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07-01-2010, 11:28 PM
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A. Kostitsyn on the move

From David Pagnotta's Twitter, at 00:06 :

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A. Kostitsyn still trade bait, Habs want top-six winger
I usually don't post rumors, but David Pagnotta has been one of the most reliable journalist on Twitter today. He was often the first to break the news even before Dreger, MacKenzie and Lebrun. So I thought that was an interesting rumor...

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could we trade him for a time machine?

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07-01-2010, 11:30 PM
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Whats sad is he's the closest thing we got to a physical top 6 forward, hopefully Gauthier realizes this

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I think they'd be lucky to get a top 6 winger for AKost..

They'll need to package him with something and/or someone if they hope to get a return like that.

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From David Pagnotta's Twitter :



I usually don't post rumors, but David Pagnotta has been one of the most reliable journalist on Twitter today. He was often the first to break the news even before Dreger, MacKenzie and Lebrun. So I thought that was an interesting rumor...
who is Pagnotta?

I would be surprised if the habs think or are trying to trade A.Kost for another top 6 winger... all we could hope to get in return is either a clear downgrade, or a similarly inconsistent player.

much more likely is that they want to trade him, and then sign a Frolov or Lombardi.

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07-01-2010, 11:31 PM
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they won't get a top 6 winger for him, if that's what the tweet means, they'd have to package him with a 2nd and a prospect, his value is at it's absolute lowest. If we traded him for a solid defensive dman prospect and signed frolov for 4 million ish (frolov is still available, right? I just got home), i'd call it a job well done.

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they won't get a top 6 winger for him, if that's what the tweet means, they'd have to package him with a 2nd and a prospect, his value is at it's absolute lowest. If we traded him for a solid defensive dman prospect and signed frolov for 4 million ish (frolov is still available, right? I just got home), i'd call it a job well done.
This might be what the tweet is referring to, and what Gauthier is aiming for.

AKost for a decent prospect (of any sort, really, even goalie now) and/or a pick. IOW, a pure salary dump.

Then use the savings from dealing him (and going inexpensive in net) to sign Frolov.

If Gauthier did this, I'd be a happy camper.

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Most likely the idea here is not to get a top 6 or any high return for Andrei. I think the idea would be to shed a bit of salary to sign someone (Frolov??) in his place.

Edited to add: I just realize that like a few of us in a row posted the same thing.

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Pagnotta is reliable.

But A. Kost being "trade bait" does not mean it is imminent he is being moved.

Would you pay $3 million plus for AK 46? I sure as hell would not. The man has some skills but he has zero hockey sense, has trouble playing system hockey, and is only "physcial" when he hits someone late, or when they are not looking.

If the Habs are to move him, I hope it is for little to no salary in return (picks or minor prospect). Then use the extra cap room to get a Lombardi, or pony up an offer sheet to someone like Bobby Ryan. Hell, I'd even call Dallas and see if they would somehow trade Brendan Morrow for A. Kost plus prospects.........

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This might be what the tweet is referring to, and what Gauthier is aiming for.

AKost for a decent prospect (of any sort, really, even goalie now) and/or a pick. IOW, a pure salary dump.

Then use the savings from dealing him (and going inexpensive in net) to sign Frolov.

If Gauthier did this, I'd be a happy camper.
EXACTLY.

And we should be doing this with other players too.

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Well, by adding Eller, Palushaj, and Shultz in two deals with St. Louis recently, our prospect depth amongst forwards is pretty darn good right now.

So its possible that we could package AKost together with a couple of forward prospects that have yet to pan out for us (like, say, Maxwell and Patches) and that total package might be enough to entice a team to deal away a 20 plus goals power forward to us.


That being said, I could see an AKost salary dump working. AKost would obviously be a reclamation project for any team acquiring him now... but so are Olli Jokinen and Alex Tanguay for Calgary, and Calgary gladly signed them less than 24 hours ago. I can almost guarantee you that out of 30 NHL teams, there's at least one or two that would take a gamble on AKost in a "soft" salary dump trade.

Not every GM thinks the way your typical HFBoarder does...

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EXACTLY.

And we should be doing this with other players too.
I'm sure we're trying, but akost's salary is much more manageable than hammer's.

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if versteeg can be moved, so can Andrei. I would be happy for a salary dump or a decent prospect coming back only if it meant being in line for an upgrade via free agency. FRolov or Kovy please!

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It would be great but the risk here is we trade him out and we are unable to sign the top 6 guy we want. So if this is true let's hope we can move him quickly. With one year left on his contract, if we do not ask for too much in return he should be an attractive deal for one of the 29 other teams out there.

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It would be great but the risk here is we trade him out and we are unable to sign the top 6 guy we want. So if this is true let's hope we can move him quickly. With one year left on his contract, if we do not ask for too much in return he should be an attractive deal for one of the 29 other teams out there.
Well I believe they would sign someone first, and then try to shed some salary by trading Kostitsyn for prospects or picks. And if they can't sign anyone, then maybe they'll keep Andrei.

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Hamr to Isles for them to get to the floor, then AK for a pick, then Kovalchuk!

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This might be what the tweet is referring to, and what Gauthier is aiming for.

AKost for a decent prospect (of any sort, really, even goalie now) and/or a pick. IOW, a pure salary dump.

Then use the savings from dealing him (and going inexpensive in net) to sign Frolov.

If Gauthier did this, I'd be a happy camper.
I wouldn't mind this at all and it was something I've thought about. I would be surprised if there weren't any takers for Akost as a salary dump. Nice upside and it wouldn't cost a roster player. I wouldn't mind offering Frolov 4.5 mills.

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who is Pagnotta?

I would be surprised if the habs think or are trying to trade A.Kost for another top 6 winger... all we could hope to get in return is either a clear downgrade, or a similarly inconsistent player.

much more likely is that they want to trade him, and then sign a Frolov or Lombardi.
i'd be happy with that, just don't overpay the ****ers!

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Trade Andrei + futures for Radulov's rights and then try to sign Frolov.

That's my dream...

Cammalleri - Plekanec - Radulov

Frolov - Gomez - Gionta

would be a SOLID top 6.

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I'm sure we're trying, but akost's salary is much more manageable than hammer's.
i believe we need to keep hamrlik, at least until markov is healthy.

i believe that the 5.5 we will save from hamrlik should be used next year for the following:

-raise to markov and lock him up.
-additional raise to price (beyond his year)
-future raise for subban who you know will cost us more once his elc is over.

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Andrei can be trade if we sign frolov or Kovalchuk it will be a upgrade or he can be trade for a top 6 winger but we will have to add a good prospect.

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I wouldnt mind if Andrei wasn't traded... but if he is I hope they get Frolov to replace him on the Cammalleri and Plekanec line

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Let's face it, AK46 will only be tradable for an other overpaid forward. I just hope we could at least find one overpaid forward that play a physical type of hockey.

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Whats sad is he's the closest thing we got to a physical top 6 forward, hopefully Gauthier realizes this
Gionta is a physical top 6 forward.

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why trade ak and hope for a 20 goal scorer back exactly? Doesn't make sense to me.

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