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07-03-2010, 08:52 AM
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I hope you're right on Dumont. I know he loves Nashville and plans on retiring here, much like Sullivan.

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I hope you're right on Dumont. I know he loves Nashville and plans on retiring here, much like Sullivan.
I hope I am too....lol.

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I think Dumont is going to come back refreshed this year. I looked at his stats the other day and forgot, he's been over 60 points for 3 of his 4 seasons here and once hit 70. Last year was his first "down" year. I'm betting, if he's here, that he raises his game back up. I think he's a team guy but he's also a prideful guy. He gets back to the 65-70 point range and we have a very solid team.
This is what I am thinking, too. Last season almost looked like there was a void between Dumont and the team, he didn't look like he felt welcome (merely an observation, could be incorrect), was of the opinion that it was from the Capt, but again, who really knows. I think getting hurt in the first game, and the way it happened might have contributed to this, but again, mere speculation.

I'm betting he comes back and is the player we threw some money at. I also don't make too much of the Trotz comment in the paper, figure it's just his way of lighting a fire under Dumont. Don't see Trotz do much of that with vets.

I've always really like Smithson (as a 4th liner) and his flair for creative profanity is supposed to be top-notch, but I do think he's on borrowed time. Kinda feel the same way about Ward. Like him, glad he turned into a good player, but afraid he might get squeezed out soon.

Also, if I'm Tootoo, I'd be watching penalty-killing film from now until mid-September. I'm a fan, and hate that he's seemingly lost his edge while curtailing his antics, but he might wanna learn how to kill penalties. Quick. With his speed, strength and tenacity seems he would be the perfect penalty killer. Probably needs to add a new move to his repertoire or he will get lost in the shuffle, too.

I think we need to move a few odd-men out for a back-up (Ellis-type, in a system with no room) and head into the season.

There are people that feel if we waive O'Reilly that he will "Peverly" us, and are worried about it? Really? Wow, if we're so insecure as a fan base that we're afraid of losing him (no offense Cal, it's just reality) maybe it's time to hit the spike all the drinks at the arena with St. John's Wort.


Have to say, I'm really impressed with a few of the things Poile has pulled off this off-season, and trading Arnott was fantastic. Honestly, can't believe we got lucky enough to find him a new home. Reminds me of the Mason trade. Felt like somebody handed us a key to the handcuffs.

Sorry so long, kinda got wordy there, but it's morning, my thought don't really line up till about noon.

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I think the player that should be traded should be Joel Ward. I love Wardo but he could get a larger return than a Smithson and could save a bit of money which is always a plus for this organization.
I could definitely see something like that happening. The question is, where would he go?

Looking over the salary landscape, a team like Calgary or Philadelphia is most likely to be interested in O'Reilly, especially Calgary, who will look to add more offense while clearing out cap space and a roster spot for Ian White. Unfortunately, I'm not sure we can take on one of their big-ticket players like Sarich or Staios, partly because neither is really all that good for the money (Sarich isn't a bad defenseman, but he's a penalty magnet). Toronto would also be a good fit, but again, we'd have to take on a substantial contract.

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I had an itch, more a thought that had no substance, no texture and I just couldn't get it out of my mind. I KNEW that this roster is not done. I KNEW but the fact is there was so many players fighting for roster spots. So many rumors of salary contraction. So many permutations that make sense but not quite enough talent. So, I decided to go for a walk and bring my laptop with me to farm a wifi. I park in front of the public library where I was going to walk and I see the Lombardi signing. Well that itch was scratched. Pure and simple, Whiskey, Tango, Foxtrot. No, Zulu, Omega, Micheal, Gamma.

The center is stacked; Wilson, Legwand, Lombardi, O'Reilly, Smithson, Spaling, Goc. Wings of opportunity; Sully, Erat, Dumont, Kostitsyn, Ward, Andersson, Hornqvist, Tootoo, Belak. Prospects; Halischuk, Santorelli and Santorelli the second, Geoffrion, Klasen, Thuresson.

I have been going nuts, absolutely nuts trying to figure out this roster and depth chart. Which really should be a futile effort when you are talking about the Barry Trotz roster slot machine. The Lombardi signing actually solidifies things. So let's start the exercise, let's build from the middle out.

