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06-26-2010, 03:11 PM
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Wow, this guy might not sign a pro contract until 2015

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CSB ranked #40 NA skater - Patrick McNally, D, Milton Academy (HIGH-MA) - headed to Harvard:

Per his high school coach Paul Cannata at Milton:
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"He's a strong skater on the back end, good puck skills and vision, poise almost to a fault with the puck," said Cannata. "He's got a high level of puck comfort. He loves going on offense, loves to create offense, loves to play on his toes. He plays with energy, he's a good kid, a good student."
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"He's a leader through his play. He loves to have the puck, and he has the puck a lot," described Cannata. "He certainly loves to play with the puck. If he doesn't have the puck, he wants to get the puck, and ... it's certainly a strength of his. He's certainly good with the puck and he's going to be around the puck, even as a defenseman.

"Somehow, he's going to be involved in moving the puck up-ice and in all three zones, that puck's going to go through Pat. He also plays with a sense of, 'if I don't have the puck, how can I get the puck back?', more so than your typical stay-at-home, Steady Eddie defenseman. Pat wants the puck."
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"He's obviously a long body. He's a pretty skinny kid at the moment, so I think people will perceive that there's a physical upside that way," said Cannata. "His father is a good-sized guy, a former football player. Patrick's young, and even on the young side of his age group in terms of overall physical development, so there's certainly an upside. He's certainly going to grow and fill out a bit."
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"He's a super kid. I guess I would describe him as affable. He's a cheery kid, he's a friendly kid, he's a positive kid; he's not that defenseman that functions with a snarl, and he doesn't live that way either," praised the coach. "He's a good student, he's a real positive, energetic young man. He's a good lacrosse player. He's athletic, he's academic, he's a good kid socially. There's no question that that all adds to his package or intrigue as well."
http://www.hockeysfuture.com/article...trick_mcnally/

HF had him ranked on its US junior list ahead of a number of players drafted before him - same with CSB. Seems to have the personality traits that Gillis has said he looks at.

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06-26-2010, 03:14 PM
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Gillis on McNally:

"We had this guy ranked in the first round and when he was available in the 4th it was a pretty easy decision. Moreover, whoever I end up picking in the 5th round is a player we ranked as a late first round pick"
It would be awesome if he actually said that.

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Big bodied, smooth skating defensemen with offensive potential. I definitely like the sounds of that. If he's not going to Harvard until 2011-2012, where will he play next season? USHL?

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Gillis on McNally:

"We had this guy ranked in the first round and when he was available in the 4th it was a pretty easy decision. Moreover, whoever I end up picking in the 5th round is a player we ranked as a late first round pick"
Does this not sound strange to anyone else? How does he have such a different draft ranking that someone he takes in the 5th round is rated in the first? Don't you think that other teams would be on to this as well?

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Does this not sound strange to anyone else? How does he have such a different draft ranking that someone he takes in the 5th round is rated in the first? Don't you think that other teams would be on to this as well?
Gillis uses this line at every draft so I take it with a grain of salt.

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Does this not sound strange to anyone else? How does he have such a different draft ranking that someone he takes in the 5th round is rated in the first? Don't you think that other teams would be on to this as well?
Is that an actual quote?

If so, definitely a head scratcher. I like the McNally pick, but having him ranked in the 1st?

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Umm.. I'm pretty sure that "quote" was a joke.

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Sounds like McNally has some potential at least. Whether he was the best choice remains to be seen though obviously.

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Big bodied, smooth skating defensemen with offensive potential. I definitely like the sounds of that. If he's not going to Harvard until 2011-2012, where will he play next season? USHL?
Perhaps.

Ontario junior league (non-CHL) possibly - he could always decide OHL if he wants to forgo the NCAA.

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Is that an actual quote?

If so, definitely a head scratcher. I like the McNally pick, but having him ranked in the 1st?
More of Gillis' inscrutable sayings - must have taken lessons from Scotty Bowman or perhaps Yoda.

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Gillis uses this line at every draft so I take it with a grain of salt.
Truth.

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The last "Patrick" taken with a Canucks first pick in a draft did not work out too well as a prospect but was a nice conversion asset.

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Perhaps.

Ontario junior league (non-CHL) possibly - he could always decide OHL if he wants to forgo the NCAA.
Gotcha. Gillis' comments on him seem to indicate they want him to go to Harvard. Per Hosea Chung:

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"We want him to stay at Harvard. We want smart kids." - Gillis #canucks #nhldraft
18 minutes ago via TweetDeck .

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Gillis says McNally is committed to Harvard but because they have 4-5 young guys in Manitoba next year, it wasn't a hindrance for Van.
So methinks USHL is the most likely bet at this point which is OK with me.

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lol @ the thought that going to Harvard implies your smrt.

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lol @ the thought that going to Harvard implies your smrt.
it does imply something.

you either have to be smart or hard-working... without one or the other, you don't get into an Ivy league school.

and when it comes to hockey, I'd value hard-working or high work ethic as high, if not higher, than being intelligent.

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lol @ the thought that going to Harvard implies your smrt.
Well Brian Burke went to Harvard... oh wait!!

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Well Brian Burke went to Harvard... oh wait!!
Academic intelligence does not necessarilly imply social intelligence, or other intelligence of any kind.

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Gillis on McNally:

"We had this guy ranked in the first round and when he was available in the 4th it was a pretty easy decision. Moreover, whoever I end up picking in the 5th round is a player we ranked as a late first round pick"
Gillis didn't say that.... right?. If the Canucks had him going in the 1st round then our scouting hasn't improved.

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Academic intelligence does not necessarilly imply social intelligence, or other intelligence of any kind.
Harvard led the nation in the past...

In grade inflation.

It was not only Harvard but also other Ivy League universities:
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Evidence of grade inflation at Ivy League schools:
  • In 1966, 22% of Harvard undergraduate students earned A's. By 1996, that figure rose to 46%. That same year, 82% of Harvard seniors graduated with honors.
  • In 1973, 31% of all grades at Princeton were A's. By 1997 that rose to 43%. In 1997, only 12% of all grades given at Princeton were below the B range.
Source: American Academy of Arts & Sciences
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Gillis didn't say that.... right?. If the Canucks had him going in the 1st round then our scouting hasn't improved.
How does that follow? Gillis has said the Canucks are using a different system and set of criteria with different metrics to rate players.

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steve moore went to harvard too

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So either he is extremely smart or he comes from a rich family...

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The cost of going to Harvard University for a year is $47,215. The cost can be broken down as follows:

* Tuition: $32,557
* Health Services Fee: $ 1,426
* Student Services Fee: $ 2,190
* Room: $ 6,060
* Board: $ 4,982

There is good news for honor students who come from families earning $60,000 per year or less, though:
They donít have to pay tuition. Harvard is dedicated to removing cost as a barrier for students who demonstrate ability but who lack the financial resources to pay tuition costs.

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Guys, that was a joke.



Less dense, please.

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steve moore went to harvard too
Steve has a degree in Environmental Sciences.

As did his brothers (Dominic and Mark) who went to Harvard - Mark Moore has been touted as the smartest hockey player and is author of Saving the Game. Mark had his career ended by PCS.
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Mark, who just might be the smartest hockey player who ever lived (he scored 1,590 points out of a possible 1,600 on the U.S. university student aptitude test (SAT)
http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Hockey/New...70226-sun.html

On his book:
http://www.savingthegame.ca/

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