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06-29-2010, 11:17 AM
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You guys sound like you're on the rag 90% of the time, quit *****in and let him do his job, he's only been around 1 year and in my opinion is doing a good job of rebuilding the organization..

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06-29-2010, 11:20 AM
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in my opinion is doing a good job of rebuilding the organization..
How is he doing a good job of this?

Really.

There's been numerous chances for him to trade away players to get a surplus of draft picks. But has chosen not to.

Outside of trading for Kari Lehtonen, he's done nothing to rebuild the organization. And even with trading Kari, he traded away one of our only defensive prospects.

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06-29-2010, 11:27 AM
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Yeah, he's not rebuilding the team (nor do I think he should), but I 100 percent agree with the statement of, "you guys sound like you're on the rag 90% of the time."

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06-29-2010, 11:40 AM
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Yeah, he's not rebuilding the team (nor do I think he should), but I 100 percent agree with the statement of, "you guys sound like you're on the rag 90% of the time."

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06-29-2010, 12:44 PM
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...the Petersen signing... Well atleast it wasn't as bad as Barch... Petersen I can live with, he occasionally mixes things up atleast... Barch however... Ugh... Makes me sick...
I put the Petersen and Barch signings in the same category: higher dollar value than their AHL replacements would have been.

Wathier, in his short time in the NHL proved he has what it takes to be at least a 13th forward. He is a fighter who actually has some size and even a smidge of fighting ability. He is also better than Barch at virtually everything in terms of skill, hockey sense, etc.

Petersen is a more expensive Gagnon. No, we don't know if Gagnon is a guy you can lean on over the course of a season. But, as a team on a tight internal budget every dollar counts. When this is the case, a Petersen on your 4th line is a luxury. Go with the internally developed cheaper option. It just seems to be common sense.

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06-29-2010, 12:49 PM
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You guys sound like you're on the rag 90% of the time, quit *****in and let him do his job, he's only been around 1 year and in my opinion is doing a good job of rebuilding the organization..
Meh. For the second straight year our offseason has started two months before the big shiny prize is handed out. We're allowed to ***** and moan, and now is the time to do it. I'll agree to get off the rag when his awesome decisions start paying off.

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06-29-2010, 02:40 PM
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Yikes, I can't believe I forgot about failing to sign Zubov. That goes right to the top of the list.

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06-29-2010, 02:58 PM
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The Stars never even made Zubov a offer.

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06-29-2010, 03:04 PM
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The Stars never even made Zubov a offer.
This is not true. they made 2 offers. both were lower than he wanted.

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06-29-2010, 03:07 PM
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Who cares if the Stars did or did not offer Zubov a contract (they did)? We've been over this all before, about whether or not the risk of an always injured Zubov was worth taking. Not only did the Stars feel the risk wasn't worth a possible reward, 29 other NHL teams thought the same.

Lest we also forget Zubov partially wanted to play in Russia because he thought he'd have a better chance at making the olympic team.

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06-29-2010, 03:12 PM
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This info could be wrong, but it was reported.

That situation apparently is not in Dallas. New Stars general manager Joe Nieuwendyk said he would like to allow Zubov to continue his recovery and then talk with him later in the summer. He said he has not made an offer to Zubov because he needs to know more about the defenseman's recovery.

"He's gone through a very serious injury and a very serious surgery, and he's still in a very serious rehab," Nieuwendyk said. "We'd love to talk to him after he has more information about his recovery. We want to keep that door open, but we can't do it until we have more information."

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06-29-2010, 03:19 PM
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And if you recall, the two sides exchanged numbers with Zubov's side wanting a two year deal over what he was making in his 'current' contract with the Stars wanting to give a one year, incentive heavy deal.

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06-29-2010, 03:24 PM
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Yeah, but discussing it and making a actual offer are different situations.
It's like going out on the FA then calling a few of the top FA's just to see what the asking price is but not making a offer since it's too high.

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06-29-2010, 03:25 PM
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Yeah, but discussing it and making a actual offer are different situations.
True enough. It was poorly worded on my part.

