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07-02-2010, 04:47 PM
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Smithson is a better option for 4th line center / PK specialist than anyone currently in Milwaukee.

Thats debatable.....Ben Guite (Vet), Thuersson plays a gritty style, but what Im statin is that id like to see someone take over that so someone can slide up in the roster, Bcuz Smithson had to prove himself at one point so let someone else prove themselves, until thn we somehow now have a logjam at center so time will tell what we do

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Thats debatable.....Ben Guite (Vet), Thuersson plays a gritty style, but what Im statin is that id like to see someone take over that so someone can slide up in the roster, Bcuz Smithson had to prove himself at one point so let someone else prove themselves, until thn we somehow now have a logjam at center so time will tell what we do
Guite is a UFA and will not be re-signed. He also failed miserably in his time here last season. Thuresson is a winger and still a year away from full-time NHL duty.

As for our glut of centers...we had 7-8 centers last year on the roster. We have centers that can play wing. It'll work out. Poile certainly isn't done though because now he has WAY TOO MUCH depth.

I believe with this signing we are a stronger team now than we were at this time last year...

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Combine two Poile moves: he traded Jason Arnott for a prospect, 2nd rounder and Matthew Lombardi. Plus, he saved $1 million off his budget
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Thats debatable.....Ben Guite (Vet), Thuersson plays a gritty style, but what Im statin is that id like to see someone take over that so someone can slide up in the roster, Bcuz Smithson had to prove himself at one point so let someone else prove themselves, until thn we somehow now have a logjam at center so time will tell what we do
Did you watch Guite last season? There's a reason why he's a UFA again. Thuresson is a winger who doesn't do well when he needs to take a draw.

What Smithson does better than anyone we have in Nashville or Milwaukee is win the short handed draws. It's one of the same things that makes Nichol so successful and what we missed once Scooter left. In 08-09 we had the capacity to ice two sets of PK forwards who could win draws consistently.

Bringing in Lombardi makes Cal expendable. Sulzer is expendable. If not for fan popularity ... Tootoo would be expendable.

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Stronger offensively, but still don't need Klein and Cube playing 17+ a night.

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Guite is a UFA and will not be re-signed. He also failed miserably in his time here last season. Thuresson is a winger and still a year away from full-time NHL duty.

As for our glut of centers...we had 7-8 centers last year on the roster. We have centers that can play wing. It'll work out. Poile certainly isn't done though because now he has WAY TOO MUCH depth.

I believe with this signing we are a stronger team now than we were at this time last year...
Ok ok i wasnt bashin smitty or anything i just like change, it shows effort to improve. So Guite's outta the picture then i guess which will let blake G, Mike Santo and whoever else eat extra minutes while developing in the minors (assuming they stay down), yea i no Thuerssons a winger but in our lineup a forward is a forward in most cases. And i could see spaling maybe getting a good look at 4th center but im not Trotz nor is anyone else either way i think our PK wouldnt take a major a hit if we lost smitty because leggy is the best forechecker/backcheker on our team who can kill a penalty no problem most the time.
And yea i love the signing today it was a very good deal on our part and we definitely came out a better team today as of now.....

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Stronger offensively, but still don't need Klein and Cube playing 17+ a night.
Agreed. I'd prioritize adding a veteran defenseman over a backup goalie if given the chance right now without hesitating. Rinne is solid in net and we have depth behind him, although it is untested. We are too young and unproven beyond Weber-Suter for my liking...

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Agreed. I'd prioritize adding a veteran defenseman over a backup goalie if given the chance right now without hesitating. Rinne is solid in net and we have depth behind him, although it is untested. We are too young and unproven beyond Weber-Suter for my liking...
Does playing Suter and Weber like Pronger - Nieds (separate and about 30 minutes) counteract that.

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Ok ok i wasnt bashin smitty or anything i just like change, it shows effort to improve. So Guite's outta the picture then i guess which will let blake G, Mike Santo and whoever else eat extra minutes while developing in the minors (assuming they stay down), yea i no Thuerssons a winger but in our lineup a forward is a forward in most cases. And i could see spaling maybe getting a good look at 4th center but im not Trotz nor is anyone else either way i think our PK wouldnt take a major a hit if we lost smitty because leggy is the best forechecker/backcheker on our team who can kill a penalty no problem most the time.
And yea i love the signing today it was a very good deal on our part and we definitely came out a better team today as of now.....
Change for the sake of change doesn't show "effort to improve" ... it shows a lack of a plan and leads to chaos. Look at the teams that are constantly changing coaches and have a regular turnover in personnel and notice that they usually suck.

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Change for the sake of change doesn't show "effort to improve" ... it shows a lack of a plan and leads to chaos. Look at the teams that are constantly changing coaches and have a regular turnover in personnel and notice that they usually suck.

Whats the definition of chaos? 5 first round exits? im not saying that is chaos but whats worse than losing? And Im not asking for Poile to start from scratch but everyone on a hockey team should be an interchangeable part not relying on one person for a certain thing and yes i understand people have roles on a team but idk change is sometimes good, we'll see how Chicago deals with it next year but im sure theyll do just fine

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Whats the definition of chaos? 5 first round exits? im not saying that is chaos but whats worse than losing? And Im not asking for Poile to start from scratch but everyone on a hockey team should be an interchangeable part not relying on one person for a certain thing and yes i understand people have roles on a team but idk change is sometimes good, we'll see how Chicago deals with it next year but im sure theyll do just fine
For Chicago to get the draft picks it needed to win the Cup ... how many years of terrible finishes did they endure. The Hawks are in serious trouble since they exceeded the cap last season. They have less than $4mil in cap space with only 14 players ... and Niemi isn't one of them.

