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07-02-2010, 02:58 PM
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I guess I'm missing something, but I don't understand why everyone is so eager to trade Dumont. Hasn't he consistently been one of the leading point producers on the team since arriving in Nashville? He has a propensity to get caught with his head down and take some big hits, yeah, and he can be a defensive liability but he's one of the best offensive talents on the team. If you're looking for more offense, Dumont doesn't seem like the best guy to be getting rid of...
I think the issue is how much money he's costing, and the feeling that the team can be further ahead by off-loading Dumont's salary and using that plus some of the money saved on Arnott's removal on a more bona fide offensive threat.

But for that to happen, I think you'll need to find a team with cap space and budget, and then throw in a good prospect/pick or two for them to agree to take on Dumont's salary and give you a good scorer in return.

It's doable, but you're more likely to find those types of teams trolling the bottom and I'm not sure Dumont would agree to go there.

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07-02-2010, 03:27 PM
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I like most of what your stating with the lines. But Legwand and Erat doesn't mix at all. Will Trotz play Dumont on a top 6 line? He doesn't actually like him. I like him but it's time for him to move on if he would ok it. You like Legwand a lot more than I do. I agree trading O'Reilly. He's a poor man's Sully with no scoring touch. I think a pkg of O'Reilly and Franson would bring something worth bringing back. Then Blum and Laasko and Sulzer could fill in for Franson who is way too slow.
Erat and Legwand don't mix when there isn't that 3rd member of the line who can contribute. Erat and Legwand put up career numbers on a line together when Kariya was on the other side.

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Crap ... now to figure out where Lombardi fits.

Kostitsyn/Lombardi/Legwand? Leggy did well during the short lived experiment with him on the wing.

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07-02-2010, 04:10 PM
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Crap ... now to figure out where Lombardi fits.

Kostitsyn/Lombardi/Legwand? Leggy did well during the short lived experiment with him on the wing.
I too have to think about this...we are super deep now. Poile is not done. O'Reilly is clearly now on the trade block...

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We really need a back up goalie now, and I'd feel better with soeone to eat up 2nd defensive pairing minutes.

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What a log jam up front. I'm having trouble seeing the lines, as we lack a shut-down line. Perhaps we roll four two-way lines, without a traditional shut-down line. O'Reilly and Tootoo are the guys who stick out in my opinion. Surely O'Reilly is gone (likely on waivers). Tootoo is the interesting case, but with us re-signing him, I doubt he is traded. Is Dumont on his way out?

Not a bad problem to have. Lets not forget Klasen, if that guy adapts well, lookout... from the youtube highlight videos, he has the best hands on our team.

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What a log jam up front. I'm having trouble seeing the lines, as we lack a shut-down line. Perhaps we roll four two-way lines, without a traditional shut-down line. O'Reilly and Tootoo are the guys who stick out in my opinion. Surely O'Reilly is gone (likely on waivers). Tootoo is the interesting case, but with us re-signing him, I doubt he is traded. Is Dumont on his way out?

Not a bad problem to have. Lets not forget Klasen, if that guy adapts well, lookout... from the youtube highlight videos, he has the best hands on our team.
I agree, but I think O'Reilly is now trade bait to get us that veteran defenseman...maybe being packaged with one of our D prospects or a pick.

Also, judging by this quote off the Predators website...it's not Klasen, it's finding a spot for Andersson.

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The Predators signed Jonas Andersson with the exprectations that he will help the NHL squad next season. Where Linus Klasen was signed with the understanding that he may need to open the season in the AHL before he makes the jump to the NHL, with Andersson the expectation is for him to win a spot out of training camp.
http://predators.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=533500

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I agree, but I think O'Reilly is now trade bait to get us that veteran defenseman...maybe being packaged with one of our D prospects or a pick.

Also, judging by this quote off the Predators website...it's not Klasen, it's finding a spot for Andersson.



http://predators.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=533500
I know it is probably Andersson they're pegging for a spot, but what I was saying is that if Klasen adapts quick and impresses he could be another guy fighting for a spot. Maybe I'm just wishing he could pull off some of this stuff here in NA: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-R1t4m3LQSo

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I know if I'm Smithson, I'm worried right now.

