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Kreider ready to turn pro?

View Poll Results: Is Kreider ready to turn pro?
Yes 11 22.92%
No: 1 more year in collage 32 66.67%
No: 2 more years in collage 5 10.42%
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07-01-2010, 11:28 PM
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Seems like these guys are closer than we think.

Still, another year at BC wouldnt hurt. Let him dominate, itll be good for his confidence. Then he can come in next year with a more reasonable shot to make the club, and at very least, play in the AHL. All while Stepan, Grachev and hopefully McDonagh are a year ahead of him.

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07-02-2010, 12:33 AM
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Yeah let's put him in Hartford and watch him put up similar numbers to what Grachev did, and then let's watch everyone lose confidence in him...

Let him dominate college this year if he's really going to be that good, go into the AHL with some serious confidence coming off what should be a great year for the whole BC team, and pay his dues.

No need to rush, he was a project pick

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07-02-2010, 01:15 AM
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I definitely think Kreider should stay one year...

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07-02-2010, 01:53 AM
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im sure a lot of people are saying the same, "One more year"

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07-02-2010, 07:53 AM
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I don't trust the current crew in Hartford with Kreider's development right now. Yes, it would wonderful to get him paired Stepan in Hartford, and let their chemistry continue to develop. If anything, I'd love to see him in the OHL, but, his rights are held by St. John's of the Q.

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07-02-2010, 08:27 AM
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disagree with you guys.

Kreider isn't an AHL level player upstairs yet. Physically he may be ready, but mentally he has a LOT to learn about the game. Its glaringly obvious. Id rather we not rush a kid with, literally, limitless potential.
1 more year of college
1 year of AHL
then the NHL.
I'm not saying I disagree, but I'm just wondering, what have you seen with your two eyes that tells you this? Did you see the WC games? If you're basing this assessment off the WJCs or even the Frozen Four games I think you might be off base because this kid is getting better every single day.

Again, I'm not personally advocating a promotion to the AHL this season, I'm just wondering where people's most recent viewings of Kreider have been because I haven't seen him play for months.

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07-02-2010, 08:38 AM
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The only recent viewings of Kreider have been from the WC's. I only saw one game there but he looked decent...not really out of place, maybe kind of like a rookie but not in over his head. Read the plays pretty well and created some chances.

I'm an advocate for him going back to college but mainly because I think it will give him more of an opportunity to work on his skills more than anything else. Physically he could play in the AHL, and I think he could keep up with the play, but we need him to get confident in his scoring abilities, etc

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07-02-2010, 08:47 AM
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F it. Let's bring them all up.

Stepan - Christensen - Gaborik
Prospal -Dubinsky - MZA
Callahan - Kreider - Grachev
Boogard - Anisimov - Avery

Staal - Girardi
MDZ - McD
Sauer - Roszival

If we're gunna suck, let's at least make it fun.


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07-02-2010, 08:55 AM
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F it. Let's bring them all up.

Stepan - Christensen - Gaborik
Prospal -Anisimov - MZA
Callahan - Kreider - Grachev
Boogard - Anisimov - Avery

Staal - Girardi
MDZ - McD
Sauer - Roszival

If we're gunna suck, let's at least make it fun.
haha, i know what you mean

I actually think Stepan, Kreider, Grachev will be ready next yr which creates a big log jam. who the heck goes? Do they just trade guys for picks or put a package together?

regardless it will be fun watching these kids and the young Dmen develop

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07-02-2010, 08:58 AM
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F it. Let's bring them all up.

Stepan - Christensen - Gaborik
Prospal -Anisimov - MZA
Callahan - Kreider - Grachev
Boogard - Anisimov - Avery

Staal - Girardi
MDZ - McD
Sauer - Roszival

If we're gunna suck, let's at least make it fun.
You've turned Dubinsky into a clone of Anisimov?

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07-02-2010, 09:00 AM
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You've turned Dubinsky into a clone of Anisimov?
Actually, I converted Dubinsky into a groupie in hopes of increasing his scoring. But fine, I'll slot him back in the 2nd line.

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07-02-2010, 09:02 AM
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seriously i think were going to be god awful next year and if it were up to me this would be the line-up i would've thrown out there....
dubi-anisimov-gabby
kreider-stepan-grachev (let them develop chemistry)
avery-drury-callahan
prust-boyle-boogaard

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07-02-2010, 09:07 AM
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F it. Let's bring them all up.

Stepan - Christensen - Gaborik
Prospal -Dubinsky - MZA
Callahan - Kreider - Grachev
Boogard - Anisimov - Avery

Staal - Girardi
MDZ - McD
Sauer - Roszival

If we're gunna suck, let's at least make it fun.
I'm not sure how this makes it fun? besides possibly stunting the development of your youth by putting too many of them in positions they're not ready for, basically setting them up to fail. WOO HOO!

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07-02-2010, 09:09 AM
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You people take me way too seriously.

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07-02-2010, 10:36 AM
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I don't like the idea of Krieder going from College, then maybe a brief stint in the AHL, to the NHL after next season. I believe the gap between College and the AHL is greater than the AHL and NHL, especially in the mental aspect of the game, an area many believe he needs the most development. If they can get him minutes in Hartford, and feel he is ready, I'm for it. Get him all of this year, part of next, and then maybe a mid-season call-up. I'm sure he will dominate in college if he goes back, but maybe he's ready for the next step.

With Grachev, Anisimov had only 43 points in his first AHL season, and exploded the following year. Grachev, from what I understand, was given limited opportunity last year. Reminds me of how Lisin is treated here. People are comparing his numbers as if everyone's "Games Played" were equal. If you accounted for minutes played, and the qualify of those minutes, the view would be different.

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07-02-2010, 10:55 AM
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If the team thinks he's ready, then he's ready.

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If the team thinks he's ready, then he's ready.
Right, because they've never rushed players before.

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07-02-2010, 11:05 AM
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Right, because they've never rushed players before.
I think it's fair to say they're in a better position to make that call than we are.

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07-02-2010, 11:08 AM
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I think it's fair to say they're in a better position to make that call than we are.
I think there are more than few people on here who would be way ahead on a point system if we put them head to head with the Rangers brain trust.

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Right, because they've never rushed players before.
Who was the last player that they rushed? Manny Malholtra, Jamie Lundmark? Name one guy recently who they've rushed.

The Rangers have handled their prospects well for quite some time now and have probably been more conservative than most teams out there. MDZ & Staal are the two and only prospects that I can remember in who knows how long who made it straight from Juniors to the Rangers. They sure didn't suffer from being "rushed." I dont' expect Kreider to make the big team, but if they feel that he can play in the AHL, then I trust them.

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07-02-2010, 12:12 PM
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One more year in college, let him get decent minutes this time around on the top 2 lines and develop his game a bit more. Then go into the WJCs and captain the team to another championship.

I see no reason to turn him pro so soon.

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#NYRangers 2009 first-rounder Chris Kreider has strong prospect camp, doesn't sound ready to leave Boston College.

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Definitely seems reasonable. He had a great year last year but also has so much room for growth this year, if I were him I'd be feeling like I wanted to go back and score a **** ton of gold and points and lead BC back to the title, and the USA back to WJC gold

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I wonder if you can study collage in college

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07-02-2010, 09:39 PM
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Maybe next year this is possible:

Dubinsky - Stepan - Gaborik
Kreider - Anisimov - Zuccarello
Avery - Drury - Callahan
Boogaard - Grachev - Prust

Staal - Girardi
Del Zotto - Rozsival
McDonagh - Gilroy

Lundqvist
Biron

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