Center one: Wilson (I still think he's the pick at the #1 line but Lombardi could push him)
Center two: Lombardi (He will be pushed by Legwand but Lombardi will be a better fit for #2 BUT there may be a 101st permutation to this.)
Center three: Legwand or O'Reilly or Goc
Center four: Goc or Smithson

There are some many permutations and manipulations which can happen. I think this puts a big Trade target on O'Reilly and Dumont. I think Goc is in play. I think Smithson is in play if Spaling is ready. Andersson and Kostitsyn REALLY better bring their A-game because they BOTH could be on the American West shuttle to the Land of Harleys and Beer. Legwand could be shifted to wing and pair with Lombardi to create a speed kills line. Yes, this team has a look of 3 #2 scoring lines......or what is scary for the NHL, 2 YOUNG #1's and a #2 line with an energy line. If Poile hits with Andersson or Kostitsyn, Jebus.

Defense could use a vet defenseman. And of course both Laakso and Sulzer are trade bait. If Nashville can get an under million defenseman, that works. I expect a 5-6 defenseman but if Poile pulls another rabbit out of his hat and gets a 3-4 dman, we are not talking about a team that is hurting, we are talking about a team that is BETTER than last year's team which pushed the Hawks.

Weber-Suter (25-30 minutes a game)
Klein-Boullion (20 minutes a game)
Franson-Parent (10-15 minutes a game. PP and PK specialists)

The new itch in my mind is the idea of 101st speed line. Andersson's rep is big and fast, just like Legwand, just like Lombardi.

Now that I think I'm gonna say it, Sully is in play if Kostitsyn hits, too. He's on the last year of his contract and if Kostitsyn hits that's a 20 goal scorer. Of course Kostitsyn might just say, "I'm going to Europe" and that opens a BIG roster spot in the lineup and Nashville get's another guy playing in Europa with their rights written all over it.

I'm going to TRY to build a team with what the Preds have now:

Hornqvist-Wilson-Sully
Legwand-Lombardi-Erat (Too tempting not to try)
Andersson/Kostitsyn-O'Reilly-Dumont (Who honestly knows?)
Smithson-Goc-Ward
Belak-Tootoo

Yeah someone is going. Tootoo will not be going to sit in the press box. Now the question is WHAT are the players traded for? Could O'Reilly be traded for a vet backup goalie? How many picks can the Preds score for their players? They have a metric **** ton of 2nd rounders how many 1st can they score? How about a cheap vet defenseman on a trade? If anything, picks are the only major need because if Nashville trades a player for player they still have the depth issues. I think if Dumont is traded Legwand shifts to wing. If O'Reilly is traded Legwand shifts to center. Training camp could be phenominal The Preds take the winners and the losers traded off for picks and little tweeks to the roster. So many possiblities. So many chances for opportunity.

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Again, if that happens we are in trouble. You might like Bouillion but the fact is, he's 35 and has never even come close to 18 minutes a night much less 20. He is a bottom pairing defenseman that can eat 15 minutes and not kill you, that's about it, he's not getting better at 35. Hell just playing a full season without being a healthy scratch is new to him.

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Again, if that happens we are in trouble. You might like Bouillion but the fact is, he's 35 and has never even come close to 18 minutes a night much less 20. He is a bottom pairing defenseman that can eat 15 minutes and not kill you, that's about it, he's not getting better at 35. Hell just playing a full season without being a healthy scratch is new to him.
Oh I agree. I'm just posting what I think the PLAN is but frankly with the 8 billion forwards on the list I expect a trade for a vet defenseman. I wouldn't even be shocked if Nashville made a serious stupid play for Sourey and traded Dumont and another forward for Sourey. Let's say, oh Dumont, O'Reilly, and Sulzer for Sourey. And then trading or signing a VERY cheap Vet Goalie.

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No SK

I'm going on record here. I don't want Poile to sign SK.

He has had issues with every team he has been on in NA. Read the Montreal boards. I don't want us spending our precious cash on a well known problem child. We did Montreal a favor by taking him off their hands. So they owe us one, okay. He is not worth the headache. Nashville as a city will not interest him at all. He will be bored and unhappy because no one will recognize him. We don't have anyone on the team who speaks Russian as far as I know. He will not accept anything less than 1st line minutes and will pout when he doesn't get them. Let him go to the KHL, be a god there and leave our team in peace.

