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New Top 20 Prospect Rank, #1

View Poll Results: Number 1
Joakim Andersson (C) 0 0%
Calle Jarnkrok (C) 0 0%
Jakub Kindl (D) 8 12.31%
Thomas McCollum (G) 0 0%
Jan Mursak (RW) 0 0%
Gustav Nyquist (LW) 4 6.15%
Teemu Pulkkinen (RW) 3 4.62%
Riley Sheahan (C) 0 0%
Brendan Smith (D) 13 20.00%
Tomas Tatar (LW) 37 56.92%
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06-30-2010, 12:35 AM
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New Top 20 Prospect Rank, #1

Please post who you would like to see added.

Add: Landon Ferraro (C)

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06-30-2010, 12:42 AM
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Voted Brendan Smith.

Add: Adam Almqvist

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06-30-2010, 12:47 AM
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Tatar will win this. I don't think there's any question about it.

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06-30-2010, 12:48 AM
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I'm not sure recently drafted guys should be included in these polls. Maybe that's just me.

I voted for Nyquist, add Ritola.

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06-30-2010, 12:55 AM
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For the record, i did it in ABC order to eliminate bias (if that does anything).

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06-30-2010, 06:38 AM
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Add A2. Take Kindl off the list. He can't go back to the AHL I believe. He can only stay with the big club, I wouldn't call that a prospect.

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06-30-2010, 07:04 AM
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Add Almqvist. I also agree on taking Kindl off.

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06-30-2010, 07:10 AM
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I hate these cause I am usually stuck voting for the same person 4-5 rounds in a row.

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06-30-2010, 07:20 AM
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Joakim Andersson is up for voting over Landon Ferraro? Really? Talk about criminally underrating a guy. Ferraro is still a 1st line talent. Andersson at best is probably a #3 center. You realize that Andersson's best season was only 18 points right? You could make a really good case that Nestrasil belongs on this list before Andersson. And what exactly has Pulkkinen done yet in his career to get on here over Ferraro? Get hyped up a ton? His production and injury history hasn't exactly been stellar. I mean come on, you are saying that our top pick from last years draft isn't even in the discussion for the #1 prospect.

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06-30-2010, 07:47 AM
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Add A2. Take Kindl off the list. He can't go back to the AHL I believe. He can only stay with the big club, I wouldn't call that a prospect.
Yeah that's a good point. If you are going to keep guys who are out of options (ie, Kindl) then you should add Ritola. But these guys have completed their "development" so they should probably be removed since this is a prospect list.

Add Ferraro.


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06-30-2010, 08:17 AM
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I went with Tatar. Add Ferraro

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06-30-2010, 09:37 AM
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Smith

Add Ritola

(Are we going with guys who would be Calder eligible?)

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06-30-2010, 10:57 AM
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voted Kindl

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06-30-2010, 11:12 AM
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This is my quick look at the top 20 ask me tomorrow and things could be different.
Left out Kindl and Ritola as I hope they will both be up.

1. Tomas Tatar - I think he will end up being a great second line player
2. Brendan Smith - Top 4 D-man
3. Jan Mursak - Had a good year I would expect next year to be even better.
4. Gustav Nyquist - Tore up the NCAA. His Hobey Baker run moves him up for me.
5. Thomas McCollum - Not a great year but still has starter potential.
6. Adam Almqvist - Could be a little high this early but I just like him.
7. Landon Ferraro - Not the strongest year but will bounce back a prove why he was the Wings first pick.
8. Joakim Andersson - Has size and is playing in the SEL. I hope he can get more playing time.
9. Brian Lashoff - Has good size and the fact that he had 5 points in 6 games a couple years ago.
10. Cory Emmerton - I hope this being his contract year he will make them have no choice but to sign him.
11. Logan Pyett - Will have a bigger roles in Grand Rapids with Kindl moving on.
12. Riley Sheahan - Only reason he is this high is due to his size and draft position.
13. Andrej Nestrasil - Started last year off great and then slowed down. Hopefully can regain it with new scenery.
14. Calle Jarnkrok - Anybody the scouts call a little Zetterberg you have to like.
15. Teemu Pulkkinen - Could be hit or miss. The hype has him this high already.
16. Brent Raedeke - Could end up being a 4th liner.
17. Max Nicastro - I think he will start moving up quick after making all rookie team.
18. Sergei Kolosov - Could someday become a 6th d-man if only he would find a mean streak.
19. Willie Coetzee - Had a very strong year with 81 points in 72 games. If he could become better defensively he could be a good top 6 player.
20. Mitchell Callahan - Any body who gets 19 fighting majors and still scores 20 goals has to be in my top 20. I hope he gets bigger and works on his skating.

edit: I guess that means add Almqvist and Ferraro.


