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07-04-2010, 01:46 AM
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I think the difference between all those guys that spent their career with one team and Modano is that those guys were ready to retire. Modano isn't. Steve Yzerman was in Detroit as long as he could physically lace them up and Nik Lidstrom will be too. Modano can still play. He's no longer a star center but he's still a very dependable 2 way forward with 50 point upside. I'm not really sure why the Stars wouldn't want him.

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07-04-2010, 03:21 AM
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I get that this post is on the first page of a slightly longer thread, but I feel the need to add my 2 cents. I respect the hell out of the Detroit Red Wings. There is no bad blood, but I kind of see this as a lobsided rivalry. By and large, Stars fans get pretty geared up for Red Wings - Stars games. You guys are kind of like the slightly older brother who is just that much better than us. We win sometimes, but it usually feels like it was because you had an off-game rather than the Stars simply beating the Wings.

For the record, I'm pretty light on these rivalries. Zetterberg and Datsyuk are two of my favorite hockey players. That said, I know there are quite a few Stars fans who loathe the Red Wings. I've said it before, but Detroit may be the best fit for Modano now, but if he signs there I will throw up in my mouth a little when I actually see him in the winged wheel.
Legit. See, the reason I didn't think of it as a traditional rivalry is because I was thinking more along the lines of the Avs being like an Ohio State (I'm a Michigan fan). If I see an Ohio State/Avs logo, I get angry just thinking about it, that's how deep that hate goes (though the Avs need to get relevant again...). I would liken the Stars more to Michigan State-it's a big game, we certainly like to come play hard and beat them, but afterwards I could chill with their fans for a beer and such.

Still, I know what you mean about Modano. Tough to see a longtime fan favorite go anywhere else, regardless of where. Hell, we were sad to see Yzerman go to Tampa to be a GM, despite having him in the system for his entire playing career plus several years as an executive. Some players just mean that much.

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07-04-2010, 03:24 AM
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lolol. How many guys playing that many seasons spent all of it with one team?
That's the point. Puts you in line with the Yzermans, Sakics, and Lidstroms of the world.

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07-04-2010, 04:40 AM
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I'm not really sure why the Stars wouldn't want him.
I think it has something to do with the same reason they didn't want Brett Hull after his contract ended or Belfour as his was ending.

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I think it has something to do with the same reason they didn't want Brett Hull after his contract ended or Belfour as his was ending.
I forgot that Belfour and Hull were lifetime Stars before moving on.


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07-04-2010, 05:03 AM
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That's the point. Puts you in line with the Yzermans, Sakics, and Lidstroms of the world.
But Mike Modano isn't ready to retire. He shouldn't give up on his career just because his original team isn't ready to resign him. That's the dumbest thing I've heard all day.

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07-04-2010, 05:28 AM
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Center position in Detroit is a bit more challenging than some teams:
- High defensive responsibility
- Need to be good puck distributor
- the 3rd liner center will have to work hard for the puck (since Hudler, Cleary are most likely the linemates)
- He can't float and try to score
Modano does all of that. He's not as quick as he was a few years ago but the guy still has awesome defensive awareness / responsibility. "Work hard for the puck" goes along with that ... he'll never be a Draper or a Holmstrom in terms of going hard into the corner with his body, but if a Datsyuk-style hard-working poke-checker will satisfy that role, Modano's got that. "Floating and trying to score" is about 100 miles from what Mike Modano has been ever since Ken Hitchcock first got a hold of him back in the mid-90's. Again, he's not a violent forechecker, but the guy does the work.
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Really? I've always considered Dallas a respected competitor, not a hated rival like the Avs. Is the feeling different the other way?
Derian Hatcher signing with Detroit still stings. Obviously that didn't work out for you at all, but for a "big market team" -- which is what Dallas was before Tom Hicks went bust -- to lose their captain to free agency while he's still more or less in his prime ... ouch. Maybe I only feel this way because -- to date -- no Texas-bred players have defected Michigan or Alberta to play at him, but to see Modano do the same thing would be really, really painful.

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07-04-2010, 05:38 AM
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Probably the only Star I actually like
Turco and Ott ruined it for the others, except Neal.