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I hope we do not make a move til the end of training camp. Yes we have loads of depth but remember last year we had a slew of groin injuries. If we have no injuries we can try to fleece a team that had several and give them a foward or with the injuries just stand pat during the season.

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I hope we do not make a move til the end of training camp. Yes we have loads of depth but remember last year we had a slew of groin injuries. If we have no injuries we can try to fleece a team that had several and give them a foward or with the injuries just stand pat during the season.
That was from the new testing they did. I don't think they will be doing that again.

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I'm going on record here. I don't want Poile to sign SK.

He has had issues with every team he has been on in NA. Read the Montreal boards. I don't want us spending our precious cash on a well known problem child. We did Montreal a favor by taking him off their hands. So they owe us one, okay. He is not worth the headache. Nashville as a city will not interest him at all. He will be bored and unhappy because no one will recognize him. We don't have anyone on the team who speaks Russian as far as I know. He will not accept anything less than 1st line minutes and will pout when he doesn't get them. Let him go to the KHL, be a god there and leave our team in peace.
Unfortunately, you are probably right. Seems like a lot of Russians (I'm going to lump SK into that group though I know he's Belarussian) are prima donnas. And if there is one thing Trotz will not tolerate is a prima donna. Trotz will call him out in the papers for not producing. Then put him on the fourth line with Belak. The next thing we know, Kostitsyn is flying to Russia and playing on a line with Rads.

We are all overly optimistic right now. Everyone is taking the best case scenarios and trying to determine lines based on ALL of our additions playing their BEST game. We have a ton of forwards who have lots of potential. But one or two won't pan out. Most likely SK, and possibly Andersson. Lombardi has missed a bit of ice time due to injuries. We'll have injuries and cry-babies. What does this team look like then????

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I'm going on record here. I don't want Poile to sign SK.

He has had issues with every team he has been on in NA. Read the Montreal boards. I don't want us spending our precious cash on a well known problem child. We did Montreal a favor by taking him off their hands. So they owe us one, okay. He is not worth the headache. Nashville as a city will not interest him at all. He will be bored and unhappy because no one will recognize him. We don't have anyone on the team who speaks Russian as far as I know. He will not accept anything less than 1st line minutes and will pout when he doesn't get them. Let him go to the KHL, be a god there and leave our team in peace.
no offense, but you have no idea what you're talking about, and you are crazy if you think that Kost's history isn't a consideration for Poile and Trotz. Both have reportedly already spoken to him to let him know what's expected to him and gauge his expectations...and all involved are positive that it's going to be a good fit.

It's easy to read the rantings of a bunch of bitter Montreal fans that can only see one side...but just as many think that SK got a raw deal with the Habs. For whatever reason, Martin refused to give him a chance, sticking him on lower lines\PK duty despite the fact that he produced every time he was given a chance on a scoring line. It wasn't a matter of him stinking it up and not taking a demotion he deserved...it was a case of a rift between the player and the coach and having something that should have been handled privately dragged into the media.

Like him or not, SK likely has more skill than anyone not named Erat or Sullivan in the entire lineup...and we're not in a position to turn our noses up. If he doesn't work out...fine, he goes to the KHL, no harm done. If he does...we just got an exciting player with a ton of upside for nothing.

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At ease Neck. There is the consideration of SK's past. And frankly, with the influx of forwards if he does not sign with Nashville I would not be surprised or worried.

I'm the risktaker and I have been screaming for Poile to take a risk. This is a conservative risk as best. If he still is a problem the Preds cut him and send him to Milwaukee for his next step to Russia.

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My take on the lineup:

Erat Lombardi Hornqvist
Dumont Wilson Sullivan
Andersson Legwand Kostitsyn
Tootoo Goc Smithson

Trade Ward and O'Reilly, rotate in Belak\Spaling\Halischuk as needed

Suter Weber
Bouillon Klein
Parent Franson

Laakso

Trade Sulzer, rotate in Blum\Josi as necessary. Would like to see a depth d-man picked up as well.

Rinne
???(No one in Milwaukee is close to ready, sorry to say)

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At ease Neck. There is the consideration of SK's past. And frankly, with the influx of forwards if he does not sign with Nashville I would not be surprised or worried.

