov/Hodgson

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Just saw a profile on Victor Oreskovich, a defenseman on the Florida Panters playing this second NHL game tonight.

Anyway, he was a 2nd rounder for Colorado in 2004, cut from the team at camps in 2004, 2005 and 2006 and so he quits hockey after playing out his final year in Kitchener.

He completely quits playing and doesn't even skate for 18 months.

At some point in the past few months, he decides he wants to play hockey again so he calls up his old coach, Pete DeBoar, who's now with Florida.

DeBoar decides to give him a try-out and then sends him to the AHL (Rochester). After five games in the minors he gets called up.

He's 6'3", 215 and has thrown two huge hits in his four periods of play so far.

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Wow, this is a horrible deal for us.

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I dunno about that.
Why? We have a glut of small, skilled, speedy wingers.

It hurts to lose Grabner because I liked him, but we need Ballard SO MUCH MORE.

Oreskovich looks decent too. 2nd round pick with size.

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Less high on it...not so sure about Oreskovich's upside. He's a big body, but can't find anything on what type of player he is.

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too bad Grabner is involved... but the Canucks finally get a legit top-pairing dman finally, who can play in every situation.

and Victor Oreskovich could be a good pickup as well... big player, right handed right winger - likely replacing Bernier or filling the 4th line, with Hansen moving on to the 3rd... former 2nd rounder by the Avs in 04.

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no grabner please.....

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People are overrating the pick and Grabner. Bernier is a salary dump. We're getting a #2 D and a prospect, how is that not a good deal?

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We have the most schizophrenic fanbase in the league.

For 5 minutes Gillis was a savior, now half of you want to put him to the stake.
Well, the deal changed DRAMATICALLY. You are surprised people's opinions might change?

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I wasnt that happy about the trade before, and now I'm even less happy with the likes of Grabner gone..

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We have the most schizophrenic fanbase in the league.

For 5 minutes Gillis was a savior, now half of you want to put him to the stake.
There are a lot of Grabner fans on this board, always have been. He's overvalued here compared to what he's actually achieved.

I guess it shouldn't be a huge surprise; Grabner was picked 14th overall, and though he hasn't really lived up to his draft position, a lot of fans are going to have a tough time letting it go.

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I'm so conflicted right now.

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ASSETS: Plays a power game and loves to work the boards. Is strong on his skates and a load to move from the front of the net.
FLAWS: Needs to continue rounding out his offensive game, including his quickness and reaction time. Must hit people more often to be make more of an impact.
CAREER POTENTIAL: Big-bodied winger.
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Oreskovich played 50 gms with FLA last season. 2 G 4A. 55th pick in 2004


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Victor Oreskovich
Age: 23
Date of birth: August 15, 1986
Place of birth: Whitby, Ont., Canada
Ht: 6-3 Wt: 215
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NHL Seasons: 1
Drafted by Colorado in 2004 (2/55).
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Victor Oreskovich, RW
6’2, 216 lbs. DOB: Aug. 15, 1986 – Whitby, Ontario
Acquired: 2nd Round, 55th Overall 2004

Victor Oreskovich battled injuries and struggled with his motivation early in the year. After taking a week off in November, he put up 28 goals and 60 points in 62 games, good for third on the team in goal scoring and second on the team in points. Oreskovich saw significant time on the top line and top power-play unit, and produced well when skating on a line with Peter Tsimikalis and Nick Spaling (2007).

Oreskovich continued to use his size, skating ability and shot to his advantage. Being the biggest forward on the team, Oreskovich hassled opposing teams, especially on the power play, by setting up camp at the front of the net or relentlessly doing the dirty work in the corners. He showed throughout the season that he is good one on one, but has trouble finishing from time to time.

Oreskovich has shown signs of being a bit weak mentally, and getting down on himself when things do not go well, but his confidence improved as the season progressed. Oreskovich must avoid the injury bug, as he injured his knee in a collision against London in early March. He is expected back for the second round of the OHL playoffs.

If he can stay healthy and continue to improve his mental toughness, Oreskovich has the size and hockey smarts for a pro future. Too old for juniors next year, he’ll need to turn pro in 2007-08.

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I think Grabner will excel in the SE...damn.

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We have the most schizophrenic fanbase in the league.

For 5 minutes Gillis was a savior, now half of you want to put him to the stake.
It's pretty funny isn't it?

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I was a lot more excited about the deal before Grabner's name was mentioned but the Canucks are in a position to overpay. Look at this like a trade deadline move and it doesn't appear too bad.

Steep price - one I'm okay with.

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But but but... I love Grabner =(

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Wow, this is a horrible deal for us.
It's not a horrible deal. We're just all really high on Grabner.

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I should add, I am still pleased with the deal if this is it as it is. Oreskovich is a big, physical presence who is likely slotted into the bottom six. Ballard immediately improves the defense. It sucks to lose Grabner, but you have to give to get.

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