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07-08-2010, 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by The Gibson Cup View Post
Who ever signs Kovalchuk.
I hate this statement.
Players like Kovalchuk doesnt grow on the trees everywhere and his money are equal for sure 40 goals. He is entering his prime who knows what happend... Maybe he will put up 5 consecutive seasons with 50+ goals. Maybe he will stay on his obligatory 40 goals mark. Whatever, he deserves his money with potential/risk ratio which he brings in.
He is not much worse than Ovechkin and definetly he is not worse than Lecavalier. Everyone knows he was one of few Devils which played with effort in 2010 PO.

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07-08-2010, 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Drij View Post
One word. Hodgson
you proved my point of my post - people don't pay attention to contracts and are just looking at the bottom-line.

If you spend more time than just "one word" you might realize that.

Hodgson is on the first year of his ELC. His ELC expires in 3 years. In 3 years, Samuelsson (2yrs) and Malhotra's (3yrs) contracts both expire ($5mill).

That's my point about "cap troubles" ... if a team can have all their guys basically locked up, with some contracts coming off regularly as their upcoming players need to be re-signed, they are not in cap trouble.

Cap trouble is the situation Chicago was in, when Toews, Kane and Keith all had new contracts come on, with no big contracts coming off the books.

Vancouver has organized their cap structure now over a 5-yr cycle and are in a very good cap situation because of that - each year that there is a new contract that needs to be re-upped, there is one or more coming off the books that allows you to do it.

This year, we are in great shape... Bieksa needs to be dropped but that was inevitable once Hamhuis and Ballard were added... next year, the only contract that needs to be re-signed is Ehrhoff, and Salo comes off the books ($3.5mill), while everyone else is still signed. The year after Samuelsson comes off the books, with everyone else still signed... and in yr 3, Hodgson and Schroeder finish their ELCs, while Malhotra and Burrows come off the books (and Samuelsson the year before, with no one needing a raise on a new contract).

And all this is assuming that there are no increases to the cap over that 3yr cycle.

again, certainly not cap trouble at all.

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The one good aspect of Chicago's bonus penalty is that it's forced frugality that will operate as $4.5m of additional cap space next year (subject to cap movement, obviously). It will at least allow Chicago to sign Brent Seabrook to a Duncan Keith-type deal (+$2.Xm to what Seabrook's currently earning).

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I think Philadelphia is a team in cap trouble moving forward.. They are currently nursing 577k of cap space.. They are in need of a true #1 goalie and next year Carter and Giroux are RFA (expecting healthy raises) Lieno UFA - if he performs like he did down the stretch expect a big raise. Gange UFA.... that's 4 key parts + Goalie... I don't see anyway how it's possible for them to retain all these assets going into a year from now.

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07-08-2010, 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Drij View Post
One word. Hodgson
If he is do for a huge raise(in three yrs) certainly but then we wouldnt resign a player or trade away a good player to keep a great player...

with Schreoder,Rodin,Sauve ,Connaughton coming up the pipeline we have forwards/dmen we can afford to replace veterns for cap relief.

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07-08-2010, 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by nuckfan in TO View Post
Vancouver does not belong in this thread... they have no cap troubles at all... you basically just took teams near the cap and assumed they could have cap trouble, but you ignore the contracts in place.

All the Canucks top players are either signed long-term, or there is room now to sign them long-term, while there is a steady drop of salaries coming up every year to make room for players that need to re-up their contracts.

The only way really that the Canucks get into cap trouble is either the Cap drops significantly (in which case many teams are in trouble) or they go out and sign expensive UFAs while dealing their guys on good contracts... ain't going to happen though. They have one of the better salary structures overall in the league.
Agreed. While any team in the league right now for the most part could in theory have a "better" cap situation (hey there's always room for improvement) the Canucks are a long shot to have serious cap troubles moving forward.

We have 6 players signed long term. Luongo, Sedin, Sedin, Kesler, Ballard and Hamhuis. Our cap will only see serious problems if most or all of those players take huge steps backwards. And we're talking about first line players playing like third line players and starting goaltenders losing their starter job.

The only really serious problem we might have are our current draftees just starting on ELC's needing new contract in 3 seasons. But in 13/14 when that might be an issue we only have about 30 million spent already that's only half of what the cap is at today.

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The Canes, but we're running into Salary Cap FLOOR issues, ugh

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07-08-2010, 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Stjonnypopo View Post
This is a troll thread that didn't work. A fan from Toronto starts a thread about cap troubles and singles out Montreal? Weak sauce. I'd be more worried about your own team full of second liners who's already at the cap for next season.
exactly. a leaf troll whose team has what? 25 mill tied up in its D right now?
habs will be fine. hammerlik is gone next year and that money will used to resign markov. fortunately habs best assets are up front so they can use cheap talented kids until the 'core' needs replacing and use the money to retool the D..when guys like gill, spacek and hammer are all gone - in the next year or so

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07-08-2010, 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueChipProspect View Post
Right now the Oilers have $14 731 333 of cap space and they still are trying to get rid of Souray and his $5 400 000 hit. That's just over $20 000 000 in cap space to sign the RFA's.

Here is that article by the way: http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=306283
Who was it that was suggesting that the Oilers were in a worse position than the Leafs, because the Leaf's wouldn't have to pay a #1 overall pick?

Then there was Healy, I think it was, suggesting that Burke should throw a 900k$ offer sheet at Cogliano.

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07-08-2010, 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by FolignoQuantumLeap View Post
As for the OP's question I'd say Minnesota is in pretty bad shape cap-wise. They're pretty mediocre and have a pretty big pay role and few prospects to ease the situation. It'll be interesting to see what happens with Mikko Koivu, who's going to be seeing a significant raise next year as an UFA. They're by no means in cap hell but their payroll just isn't justified by their on ice product... but you could say that about a lot of teams.
I'll agree with that - it's what happens when you finish 13th in the conference and underachieve - but it's not like they are going to have issues signing Koivu due to salary cap concerns.

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