I'm the risktaker and I have been screaming for Poile to take a risk. This is a conservative risk as best. If he still is a problem the Preds cut him and send him to Milwaukee for his next step to Russia.
there is a consideration, but at the same time, there's a lot of people that are blowing up without all the facts, or at least only one version of the story. There's been an element sorely lacking in this team the past few seasons...we might finally be adding it back in, and people feel like we're cheating the Smithsons of the world by doing so.

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Heh, try a pu pu platter of 9 forwards; Lombardi, Wilson, Legwand, Sully, Dumont, Erat, Hornqvist, Andersson/Kostitsyn, Possibly Ward, Possibly Goc, Possibly O'Reilly.


4th line crucible with the losers of the top 9 battle; Smithson, Tootoo, Spaling, Halischuk, Thuresson, Geoffrion, Santorelli, Klasen.


A trade is coming. Who, I don't know? even if Andersson and Kostitsyn fall flat on their face the team has enough depth to absorb the loss.

At the very least, Milwaukee should be a contender for the Calder Cup.

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there is a consideration, but at the same time, there's a lot of people that are blowing up without all the facts, or at least only one version of the story. There's been an element sorely lacking in this team the past few seasons...we might finally be adding it back in, and people feel like we're cheating the Smithsons of the world by doing so.
Smithson is gone in my mind. Nothing against him but there are better and cheaper alternatives in Milwaukee for the 4th line.

Also I have Nashville at about 46 million and all the RFA's signing for a little more than QO's; Hornqvist 2.5 M, Kost .98 M, Parent .98 M, Franson .8 M

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Smithson is gone in my mind. Nothing against him but there are better and cheaper alternatives in Milwaukee for the 4th line.

Also I have Nashville at about 46 million and all the RFA's signing for a little more than QO's; Hornqvist 2.5 M, Kost .98 M, Parent .98 M, Franson .8 M
I don't think Smithson will be gone for this year. Reason------penalty killer. He's a proven commodity there, and that will save him.

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I don't think Smithson will be gone for this year. Reason------penalty killer. He's a proven commodity there, and that will save him.
In my mind these are the names who can be at risk of not having a spot.

Jonas Andersson
JP Dumont
Marcel Goc
Sergei Kostitsyn
Cal O'Reilly
Jerred Smithson
Nick Spaling
Alex Sulzer
Jordan Tootoo
Joel Ward

Parent fixes the PK hit from Hamhuis. Lomardi to the PP to fix the Arnott hit. Of the guys listed above the three who are the biggest (Potiential) goal producers are Dumont 17 last year, Kostitsyn (Who could be a 20 goal scorer) and believe it or not Joel Ward at 13. Tootoo is a pest at best he contributes NOTHING to the PP or PK. His benefits are intangibles. Sulzer is GONE. Smithson is gone if Spaling out plays him.

To me the battles are:

Smithson vs. Spaling, O'Reilly vs. Dumont and the spot left open goes to Legwand. Goc vs. Ward. Goc and Ward are on par with stats (Goc's 12G 18A vs. Ward's 13G 21A) Ward contributes more to the special teams with minute per game stats for both the PK and PP. Goc has the 52.1% FO%

Dumont could get a lot on the trade market but O'Reilly should be squeezed out in the center fight. Financially, Smithson is a push with Spaling. But Spaling is still on his EL and can go to Milwaukee.

I need to look at the stats more to get a definite conclusion.

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Neck, I do know what I am talking about thank you very much. Most Montreal fans were estatic that their GM got rid of SK. There are only a few who weren't happy. His issues are well documented. And it's very easy to tell someone what they want to hear when you have banished to equivalent of Siberia in the NHL. If he signs AND produces, I will eat my crow like a good girl but if not, I told you so.

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Neck, I do know what I am talking about thank you very much. Most Montreal fans were estatic that their GM got rid of SK. There are only a few who weren't happy. His issues are well documented. And it's very easy to tell someone what they want to hear when you have banished to equivalent of Siberia in the NHL. If he signs AND produces, I will eat my crow like a good girl but if not, I told you so.
I grew up in London and still follow the hometown KNIGHTS. When SK was with them (Kane, Gagne, Bolland were his main linemates), he was ZERO problem. The Hunter brothers definitely would not of put up with any crap from teenagers on their team. SK was indeed asked to play like a VW-Beetle, when he had a Mustang mantality in Montreal, and it POed him. Tell me another player who came into the league as a 100+ pt guy, and then produce in limited time with scoring linemates BUT gets the majority of his time with scrubs and PK duty? They'd be PO'ed too.

