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07-02-2010, 11:24 PM
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Say what you will about kroenke, but he is a successful businessman and knows when to pay up and when not to pay up. They want each of their business to pay themselves up and if the Avs have been filling up the seats am sure he would have increased the budget little bit more. On the other hand he and the Avs management team know that it takes a good 3 years to rebuild a team and it has only been 1 year so far. As others have mentioned it is wise to let your youngsters develop by getting more playing time and when they are ready to make the next step then add key FA signings to complete the roster.

Every year during FA signing period and Trade deadline period some fans drum the beat to get the biggest baddest glamorous player on the market. I like what the management did so far but I think they will add a low risk signing once the players asking prices come down in few days. I rather use the existing cap space to extend contracts of our young players so the cap hit in future years will be less for them.

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07-03-2010, 12:51 AM
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That's a double edged sword... if the Avs were putting a quality product (that's what Kroenke sees the team as) that was worth paying THE SECOND HIGHEST TICKET PRICES IN THE LEAGUE FOR... seats would be filled. As it is, nobody in Colorado is going to pay those ticket prices to see a mediocre team.

Kroenke needs to spend money on the team to get it back to the days where they were a true contender, or he needs to lower ticket prices by about 40%.

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07-03-2010, 08:48 AM
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The losers of free agency are the people who think the Avs were the losers in free agency.

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07-03-2010, 08:54 AM
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That's a double edged sword... if the Avs were putting a quality product (that's what Kroenke sees the team as) that was worth paying THE SECOND HIGHEST TICKET PRICES IN THE LEAGUE FOR... seats would be filled. As it is, nobody in Colorado is going to pay those ticket prices to see a mediocre team.

Kroenke needs to spend money on the team to get it back to the days where they were a true contender, or he needs to lower ticket prices by about 40%.
Wait 4 years, we'll have at least three 6 million dollar forwards, and they won't come through free agency. Then there'll be money spent on the team and everyone can be happy.

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07-03-2010, 09:07 AM
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Every year the teams that go after the big players are deemed winners and everybody else losers. Soon thereafter the contract reality hangover sets in and things look a little different. We ain't gonna wake up with a fat chick this year.

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07-03-2010, 09:15 AM
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And let's try to remember that last year was quiet too. And yet the Avs made what most would call the best signing of last summer's free agency in terms of what it cost them and what they got in return.

I still see a signing (or trade) or two coming up but clearly the Avs aren't going to play the overpayment game in the weakest crop of UFA's since the lockout.

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Every year the teams that go after the big players are deemed winners and everybody else losers. Soon thereafter the contract reality hangover sets in and things look a little different. We ain't gonna wake up with a fat chick this year.
Yes. Hamhuis at $4.5 mln per? He was a second-pair defenseman in Nashville, and rumor has it that Philly told him that he would probably be third-pair there. Everyone's been clamoring for the Avs to sign a legit top-pair defenseman, but I don't think Hamhuis was that guy. Ditto for Volchenkov--less offensive upside than Hannan and with the kind of game he plays, you wonder what kind of shape he'll be in by the end of the contract. I suspect Martin and Michalek both took a little less to play in Pittsburgh--they could offer something that Avs couldn't--a core that has won the Cup recently.

Keep the cap space, see how the prospects develop over the next year or two, then make your move. These days, there always seems to be teams looking to unload contracts.

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Avs make offer to Kovy.

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As a semi-outsider, I too am surprised that Sherman didn't pick up a d-man. However, there's still a lot of time. He may go shopping after training camp.

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As a semi-outsider, I too am surprised that Sherman didn't pick up a d-man. However, there's still a lot of time. He may go shopping after training camp.
Some ppl are surprised, some aren't.

I'm not.

We already have 6 proven NHLers locked up, with 2-3 young guys trying to steal a job in camp. If those young guys totally flop, a borderline NHLer could be found for cheap if necessary.

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I don't think the Avalanche should sign a defender... I think they should package a few of their B list guys for an A lister.

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Some ppl are surprised, some aren't.

I'm not.

We already have 6 proven NHLers locked up, with 2-3 young guys trying to steal a job in camp. If those young guys totally flop, a borderline NHLer could be found for cheap if necessary.
Yeah but the team desperately needs more toughness on the back end (unless Shattenkirk or Cohen are bringing some serious sandpaper).

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Wait 4 years, we'll have at least three 6 million dollar forwards, and they won't come through free agency. Then there'll be money spent on the team and everyone can be happy.
Who is the third?

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I could see Duchene getting 7million... Stastny is a 6...

I'm guessing a new forward would make 6? Couturier or Nugent-Hopkins please.

Hopefully that's not what Stewart is expecting...?

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Yeah but the team desperately needs more toughness on the back end (unless Shattenkirk or Cohen are bringing some serious sandpaper).
Valid point. Atleast last year we also had Clark and Salei, who were atleast somewhat tough players. That could give Gaunce an upper hand in camp.

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I could see Duchene getting 7million... Stastny is a 6...

I'm guessing a new forward would make 6? Couturier or Nugent-Hopkins please.

Hopefully that's not what Stewart is expecting...?
Haha, that's a little too early to worry about.

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Valid point. Atleast last year we also had Clark and Salei, who were atleast somewhat tough players. That could give Gaunce an upper hand in camp.



Haha, that's a little too early to worry about.
If we're speculating might as well wishful think while we at it right

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Valid point. Atleast last year we also had Clark and Salei, who were atleast somewhat tough players. That could give Gaunce an upper hand in camp.



Haha, that's a little too early to worry about.
Wilson and Foote have plenty of sandpaper if age and health don't sideline them. If Footer is used as the right kind of role player his contribution will be in this area where we don't have any excess.

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Who is the third?
By the time he hit's 28, Stewart will be in that range for sure. Stastny got 6.6 after getting 78, 71 point seasons. If Stewart continues his progression he should be an 80~ point guy with 35~ goals a year. Expect him to make at least 6 million, that's if the Avs plan to keep him otherwise he'll go somewhere else for that price.

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