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06-29-2010, 09:36 AM
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Redden to be waived at end of camp

http://www.blueshirtbanter.com/2010/...wade-redden-to

At least he is being discussed WOOOOOOOO get him out of here.

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06-29-2010, 09:41 AM
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I really do think that this is going to happen.

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I think we will know for pretty sure whether this is going to happen after FA starts.

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Ok so they waive him and then what?

They are still on the hook for his salary no?

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based off the fa's we sign we will know if this is true or not in the coming days

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i believe that Sather is trying to determine if he can land Kovalchuk first. If he gets the assurance that he can land him or some other top scorer, than you will see Redden moved. If not, I don't think it will happen.

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Ok so they waive him and then what?

They are still on the hook for his salary no?
no if he is sent down the cap hit goes with him

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Ok so they waive him and then what?

They are still on the hook for his salary no?
Not if he is sent down.

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Ok so they waive him and then what?

They are still on the hook for his salary no?
salary, yes. cap hit, no

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Since he signed before he turned 35, if he is sent to Hartford they still have to pay him his full salary, but the money does not count against the cap.

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Wouldnt this deter future FA signings from coming to NY?

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i believe that Sather is trying to determine if he can land Kovalchuk first. If he gets the assurance that he can land him or some other top scorer, than you will see Redden moved. If not, I don't think it will happen.
If sending Redden to the AHL is truly a consideration, it should happen regardless whether Kovalchuk signs here or not. We need the cap room even without Kovalchuk, and we need a defenseman who cares.

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My approach on this whole thing has been "ill believe it when I see it". There are 2 open D spots after Staal, Girardi, MDZ and Rozy. If McD signs then you can basically assume hes been told by the coaches/front office that, judging by his play in the prospects camp, that a spot on the top 6 is his to lose in training camp. Couple that with that fact that both Torts and Sather have stated that improving the D is a priority come July 1 along with the return of Valentanko to N.A., then it would appear that plans are being made to move on without him....but again, I'll believe it when I see it.

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Besides the fact that this should have been done last year.

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They're on the hook for his salary but not his cap hit. Then things could get interesting, depending on how he takes it. If he refuses assignment, he could be suspended, which I think takes him off the cap and salary (and probably is why he won't refuse assignment).

But the Sather quote from the Newsday article is pretty vague and without context.

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Wouldnt this deter future FA signings from coming to NY?
Probably. it's a point imyself and others have raised repeatedly. But most people seem okay with that, haha.

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Wouldnt this deter future FA signings from coming to NY?
Its been said over and over. If a player is deterred from playing here because they are scared they will under perform and be sent down to the minors, do we really want that player on our team?

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true. and those players are usually older players we are talking about. Im ok with it too lol.

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Its been said over and over. If a player is deterred from playing here because they are scared they will under perform and be sent down to the minors, do we really want that player on our team?
Plus I don't think it will have much of an effect. Players just want money...period

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Probably. it's a point imyself and others have raised repeatedly. But most people seem okay with that, haha.
I think it's kind of hard to tell if individual players would have a problem with it. I doubt many of them think "hey if I bust really bad and play like **** then I'll have to worry about being sent to Hartford!" most probably don't think that they're going to suck once they sign that contract.

More curious would probably be the PA's reaction to it, but I"m not sure what grounds they'd have to object.

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Wouldnt this deter future FA signings from coming to NY?
This is not exactly a case where Redden is simply waived because of his salary, he really was one of the worst dmen on the team last year. If any free agents fear that the same could happen to them, then I'm fine with them staying away. However, in the end money will make them overlook such doubts, so I really don't believe it will have a significant impact on any future signings.

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I agree it won't be much of a deterrance because players are greedy, but Redden being sent to the minors is not an isolated instance. Riismiller, Brashear, and now possibly Redden makes this a pattern for Sather.

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Yeah. Personally id have no problem playing in the AHL for a few years making 6.5 per...

But this has to raise a management flag for DOLAN. You cant have your GM throwing money away like that, thats a lot of green, on the cap or not.

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I had always understood that you can't waive someone in the off season which is why NYR has to wait until after camp to waive WR.

So how come Cheechoo, Kotalik and others all got waived yesterday by their respective teams?

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Maybe the way his contract is written?

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