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06-30-2010, 04:07 PM
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Sounds good to me.

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2 million a year is something I could live with.

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group buy for our goalies! i'd just give em both this contract and call it a day.

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Good that he seeks $2M, then he maybe can settle down with about $1.5M in the end? He has something like 91.20% in average on 110 NHL-games, pretty solid.

Something like $4M for Price + Ellis would make me really happy on at least 2 years.

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06-30-2010, 04:11 PM
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If we sign a back up for 2M, one of the main reason for letting Halak go in the first place just went poof - saving a lot of cap space to actually improve the team.

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He wouldn't be a backup. I think it's pretty obvious the Habs would like to do another 1a/1b deal.
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If he'd do 3 yr/5.5M$-5.75M$, I'd be down with that.

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06-30-2010, 04:15 PM
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That would creat another goalie controversy and it will suck HARD!
This is Montreal...you could have Youppi as a backup and still have a goalie contreversy

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Really.

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Dan Ellis: "My biggest thing right now is to play on a team that wins...You don't always need to be THE guy,"



I want him NOW

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If we sign a back up for 2M, one of the main reason for letting Halak go in the first place just went poof - saving a lot of cap space to actually improve the team.
I kinda agree.

I'd rather sink or swim with Price than spend $4M+ on a tandem.

Granted, if the team did go my route and got a backup for around $1M, that's only a $1M saving but we have to make up the money somewhere from all the little overpayments and the Laraque buyout.

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All indications are that goaltender Dan Ellis will be going to market tomorrow. Doesn't preclude MTL as a destination but opens it up. less than 20 seconds ago via web

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If we sign a back up for 2M, one of the main reason for letting Halak go in the first place just went poof - saving a lot of cap space to actually improve the team.



Really ?
Really, yes, and as far as the cap goes there is a big enough savings in this to still justify the trade Halak for cap space issue, we are still up ~$2.0mill

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TSNBobMcKenzie All indications are that goaltender Dan Ellis will be going to market tomorrow. Doesn't preclude MTL as a destination but opens it up.

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If we sign a back up for 2M, one of the main reason for letting Halak go in the first place just went poof - saving a lot of cap space to actually improve the team.
You don't understand, Halak didn't wanted to be a backup again, and management still believe in Price. Bottom line.

That was the main reason for letting him go. He ask for a trade in november.

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BTW, Flyers got their goalie so that's one less possibility for him.

Will the Shark trust him as a number one to get them to the cup ? Don't think so. They'll go with veteran goaltender.

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06-30-2010, 04:28 PM
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Ideally for the Habs is they get a solid back up for 1.5 mil or less. With the depth on the UFA goalie market they should have no problem getting Auld, Biron, Ellis, Hedberg or Nittymaki. Right now there are more UFA's than open spots.

LA and Vancouver will probably go young with back ups with Bernier and Schneider.

The only teams shopping for a true #1 are Phillie, San Jose and TB...I think Nabokov, Mason and Turco/Ellis...plus THomas via trade.

That leaves Turco/Ellis Biron Nittymaki Hedberg Emery Toskala Auld Danis Raycroft Leighton Emery Lalime battling for back up spots.

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06-30-2010, 04:31 PM
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2M for Ellis is exactly what I was expecting. This would be a fair deal, really.

As far as Biron is concerned, I wouldn't be willing to offer him more than 1M/year.

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06-30-2010, 04:33 PM
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Really.
Ok.

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I kinda agree.

I'd rather sink or swim with Price than spend $4M+ on a tandem.

Granted, if the team did go my route and got a backup for around $1M, that's only a $1M saving but we have to make up the money somewhere from all the little overpayments and the Laraque buyout.
That's my reasoning. If you trade Halak and go with Price, you're hopefully assuming that he can pick up the mantle this season. And if he can, then play the crap out of him, 65+games.

And yeah all those little millions you save, they add up in the end to a pretty good upgrade somewhere.

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Really, yes, and as far as the cap goes there is a big enough savings in this to still justify the trade Halak for cap space issue, we are still up ~$2.0mill
That's if Halak signs for 4M and we sign a back up for 2M. At this point in time, the upgrade from Ellis to Halak is well worth 2M IMHO.

I just don't think we should rely on our back up to be playing 35-40 games. We decided to go with Price, were we assuming he can handle it or not ?

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You don't understand, Halak didn't wanted to be a backup again, and management still believe in Price. Bottom line.

That was the main reason for letting him go. He ask for a trade in november.
Don't tell me "I don't understand". Maybe it's you that doesn't.

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2M for Ellis is exactly what I was expecting. This would be a fair deal, really.

As far as Biron is concerned, I wouldn't be willing to offer him more than 1M/year.
I'd take Biron at 1M/year above Ellis at 2M/year any day of the week, and 5 times on any other day.


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he's going to test the market that can be a good thing or a bad one. We'll see tomorrow.

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If we sign a back up for 2M, one of the main reason for letting Halak go in the first place just went poof - saving a lot of cap space to actually improve the team.
Are you serious? Halak is asking for at least $4-5m per year. If we sign Ellis to $2m, we essentially have both goaltenders under what Halak was making.

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Just got off the phone with Dan Ellis. Says it was misunderstanding. Reporter asked him about that figure and he said it's something he would consider. He never put out that figure. He's laughing it off as his first experience with Montreal media!

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06-30-2010, 04:44 PM
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Ok.



That's my reasoning. If you trade Halak and go with Price, you're hopefully assuming that he can pick up the mantle this season. And if he can, then play the crap out of him, 65+games.

And yeah all those little millions you save, they add up in the end to a pretty good upgrade somewhere.



That's if Halak signs for 4M and we sign a back up for 2M. At this point in time, the upgrade from Ellis to Halak is well worth 2M IMHO.

I just don't think we should rely on our back up to be playing 35-40 games. We decided to go with Price, were we assuming he can handle it or not ?



Don't tell me "I don't understand". Maybe it's you that doesn't.



I'd take Biron at 1M/year above Ellis at 2M/year any day of the week, and 5 times on any other day.
I don't know... I wonder if Biron has 30-40 solid games in him. You never know. Price might just get hurt for all we know.

The additionnal bucks would be valuable cap space to get beter players, too. That being said, having two capable goalies is something pretty damn tempting. That being said, I would take Biron, Boyd and Torres before Ellis, Boyd and nothing else.

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Even if Ellis doesn't seen in Montreal, I'll forever remember these couple of days. He's a pretty cool guy from what I've seen in tweets haha

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He would most likely play 35-40 games this year. I don't see Price coming in and carrying the load for 60+ games. Plus, I would rather we sign a guy like Ellis to take some heat off Price. No need to rush him anymore. Something like 40 games this year, 45-50 next year, then 60 the year after would be ideal. This is all dependent on whether or not he actually earns the right to play 40 games a year.

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