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06-26-2010, 09:01 PM
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That's okay - the Flyers can do shootouts now.
We'll just bring in Boosh.

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Nabokov will sign a 35+ contract.

It's not about the age on July 1st, that is not the date of demarcation.
http://www.broadstreethockey.com/200...act-an-over-35

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Bill Daly, the deputy commissioner of the league, was contacted by Elliotte Friedman, a reporter for Hockey Night in Canada and FAN 590 in Toronto. Daly told Friedman that the deal is in fact an over-35 contract because of the date it goes into effect. It does not matter that the deal was signed before Pronger is 35 years old (he's 34 until October 10 of this year), because it does not go into place until the 2010-11 season.

The league's collective bargaining agreement uses June 30 as the cut off date, and Pronger will be 35 on June 30, 2010.

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06-26-2010, 09:15 PM
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You're right, I apologize for the mistake.

I was confusing the fact that Nabokov would be counted as a 35-year-old this upcoming season, but yes, he would be signing his new contract (as long as he does so before July 25th) at the age of 34.

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Nabokov will sign a 35+ contract.

It's not about the age on July 1st, that is not the date of demarcation.
It is June 30th of the year in which the contract takes effect. The contract takes effect for this season, this year. Therefore the date used is June 30, 2010. Nabokov will therefore count as 34 years old.

Pronger signed his deal at age 34, but his new contract doesn't take effect until this season, this year (as opposed to last year when he signed it). Therefore, the date used for that contract is the same as it would be for Nabokov's, June 30, 2010. Pronger is 35 as of that date.

Nabokov = not subject to 35+ rules.

Pronger = subject to 35+ rules.

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You're right, I apologize for the mistake.

I was confusing the fact that Nabokov would be counted as a 35-year-old this upcoming season, but yes, he would be signing his new contract (as long as he does so before June 25th) at the age of 34.
July 25th

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06-26-2010, 09:17 PM
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I'd love to see how Nabby does in the Playoffs with an actual Playoff team in-front of him. Plus his Playoff numbers are very strong to begin with.


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06-26-2010, 09:18 PM
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Corrected, thanks.

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06-26-2010, 09:19 PM
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I don't understand the dislike of this move. The guys stats barely move from regular season to playoffs. Nabokov doesn't choke in the playoffs, the SJ offense led by the ultimate choke artist Joe Thornton does.
Blows my mind.

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06-26-2010, 09:22 PM
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5 or less and I am ****ing loving this

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You're right, I apologize for the mistake.

I was confusing the fact that Nabokov would be counted as a 35-year-old this upcoming season, but yes, he would be signing his new contract (as long as he does so before July 25th) at the age of 34.
It doesn't matter at all WHEN he signs the contract. All that matters is June 30th of the year in which the contract is to be effective.

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All player salary and bonuses earned in a League Year by a Player who is in the second or later year of a multi-year SPC which was signed when the Player was age 35 or older (as of June 30 prior to the League Year in which the SPC is to be effective)...

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06-26-2010, 09:26 PM
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Get it done Homer..

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06-26-2010, 09:29 PM
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If Nabokov comes here I am willing to reserve judgment for a while. Of course I am interested in seeing what we sign him for if we can manage it. And Sure, his reputation as a playoff choker / quitter precede him, not like I believe in any of that crap anyway (see Marian Hossa). I say let the past be the past. Like it or not he is the best option the Flyers would have in net for the upcoming season. I hope that the change of scenery can give him new energy.

If he comes here, I will feel like we are a better team than last season.

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06-26-2010, 09:29 PM
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5 or less and I am ****ing loving this
I don't want him at five. At five I would rather let him walk and risk him being signed by another team at the possibility of also getting Biron'd and being forced to lower his demands.

If we give him 5 mil then it puts up in a very tight cap situation assuming we re-sign Coburn and don't move anyone. Tight to the point that we're screwed if we ever have a serious injury in the regular season (which you know we will).