Put Kane or Gagne (his junior linemates) with 3rd/4th line checkers and restrict their PP time and see how they'd react after producing when given the chance with scoring forwards. Give SK a chance in a not-so-media pressurized environment with good structure/good teammates - I think you'll be surprised at how well he'll do with the Preds.

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I grew up in London and still follow the hometown KNIGHTS. When SK was with them (Kane, Gagne, Bolland were his main linemates), he was ZERO problem. The Hunter brothers definitely would not of put up with any crap from teenagers on their team. SK was indeed asked to play like a VW-Beetle, when he had a Mustang mantality in Montreal, and it POed him. Tell me another player who came into the league as a 100+ pt guy, and then produce in limited time with scoring linemates BUT gets the majority of his time with scrubs and PK duty? They'd be PO'ed too.

Put Kane or Gagne (his junior linemates) with 3rd/4th line checkers and restrict their PP time and see how they'd react after producing when given the chance with scoring forwards. Give SK a chance in a not-so-media pressurized environment with good structure/good teammates - I think you'll be surprised at how well he'll do with the Preds.
Not only that, I've heard from Hamilton fans that in his time in the AHL, his coach and teammates never had any complaints or issues. No one ever considers that the coach could be at fault in these situations. In a perfect world, a player can suck it up and bear it if he's being treated unfairly...but it's not a perfect world. He might not have handled the situation ideally, but I don't think the blame falls entirely on Sergei--and that's the gist of what Poile said yesterday.

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What is the end game of the Nashville Predators? In all honesty, what does the team need to do better than last year. Offensively, the team was 15th in scoring. Not great but a hell of a lot better than it was in past years. PK and PP was god awful. The addition of Lombardi is a replacement of Arnott; both in ES (Equal number of goals) and PP (where Lombardi averaged 3 minutes a game). Kostitsyn is the big gamble. If he's a goal scorer that the Preds believe he is, he joins the PP and will replace the player who took the least amount of PP time on the 2 units, Dumont. The more I look at the numbers and the roster Dumont is the man to go. I would have sworn that Dumont would stay because he showed loyalty to the team and Poile is a loyal GM but the roster says he's the odd peg, again if Kostitsyn works. The reason I say that is this when I formed the lines and depth chart of the Preds:

Sully-Wilson-Hornqvist
Kostitsyn-Lombardi-Erat
Dumont-Legwand-Andersson
Smithson-Goc-Ward
Belak-Tootoo-Spaling
O'Reilly

Ward is making too much money to be a 4th liner, he's skills are strong enough to play 3rd line even if it's a scoring line. He plays PP (1:06) and PK (1:56) time as well. Removing Dumont from the PP and replacing him with Kostitsyn may not hurt the PP at all. Also it bumps Ward back up to 3rd line and gives the Preds 4 million in salary to play with.

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Next comes the expected loss of O'Reilly and his $575,000. He played prominately on the PP too. Wilson can replace him on the 2nd PP unit, I will not cry about that.

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The problem with this line up is one of the prominate players on the PK, Spaling, is in the press box. The one player who statistically does not work for the Preds is Tootoo but he has the irritable qualities that drive up the opposing team's number of penalties. The cynical part of me says you dump Tootoo you might as well dump Belak as well but that's a lot of grit to lose. So what do you do? Keep Spaling in Milwaukee? My answer comes in the form of a veteran defenseman. Specifically, the veteran defenseman you can pick up for a part of Dumont and O'Reilly's salaries. Say 2 million and you pick up a guy who can play 15 minutes a night and play PK. Now this is if Jonas plays his part. The guy is one big SOB at 6'3" 212 lbs. If he's not a scorer but can play PK time and be a big body to push around the opponets then it's worth it. If not, the guy can be dumped in Milwaukee to play out his year and he goes to Europe again. $700,000 gamble deadloss. And, you can play Spaling in his spot. If Kostitsyn doesn't pan out, you put SK in Milwaukee and keep Dumont. Let's face it, if SK goes on waivers with Nashville, will ANYONE claim him? All Kostitsyn cost Nashville was a few more days of Ellis' tweets and Dustin Boyd who frankly wouldn't have a position on this team either. There is redundancy. I say this is the traning camp roster unless someone blows Poile away with a deal for a player. Remember there are 8 teams who need to dump salary because of bonuses and will be looking for cheap players to pick up. Toronto is looking for a center since Poile kinda picked up the guy the Toronto media was screaming for in Lombardi, they might be receptive. There is a thread currently in the Toronto boards asking "Who's our 3rd line center?" Well, they can have O'Reilly for a pick I'm willing to bet.