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I know if I'm Smithson, I'm worried right now.
Smithson has zero offensive upside, but, he is one hell of a grinder and PK specialist.

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I know if I'm Smithson, I'm worried right now.
Very well stated.

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Moved from Lombardi thread...

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Sullivan - Wilson - Hornqvist
Erat - Legwand - Kostitsyn
Ward - Lombardi - Dumont
Andersson - Goc - Smithson
O'Reilly/Tootoo/Belak

Milwaukee
Spaling
Santorelli

Somebody's gotta go. . .

I agree. Several problems:
1. Andersson on the 4th line is a waste for both he and the team. 3rd or go home.
2. Goc centering the 4th instead of Smithson is a waste.
3. Cal O' has no place to go.
4. Kostitsyn is a setup guy who will be passing to two guys that won't shoot.
5. Lombardi is too fast for Ward
6. Tootoo has no spot.
7. Erat-Legwand should only share ice in the pre-game and for the post-game salute.
8. Spaling looks ready and has no spot.

Really, I like the parts that we have a lot but this lineup is a mess.

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Trade Dumont (pray he will waive nmc) and use the $ to bolster defense.
Trade CalO' for whatever you can get. Throw in Santo or relegate to AHL.
Partner Lombardi and Kostitsyn for speed... I'd probably like them to have Sully rather than Erat but Leggy can't have Erat.... fix that later...S-Lo-K it is.
Erat on the 2nd line with Wilson... and Hornqvist. E-W-H
That leaves Leggy with Ward and and Andersson W-L-A
I can't solve Goc on the 4th line unless we fail to sign Kotitsyn and Wilson plays wing... so we have T-G-S

Sully-Lombardi- Kostitsyn
Erat-Wilson-Hornqvist
Ward-Legwand-Andersson
Tootoo-Goc-Smithson
Spaling/Belak

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I agree. Several problems:
1. Andersson on the 4th line is a waste for both he and the team. 3rd or go home.
2. Goc centering the 4th instead of Smithson is a waste.
3. Cal O' has no place to go.
4. Kostitsyn is a setup guy who will be passing to two guys that won't shoot.
5. Lombardi is too fast for Ward
6. Tootoo has no spot.
7. Erat-Legwand should only share ice in the pre-game and for the post-game salute.
8. Spaling looks ready and has no spot.

Really, I like the parts that we have a lot but this lineup is a mess.

Some thoughts:

Trade Dumont (pray he will waive nmc) and use the $ to bolster defense.
Trade CalO' for whatever you can get. Throw in Santo or relegate to AHL.
Partner Lombardi and Kostitsyn for speed... I'd probably like them to have Sully rather than Erat but Leggy can't have Erat.... fix that later...S-Lo-K it is.
Erat on the 2nd line with Wilson... and Hornqvist. E-W-H
That leaves Leggy with Ward and and Andersson W-L-A
I can't solve Goc on the 4th line unless we fail to sign Kotitsyn and Wilson plays wing... so we have T-G-S

Sully-Lombardi- Kostitsyn
Erat-Wilson-Hornqvist
Ward-Legwand-Andersson
Tootoo-Goc-Smithson
Spaling/Belak
Dumont has one season with less than 65 points as a Pred and the calls are out to send him packing. Using that logic, everybody should be gone.

Spaling is on a two way EL deal ... he can mature in Milwaukee longer if he doesn't clearly win a spot on the roster.

Tootoo is overpaid for his performance on this team. Either he improves or he is expendable.

Belak won't see the ice on this roster.

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What the hell Dave, lets make a run at Gagne!

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What the hell Dave, lets make a run at Gagne!
I'd honestly love to sign our RFA's now ... like tomorrow & then start on the extensions for Suter & Weber

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Dumont has one season with less than 65 points as a Pred and the calls are out to send him packing. Using that logic, everybody should be gone.
Trotz already has him penciled into the 4th line, which suggests that isn't the only problem. He is the most expensive top 9 option that we have that appears to not be part of the core... seems like trade material to me.

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Spaling is on a two way EL deal ... he can mature in Milwaukee longer if he doesn't clearly win a spot on the roster.
Agree but he is a cheaper, likely better, option than other forwards on a 1-way deal. I don't mind him being in the ahl though.