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06-30-2010, 01:45 AM
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I have had it

After another piece of crap first round draft pick I am done with him. His hiring of Crawford, awful. Even the thought of trading Ribs, which now seems to be something he is forced to do, is awful. The way he has dealt with Modano, awful. His contract with Ott, awful. I know ownership is part of the problem but come on. He has set this team back even further.

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Um

Any interest in the Hayes brothers for Campbell?

Campbell although not a top need for Stars at moment is a great prospect ,,,, I and many other Hawk fans were hoping we could move up in draft to get him

Defensive prospects is your need

Lalonde + for Campbell work for you

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06-30-2010, 01:54 AM
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A few Stars fans may be peeved because they didn't get the shiny toys they wanted in the draft, but Stars management is really high on him, to the point of obsession. It's kinda weird.

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06-30-2010, 02:23 AM
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Some thoughts from Nieuwendyk.

Nieuwendyk firmly thinks the Stars can win the Stanley Cup next season.



Nieuwendyk believes the Stars have too many left-handed centers and too many skilled forwards overall.

I'm not going to comment on the left handed center part, but there's a problem with too many skilled forwards? Nieuwendyk's dream roster is probably 12 Steve Ott's at forward.

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06-30-2010, 02:29 AM
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A few Stars fans may be peeved because they didn't get the shiny toys they wanted in the draft, but Stars management is really high on him, to the point of obsession. It's kinda weird.
I agree, with the options available Campbell was a good selection a lot better one then Fowler or Gormley. Campbell has a lot higher upside then either one.

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06-30-2010, 07:44 AM
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Some thoughts from Nieuwendyk.

Nieuwendyk firmly thinks the Stars can win the Stanley Cup next season.



Nieuwendyk believes the Stars have too many left-handed centers and too many skilled forwards overall.

I'm not going to comment on the left handed center part, but there's a problem with too many skilled forwards? Nieuwendyk's dream roster is probably 12 Steve Ott's at forward.

Wow...just wow... I guess that is what happens when you learn to be a GM from Burke. At least Heika hasn't been gulping on the kool-aid like apparently Joe has.

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Will the Stars be a good team next season? There's a very good chance they won't.
Good to taper those Stanley Cup aspirations of Joe's with a good dose of reality.

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06-30-2010, 08:04 AM
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I don't have any issue with Nieuwendyk being optimistic. I'd rather the optimism than the pessimism.

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06-30-2010, 09:32 AM
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So I think we should be happy with a First Overall pick next season!?

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06-30-2010, 09:54 AM
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So I think we should be happy with a First Overall pick next season!?
Thanks for comin out...

I agree, nothing wrong with being optimistic and I also agree with too much skill. Not saying we have to unload, but we need to build around it. I like the idea of Ott - Wandell - Armstrong, however that will come at a steep price. I would also rebuild our pathetic fourth line. Peterson out, Barch out.

We have a great foundation

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06-30-2010, 12:09 PM
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Thanks for comin out...

I agree, nothing wrong with being optimistic and I also agree with too much skill. Not saying we have to unload, but we need to build around it. I like the idea of Ott - Wandell - Armstrong, however that will come at a steep price. I would also rebuild our pathetic fourth line. Peterson out, Barch out.

We have a great foundation
Too late.....still can't figure out what Joe sees in him, it's pretty much a wasted roster spot that could have gone to Sceviour or Sawada. Hopefully we see some new blood at forward next year, and, hopefully, Joe figures out how to fix our defense, because if we go into next season with Robi as our top blueliner, guaranteed we're missing the playoffs again.

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06-30-2010, 12:13 PM
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I don't have any issue with Nieuwendyk being optimistic. I'd rather the optimism than the pessimism.
More than any other single trait, a person in management needs to set realistic expectations. Optimism is great for fans; we should all start each season with a renewed sense of hope. A manager being optimistic to the point of delusion is a recipe for disaster.

Is it technically possible that the Stars win the Cup next year? Absolutely. For those of you optimists so inclined, I would suggest placing a $50 bet on our boys in Vegas. I'm sure the odds will pay off like a mf'er.

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06-30-2010, 12:15 PM
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Armstrong was never going to sign here. He wants too much money and besides we're already paying Ott darn near 3 million dollars for the 3rd line. They're not going to bring in another expensive third line winger.

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