I hope the Duck killer gets a reasonable offer somewhere...but god not Detroit of all places thats just not cool

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07-04-2010, 09:02 AM
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But Mike Modano isn't ready to retire. He shouldn't give up on his career just because his original team isn't ready to resign him. That's the dumbest thing I've heard all day.
Not saying he should retire if he's not ready, but OP had a point with the fact that those players are held in a different esteem.


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Modano does all of that. He's not as quick as he was a few years ago but the guy still has awesome defensive awareness / responsibility. "Work hard for the puck" goes along with that ... he'll never be a Draper or a Holmstrom in terms of going hard into the corner with his body, but if a Datsyuk-style hard-working poke-checker will satisfy that role, Modano's got that. "Floating and trying to score" is about 100 miles from what Mike Modano has been ever since Ken Hitchcock first got a hold of him back in the mid-90's. Again, he's not a violent forechecker, but the guy does the work.
How much have you watched Modano over the past two seasons? He's not the same player that he was under Hitchcock. When he wants to play he is still very good. The problem is that he takes too many games off. Maybe a different team and coach will reenergize him. Dallas let him go because he was no longer showing the consistent hard work needed from a third or fourth line center.

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I remember some Blues fans telling us that Dallas Drake had nothing left when the Wings signed him and then he went on to be a force in the playoffs. I'm hoping if the Wings sign him it's the same thing.

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07-04-2010, 12:05 PM
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I think it has something to do with the same reason they didn't want Brett Hull after his contract ended or Belfour as his was ending.
Theres a difference between Mike Modano and Brett Hull/Ed Belfour. for one thing theres class, leadership, and loyalty. For another theres the fact that Modano is the greatest star ever and will have his number retired by the stars. Neither of those guys will.

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Not saying he should retire if he's not ready, but OP had a point with the fact that those players are held in a different esteem.
By whom? I certainly don't respect Sakic any more than Gretzky because he managed to play his entire career in one place.

What an arbitrary way to determine respect.

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I think it has something to do with the same reason they didn't want Brett Hull after his contract ended



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or Belfour as his was ending.


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I was under the impression that he originally did not want to be signed by just anyone. So I am guessing it is not 1 of 29 teams who contacted him, but 1 of ? teams. Maybe his text is his way of saying he is now open to offers from more teams.

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I wonder how much he's demanding in terms of $$$. Because I could see the Hawks having interest if he'd be ok with $1M or less (perhaps plus incentives).

I'm thinking he could get more elsewhere, though.

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I would love NJ to make a call. He's played with our captain and our head coach. He's played against one our assistants for a lot of his early career, and ended up playing our other assistant a few times before he retired too.

And our GM was his GM for two international tournaments.

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I remember some Blues fans telling us that Dallas Drake had nothing left when the Wings signed him and then he went on to be a force in the playoffs. I'm hoping if the Wings sign him it's the same thing.
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Im pretty shocked teams arent scrambling to get him... assuming hes not asking for millions (which i doubt its about the money to him at this point) seems like he would be a great fit on most teams.

I wouldnt mind seeing him on the Leafs to help teach the kids and still play solid.

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I actually could see him asking for a lot of money. Didn't during the lockout he say that 4M couldn't feed his dog?

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I actually could see him asking for a lot of money. Didn't during the lockout he say that 4M couldn't feed his dog?
That ***** has expensive taste.

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I actually could see him asking for a lot of money. Didn't during the lockout he say that 4M couldn't feed his dog?
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By whom? I certainly don't respect Sakic any more than Gretzky because he managed to play his entire career in one place.

What an arbitrary way to determine respect.
I don't necessarily respect his talent/the complete package more, certainly not over a player like Gretzky. But there is something to be said for loyalty to an organization-those guys are beloved in those cities.

Good comparison here-Yzerman and Fedorov. Certainly Fedorov is at least arguably as talented as Yzerman (in their primes, of course), or in the same ballpark, and vice versa. Both were integral parts of the Wings' mid-90's Cup runs, yet Yzerman is revered in Detroit, while Fedorov is almost reviled, all because of loyalty to the organization. Yeah, when you're talking about ridiculous disparities in talent, it's not going to make up the whole difference, but it counts for something.

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Modano, look at what Brind'amour did and just follow him.

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Would slot in as an awesome 2nd-3rd line center in Edmonton.

I still remember the days when the Stars (mainly Modano/Zubov) would slaughter the Oilers in the first round of the play-offs in the early 2000's.

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