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Tootoo is overpaid for his performance on this team. Either he improves or he is expendable.
Agree again but how long do we give him and who gets shipped out while we are waiting?


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Belak won't see the ice on this roster.
One part of the lineup that is 100% positive-- his place in the press box is fixed.


Oh, and I remember Legwand-Erat on a line that worked. I also saw Denis Arkhipov score 20 goals but enough subsequent evidence made it clear I'd never see it again.

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I think the player that should be traded should be Joel Ward. I love Wardo but he could get a larger return than a Smithson and could save a bit of money which is always a plus for this organization.

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I'd honestly love to sign our RFA's now ... like tomorrow & then start on the extensions for Suter & Weber
cant start on suters extension until summer 2011.

Poile has said he will start on webers in camp this fall so he can negotiate in person.

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cant start on suters extension until summer 2011.

Poile has said he will start on webers in camp this fall so he can negotiate in person.
oops ... forgot about that

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Sullivan - Wilson - Hornqvist
Kostitsyn - Legwand - Erat
Andersson - Lombardi - Dumont
Tootoo - Goc - Ward

Smithson/Belak

Weber - Suter
Klein - Bouillon
Franson - Parent

Rinne
Dekanich/FA

Puts us around $48 million.. surely we'd have to move salary.

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Sullivan - Wilson - Hornqvist
Kostitsyn - Legwand - Erat
Andersson - Lombardi - Dumont
Ward - Goc - Tootoo
Klasen - Thuresson - Halischuk


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my guess


Sullivan - Wilson - Dumont
Kostitsyn - Lombardi - Erat
Andersson - Legwand - someone not on the roster
Tootoo - Goc - Ward
Smithson/Belak

Weber - Suter
Klein - Bouillon
Blum - Parent
sulzer

Rinne
Dekanich


2 things are missing...and i think both are dealt. gut feeling. no source on this one

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Klasen and Halishuk are both going to get long looks in the NHL this year, IMHO.
I don't think local boy can be held down long.

Smithson is gone, Spaling, Dumont and O'Reilly better be ready in camp....

My project line-up......

Sullivan-Wilson-Dumont(better step it up!) (think this line is 3rd in minutes)
Ward/Anderson-Legwand-Erat
Kostitsyn-Lombardi-Hornvist
Anderson/Ward-Goc-Tootoo/Klasen/Halishuk

I think Ward is on notice because he seems to play inconsistant and Anderson could replace him.

I think Tootoo better not be a one trick pony this season. Maybe he should work on killing penalties. Right now, looks like he could be a healthy scratch alot...

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I think the player that should be traded should be Joel Ward. I love Wardo but he could get a larger return than a Smithson and could save a bit of money which is always a plus for this organization.
I was thinking the same thing.

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Klasen and Halishuk are both going to get long looks in the NHL this year, IMHO.
I don't think local boy can be held down long.

Smithson is gone, Spaling, Dumont and O'Reilly better be ready in camp....

My project line-up......

Sullivan-Wilson-Dumont(better step it up!) (think this line is 3rd in minutes)
Ward/Anderson-Legwand-Erat
Kostitsyn-Lombardi-Hornvist
Anderson/Ward-Goc-Tootoo/Klasen/Halishuk

I think Ward is on notice because he seems to play inconsistant and Anderson could replace him.

I think Tootoo better not be a one trick pony this season. Maybe he should work on killing penalties. Right now, looks like he could be a healthy scratch alot...
I agree except for Spaling. He impressed the staff a lot last year, got a taste of the NHL, should be ready to go. They also picked up Halishuck in the Arnott deal and he and Spaling player together in the OHL together so Poile must've liked the chemistry they had. Not saying he doesn't need to be ready, he does, but I think he's the one guy that's safe among that group.

I think Dumont is going to come back refreshed this year. I looked at his stats the other day and forgot, he's been over 60 points for 3 of his 4 seasons here and once hit 70. Last year was his first "down" year. I'm betting, if he's here, that he raises his game back up. I think he's a team guy but he's also a prideful guy. He gets back to the 65-70 point range and we have a very solid team.

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