While first round exits are frustrating for fans ... I'd take that over missing the playoffs in 5 out of 6 years any time.

If you're going to move a player, their replacement needs to have the requisite skills to fill the job. Thuresson and Spaling don't. Legwand lacks the ability to win faceoffs that Smithson has.

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Sullivan - Wilson - Hornqvist
Erat - Legwand - Kostitsyn
Ward - Lombardi - Dumont
Andersson - Goc - Smithson
O'Reilly/Tootoo/Belak

Milwaukee
Spaling
Santorelli

Somebody's gotta go. . .

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For Chicago to get the draft picks it needed to win the Cup ... how many years of terrible finishes did they endure. The Hawks are in serious trouble since they exceeded the cap last season. They have less than $4mil in cap space with only 14 players ... and Niemi isn't one of them.

While first round exits are frustrating for fans ... I'd take that over missing the playoffs in 5 out of 6 years any time.

If you're going to move a player, their replacement needs to have the requisite skills to fill the job. Thuresson and Spaling don't. Legwand lacks the ability to win faceoffs that Smithson has.
In the 6th year does my team when the cup?

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It really is three #2 lines. . .

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Sullivan - Wilson - Hornqvist
Erat - Legwand - Kostitsyn
Ward - Lombardi - Dumont
Andersson - Goc - Smithson
O'Reilly/Tootoo/Belak

Milwaukee
Spaling
Santorelli

Somebody's gotta go. . .
Yeah and that dude we got from New Jersey, right? I thought he was NHL ready too?

I like you're lines, I'd flip Legwand and Lombardi though.

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In the 6th year does my team when the cup?
Nope. It used to be your team, but now it's playing in Winnipeg.

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For Chicago to get the draft picks it needed to win the Cup ... how many years of terrible finishes did they endure. The Hawks are in serious trouble since they exceeded the cap last season. They have less than $4mil in cap space with only 14 players ... and Niemi isn't one of them.

While first round exits are frustrating for fans ... I'd take that over missing the playoffs in 5 out of 6 years any time.

If you're going to move a player, their replacement needs to have the requisite skills to fill the job. Thuresson and Spaling don't. Legwand lacks the ability to win faceoffs that Smithson has.
We as an organization cant afford to have terrible finishes as that might cost us our team in the long run and that to me isnt an option. And I think Spaling is just as physical as Smitty and has that PK ability in him but just my 2 cents. And Leggy's FO's arent as bad as you would think so if Smithsons has a better percentage its probably due to the fact he took a good amount of faceoffs less than leggy. And thats stating the obvious about the playoffs its just all about execution and we have failed to do that in our playoff series so far. Im not diasppointed just a little impatient on this whole process.

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Some Preds fans will never understand how important Legwand is to this team. It gets on my last damn nerve when preds fans bag on him

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We as an organization cant afford to have terrible finishes as that might cost us our team in the long run and that to me isnt an option. And I think Spaling is just as physical as Smitty and has that PK ability in him but just my 2 cents. And Leggy's FO's arent as bad as you would think so if Smithsons has a better percentage its probably due to the fact he took a good amount of faceoffs less than leggy. And thats stating the obvious about the playoffs its just all about execution and we have failed to do that in our playoff series so far. Im not diasppointed just a little impatient on this whole process.
Short handed faceoffs
Legwand 58 won 81 lost
Smithson 72 won 56 lost

A difference of 11 faceoffs on the PK between the two, but look at the percentage difference. Spaling was 41% overall ... 0 for 7 on the PK. Right now there is a round peg in a round hole ... you keep proposing squares, triangles, ovals, and rectangles to fill it.

There's a reason why Smithson and Legwand work well as PK duo ... Smitty can win the faceoffs and both are good defensively.

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Very pleased with this signing. I would say that's our big splash, unless Dumont and or prospects are moved.

I like what Lombardi brings to our roster. Not the sniper we've all dreamed of, but this guy has wheels. Adding two speedy players in him and SK will open the ice for some creativity, which I feel our offense lacks at times.

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Seriously, I need to step away from the computer more. I was going away expecting SLIGHT moves not this. And the forward competition is going to be insane.

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Very pleased with this signing. I would say that's our big splash, unless Dumont and or prospects are moved.

I like what Lombardi brings to our roster. Not the sniper we've all dreamed of, but this guy has wheels. Adding two speedy players in him and SK will open the ice for some creativity, which I feel our offense lacks at times.
Lombardi actually gives the team an option of trying Legwand on the wing again. A line with a lot of speed and responsible in both ends ... intriguing.

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Lombardi actually gives the team an option of trying Legwand on the wing again. A line with a lot of speed and responsible in both ends ... intriguing.

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We can go with Wilson up the middle with Erat and Legwand on the wings followed by a Lombardi, Hornqvist, Sully combo and then a Goc line with Dumont and SK on the wings.

I really like this move. If SK signs with us, which appears to be the case, we are not sexy up front but we have a lot of depth and options to find three lines that can get it done. Heck, Ward, who a lot of us like doesn't crack the top 9 now. That sucks for him but I really like the depth we have now up front. Adding SK and Lombardi has given us a lot of our speed back. I am digging that too.

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Good player, but I would have preferred that money to be spent on more of a pure goal scorer, but beggars cannot be choosers at this point.

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