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Kreider ready to turn pro?

View Poll Results: Is Kreider ready to turn pro?
Yes 11 22.92%
No: 1 more year in collage 32 66.67%
No: 2 more years in collage 5 10.42%
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07-01-2010, 07:07 PM
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It should also be pointed out that unless the Rangers flip one of them, both Kreider and Grachev play the same position.

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07-01-2010, 07:08 PM
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220 pounds at age 19 with speed? Dude's gonna be a beast.

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07-01-2010, 07:13 PM
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Like this pick more each day!

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07-01-2010, 07:14 PM
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it was great watching kreider in person. the kid has the talent to make it

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07-01-2010, 07:16 PM
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It should also be pointed out that unless the Rangers flip one of them, both Kreider and Grachev play the same position.
Can Grachev play Right?

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Because those 3 are arguably our best 3 forward prospects we have had at any time over the last 10 years, and have the potential to all play on the same line.

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wow.. Maybe somewhat over the top with that statement but you might be right... LOL ... off the top of my head I am trying to think of other Ranger forward prospects who were much hyped the past 10 years.. Dubinsky, Dawes, Prucha, Jessiman, Lundmark, Brendl, Mike York, Bourett (remember the hype when Slats traded for him?),

the big (3) prospects now seem to have some legit talent...

I really like what Krieder is showing with his size and skating ability... Hopefully the Hockey IQ will develop at the NHL Level.. If so... watch out... If not, with his size and skating he could be useful in the NHL.

Stepan just looks to be a solid NHL pro No doubt..... Could be a top 6 player with the intangles?... Maybe like a Chris Drury type of player...

I am not sure with Grachev... Not sure why... Maybe it was the disapointment he showed at the AHL last year... He is young so hope he keeps developing..

Historically, The odds of all (3) prospects developing to what is anticipated is very low... but you never know...

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It should also be pointed out that unless the Rangers flip one of them, both Kreider and Grachev play the same position.
nothing wrong with them playing 1st and 2nd line left wings!

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07-01-2010, 07:29 PM
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nothing wrong with them playing 1st and 2nd line left wings!
Don't disagree, but people were drooling over the idea of Kreider-Stepan-Grachev in HFD.

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If he signs it is 100% rushing him. Kid needs another year to develop offensively IMO.

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07-01-2010, 07:30 PM
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nothing wrong with them playing 1st and 2nd line left wings!

And, where are you putting Dubinsky?

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It should also be pointed out that unless the Rangers flip one of them, both Kreider and Grachev play the same position.
One LW for the 1st and 2nd line. I fail to see the problem who says they have to play the same line?

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What a loaded statement. You my friend should get a job with the Rangers PR department. How could Grachev be considered in that catagory when he couldn't score 20 goals in the minors? Hell he barely put up 20 points. If this guy struggles again he could find himself in the ECHL. I wasn't away top 20 prospects in the world played there.
THN Future Watch 2010. Stepan 16th, Grachev 21st and Kreider 22nd. These are NHL scouts ranking these players. Are you an NHL scout? Didn't think so. I'll take their word for it.

28 points is barely putting up 20? That must be that new math I've heard so much about.

And yeah, I'm sure that after playing 80 games as a 19 year old rookie, they're going to decide now to put him in the ECHL. Makes sense.

Seems to me there's a lot of things you aren't aware of.

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I'd like to see a wire-to-wire dominant NCAA season with the Hobey Baker as a possibility, then at least 10-15 games in the AHL before he gets the call.

No reason to rush this kid.

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Don't disagree, but people were drooling over the idea of Kreider-Stepan-Grachev in HFD.
Meh, I think playing on the opposite wing is little overblown sometimes. There are advantages as well as disadvantages to playing the opposite side.

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And, where are you putting Dubinsky?
dunno, he can play right, or center, wherever.

Maybe he gets traded, maybe one of these guys gets traded. Ultimately room will be found one way or another if their play warrants it

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Meh, I think playing on the opposite wing is little overblown sometimes. There are advantages as well as disadvantages to playing the opposite side.
I'm actually a little surprised that Grachev doesn't - many Russians play on their off wing.

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The kid is 19 and that physically built already? 220? If true that shows some kind of work ethic.
Or good genes...

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07-01-2010, 08:11 PM
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Well Grachev is a more puck possession type, more in the mold of, yes Jaromir Jagr in his Ranger years than a Kovalchuk or Ovechkin.

I think he could play either wing with relative comfort once he figures out his game, and I think his playing style will complement with Anisimov beautifully.


On Kreider, if we really want to groom this kid into a offensive beast, he needs top 6 Hartford minutes this year. Not College, not forced into a NHL role, not bottom 6 Hartford. Play him with Stepan, let them learn to play together this year and we may have something.

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I'd be in favor of that. Playing 80 games rather than 40 will be more beneficial for him at this point. I wonder though if Sather would let him go to the WJC.

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No reason to rush this kid.
Not sure he would be rushed. Rangers have been willing to send just about everyone to Hartford if that is what is called for. The fact he was asked to play on the US team at the Worlds shows how far he has come. Whatever he wants to do is fine with him but I bet being at this camp he sees his future and likes what he sees.

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disagree with you guys.

Kreider isn't an AHL level player upstairs yet. Physically he may be ready, but mentally he has a LOT to learn about the game. Its glaringly obvious. Id rather we not rush a kid with, literally, limitless potential.
1 more year of college
1 year of AHL
then the NHL.

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07-01-2010, 08:33 PM
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If he's really 220 now that's amazing. I think it's more likely Sather was BSing a little bit and inflated his weight total. He said Stepan was 190

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I just do not think he is ready.

He's progressing nicely, but he's a kid who is just starting to put the pieces together. The key now is experience and creating step challenges for him.

I say, let's see where we're at in another 12 months. Then we can debate this.

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07-01-2010, 08:46 PM
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I think he could transition to the AHL this year quite easily and have a pretty decent season. However, I don't think he's quite ready to jump straight to the NHL.

Regardless, I think he wants to go back for another season at BC.
Agreed

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Guys this is a 19 year old kid who got better as the season went on, but still has a lot to learn - defensive positioning, using his linemates, etc. etc.

Let him at least have a wire to wire season of dominating college hockey before we throw him into the AHL.

I don't know where this suddent urge to promote everyone to the minors at 19 has come from.

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