Most of the forwards on the Nashville Predators have one quality that screams 'trade me!' Ward is making way too much for a possible 4th liner. Dumont might not have a place on the Preds. O'Reilly has no center position to play for. Andersson might not be an NHL level wing. Kostitsyn is a headcase. Tootoo is all pest no skill and is making a lot for just being that. By my calculations this is a 46.5 million dollar team. (And I'm slightly over spending for all the RFAs and calculating for a $600,000 backup goalie). The whole team screams risk. Every one of them but I have been screaming for Poile to take a risk or five. He's doing it but he's doing it with calculated risks. Parent is injury prone. My answer is Blum and Laakso in MIlwaukee. What if Rinne wets the bed? I guess it's time to see if Pickard is ready for some prime time. (Or the FA vet Poile is going to pick up; most likely Lalime or Legacy, both can cover 20 games and have 2.81 GAA and .918 SV%). Nashville can pick up the vet D man and the vet G and go to camp with this roster and make the moves for picks afterwards. (Nashville only has one extra 2nd fron NJ). Looking at the depth in Milwaukee I'm questioning if Sulzer might be traded or not. I don't have the complete list of Dmen in Milwaukee signed but I have Laakso, Sulzer, Blum, Josi, Ford, and Matheson. That's 6 when it might be better to go to 7 or 8. I look at the forward depth in Milwaukee and that is a team that could beat 3 out of the 5 lottery teams in the NHL next year. Same with the defense with Sulzer, Laakso, Blum and Josi.

In fact, let's go there. Let's doom and gloom it and go RIGHT to 43,240,000 what would the team have to do to do that. First off trade Dumont. (Wait, didn't I PROVE it makes sense anyway to trade him?) Based on my generous calculations, you are at 43,043,600. Whoops too low, ok, sign the 2 million dollar defenseman. Back up to 45,043,600. Wait 14 forwards and 7 defenseman, ship off O'Reilly. (Wait, weren't we going to do that anyway?). 44,686,000. And this is with generous RFAs. SK .93M, Parent .98M, Franson .79M and Hornqvist 2.5M. And a 600K backup goalie which was the plan anyway. Let's say you think that's still too high. Ok ship off Tootoo and replace him with Spaling. 1,150,000 becomes 891,666. $44,427,666 (And the PK gets a boost from Spaling). This could be lower if Thuresson replaces Tootoo ($575,000). And lop off the 400K of RFA generousity and this is a 44 million dollar team which I can live with. But I'm willing to bet the team will spend to 45 million and cause more original six fans to ***** and whine about why isn't Nashville spending more money?

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It makes no sense to trade Dumont. None. (Which doesn't mean it won't happen, of course.) With a decreased role and less time on the ice last year he still came out near the team lead in points again. He's been a solid point producer since he arrived in Nashville, and is one of the best top-six forwards on the team, offensively speaking.

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I just cut/pasted BFCat's lines, to comment.

I see 16.
I'll subtract Belak. 15.
I think Kostitsyn and Andersson will have to earn their spots so that makes 13 left. Spaling went up and down this past year. that makes 12 "vets."

I do think OReilly may be the odd man out. But I think the remaining 11 will be here and the others rotated around them as circumstances and play dictate.

I see a lot of things possibly decided in training camp, (assuming the above all sign), and the first month of the season. I think players good on PK and PP will have a clear jump on everyone.

I don't see them doing anything with Ward, Smithson, Dumont or Tootoo this summer.

Of course I was astounded that Arnott got traded. So.....

I also wonder if they will tell Wilson to get ready to play on the wing. I wonder if Lombardi, Legwand, Goc and Oreilly are penciled in as centers.

This is very unorganized, but I hope to see Sully NOT on the point on the PP.

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