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06-26-2010, 09:31 PM
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I'd love to see how Nabby does in the Playoffs with an actual Playoff team in-front of him. Plus his Playoff numbers are very strong to begin with.
It was definitely more the rest of the team that disappeared in the playoffs normally. This past playoffs, in 3 series, the Sharks gave up 41 goals and ONLY scored 41. The Pens scored 42, they scored 1 more and they only played in 2 series, while the Sharks played in 3.

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06-26-2010, 09:41 PM
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What Woof said. Besides, there's a difference between being weak mentally and being a quitter.
This is true. Though it doesn't much matter at the end of the day why your game went to pieces, as much as it matters that it did. At the end of the day, I could find something bad to say about any guy they went out and signed be it a goalie, d-man, forward...so I don't want to sound like I'm on a crusade against him. I'm not.

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06-26-2010, 09:41 PM
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Please dont sign this old expensive ***** quitter choke artist

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06-26-2010, 09:57 PM
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Man some of you piss and moan if we keep Leighton as the starter for 2010-2011. That same group piss and moan if we have Boucher as our #1 guy heading into the season. Then, when we show interest and are attempting to get a deal done with best option available (by far the best option might I add) what do some of you do? You piss and moan.

I get it, you want us to get a goalie just as long is it's the goalie (probably some middle of the pack guy or unproven prospect) you want.

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Lets just hope Homer doesn't screw this up.

Let's get him signed first..

I'm honestly okay with Nabby.

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06-26-2010, 09:59 PM
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Man some of you piss and moan if we keep Leighton as the starter for 2010-2011. That same group piss and moan if we have Boucher as our #1 guy heading into the season. Then, when we show interest and are attempting to get a deal done with best option available (by far the best option might I had) what do some of you do? You piss and moan.

I get it, you want us to get a goalie just as long is it's the goalie (probably some middle of the pack guy or unproven prospect) you want.

Exactly.. People crying all year long. Hell for the last 15+ years about the situation.. Now that we finally got a legit starting goalie people still want to ***** and moan. Imagine what Nabby would do behind this team??? The same defense that made Leighton LOOK good.

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06-26-2010, 10:00 PM
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two things:

1. hard to call one guy a playoff choker, when he plays on team that is full of them

2.i also watched the olympics, and i gotta say, i saw an russian team that was a friggin mess...nabby sucked, yes, but it wasnt like the rest of his mates were doing any better

ill give the guy the benefit of the doubt...he is one of the best regular season goalies out there, and that is a fact

how he does in the playoffs??? only time will tell.....but how can this be bad? hes better than what weve got, and hes better than whats on the market....and he does have playoff experience

cant go wrong with this...get it done homer

....and hey if we lose in the playoffs, we got another scapegoat haha

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Man some of you piss and moan if we keep Leighton as the starter for 2010-2011. That same group piss and moan if we have Boucher as our #1 guy heading into the season. Then, when we show interest and are attempting to get a deal done with best option available (by far the best option might I had) what do some of you do? You piss and moan.

I get it, you want us to get a goalie just as long is it's the goalie (probably some middle of the pack guy or unproven prospect) you want.
Pretty much. We have the best UFA goalie this off-season pretty much right in our lap and some have nothing but *****ing and moaning. He is what this team needs. He brings it every game (don't include the Olympics because it's an international stage and if some bring up Mason is a better option, he did the same, if not worse in a similar international stage). Also, with the thought of getting Biron because he got us to the ECF, so did Nabby for the Sharks, at least twice. He has awesome career regular season and play off stats, but he NEEDS a defense that can play in front of him, and that wasn't what he got this past season with the Sharks. He will here.

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06-26-2010, 10:07 PM
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Eh, the Olympics and the world championships are not really comparable tournaments. I get what you're saying though.

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06-26-2010, 10:09 PM
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I wouldn't want more than a 2 or 3 year deal. Hopefully by then Eriksson or Bobo will be ready for a #1 job.

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3 years at 4.5-5 million sounds good. Just don't include the NTC/NMC.

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06-26-2010, 10:15 PM
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Yeah I'm not really concerned as much about the possible choking/quitting aspect as much as the price tag, and what it means for our cap situation. I feel signing Nabakov means a pretty major shakeup offensively in 2011-2012. If we sign him for 3.5 i'll be happy as a clam.

Think he'd go for a 1 year deal?


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