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06-30-2010, 11:18 AM
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Tatar Salad for the win.

And my usuall 3 suspects follow:

Ferraro
Almqvist
Coetzee


Why? Just because.

By the way, once again Holland has not ruled out the possiblity of Smith making the team out of camp this season. He can't make it much more obvious, the opportunity is there for the young man. He doesn't speak about any of the other prospects as if they're that close. Holland recognizes Smith's age as a factor as well, he's not a junior afterall.


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8. Joakim Andersson - Has size and is playing in the SEL. I hope he can get more playing time.
He'll play in Grand Rapids next season, maybe 3rd line centerman? Otherwise a good list, though I see much more potential in Sheahan. He'll have about 25-30 points next season in the defense-driven Notre Dame team.

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06-30-2010, 11:31 AM
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I voted Smith.

I think its becoming clearer to me that he will be our replacement for Rafi but with more of a mean streak. If that holds true, we are talking a top 2 Dman wih high offensive potnetial.

I love Tatar, dont get me wrong, but I just can nail him down yet. He has potential to be like a hudler IMO. Good 50-60 pts and solid PP time. At least 3rd line, very possibly 2nd line.

Thinking of what is more rare and what really gives a pospect "value" I would have to say a top 2 puck moving Dman is of better value than a 50-60 pt PP specialist, therefore I say Smith.

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06-30-2010, 11:37 AM
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Voted Tatar but Smith is not too far behind.

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He'll play in Grand Rapids next season, maybe 3rd line centerman? Otherwise a good list, though I see much more potential in Sheahan. He'll have about 25-30 points next season in the defense-driven Notre Dame team.
Sorry should of clarified. Meant he played SEL. I agree he could turn out to be a very solid prospect learning and having a strong defensive game before he comes to Grand Rapids and then working and developing his offense.

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Wouldn't a better way to make a prospect list is everyone make their own top 20 and a 1st place vote counts as XXX 2nd place XXXX 3rd place XXXXX etc... then add all the scores up and rank everyone based on total points from all voters.

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06-30-2010, 12:34 PM
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This is definitely a two horse race between Smith and Tatar. Ultimately, I chose Tatar over Smith because of what he's already accomplished at his age in comparison to Smith. Every prospect's development is different but the rapid growth of Tatar at such a young age leads me to believe that he is the more promising prospect.

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Joakim Andersson is up for voting over Landon Ferraro? Really? Talk about criminally underrating a guy. Ferraro is still a 1st line talent. Andersson at best is probably a #3 center. You realize that Andersson's best season was only 18 points right? You could make a really good case that Nestrasil belongs on this list before Andersson. And what exactly has Pulkkinen done yet in his career to get on here over Ferraro? Get hyped up a ton? His production and injury history hasn't exactly been stellar. I mean come on, you are saying that our top pick from last years draft isn't even in the discussion for the #1 prospect.
I'd be on your side on this one but joakim was on RWC's list, which is the one I went by (only thing that site actually does right IMHO)... Not like Joakim will ve voted in at 2 so we should be ok.

Ferraro added, Mods close this poll.

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I voted Smith.

I think its becoming clearer to me that he will be our replacement for Rafi but with more of a mean streak. If that holds true, we are talking a top 2 Dman wih high offensive potnetial.

I love Tatar, dont get me wrong, but I just can nail him down yet. He has potential to be like a hudler IMO. Good 50-60 pts and solid PP time. At least 3rd line, very possibly 2nd line.

Thinking of what is more rare and what really gives a pospect "value" I would have to say a top 2 puck moving Dman is of better value than a 50-60 pt PP specialist, therefore I say Smith.
I don't see the Hudler comparison, tbh. Tatar has more hustle, better skater. Plus, even at his size, he goes to the net. The overall skill of each is a wash, but the determination is my deciding factor.

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06-30-2010, 06:26 PM
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I don't see the Hudler comparison, tbh. Tatar has more hustle, better skater. Plus, even at his size, he goes to the net. The overall skill of each is a wash, but the determination is my deciding factor.
Tatar is more like a small Hossa.

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Nope. Tatar resembles Šatan and Pánik Hossa.

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