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07-09-2010, 04:59 PM
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Confirmed, 1 year, $2 million dollars per CSNPhilly
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You know what, if we had gotten him for 1.75M, we would be RIGHT under the cap and no trade needed.

And for once, Eklund was right on his price.

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You know what, if we had gotten him for 1.75M, we would be RIGHT under the cap and no trade needed.
He's making $0.45 more than Leighton and $0.90 more than Shelley.

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No it's not, that's total ********!
how is it not? hes grossly overpaid considering all he can do is fight. leighton is overpaid as well, and i think coburn is getting too much.

that crap adds up. if we keep cote instead of shelley, we are under the cap right now. if we pay leighton a million, we are even further under the cap.

however, of those three, shelley is most useless. he'd need to personally pull giroux and richards out of a burning building, while carrying lavi in his teeth to win me over.

edit: and score a goal while doing it.

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So you guys don't think that giving Nabakov the money Leighton+Zherdev got would have done it? I gotta think he stays in the USA for something just under 5M.
Leighton and Zherdev add up to 3.55mil per year.
That's a) not something just under 5mil and b) not the amount what would've kept Nabby in NA.

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It's a $2 million hit for Zherdev (via Sarah Baicker of CSN Philly), which is a relief for Flyers fans. There was talk Zherdev was looking for $4 million, which was preposterous. The term's perfect; the salary makes this a reasonable gamble for Philly.

Whatever the salary was going to be, it's still so-long Simon Gagne, and thanks for the all cap space.

Said Philadelphia Daily News writer Frank Seravalli: "I think the move absolutely means Simon Gagne(notes) is packing his bags." He said that Zherdev puts the Flyers over the cap.

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how is it not? hes grossly overpaid considering all he can do is fight. leighton is overpaid as well, and i think coburn is getting too much.

that crap adds up. if we keep cote instead of shelley, we are under the cap right now. if we pay leighton a million, we are even further under the cap.

however, of those three, shelley is most useless. he'd need to personally pull giroux and richards out of a burning building, while carrying lavi in his teeth to win me over.
hartnell is overpaid, Briere is overpaid, Timonen while awesome, is overpaid, Carle is overpaid, Meszaros is overpaid, Boucher is overpaid.

Good deals that arent rookie deals:

Richards
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Eklund has a pretty damn good offseason. Some credit is due there. His "facts" were pretty spot on this year.

I like this signing for Philly if he has matured.. Trade Shelley and Meszaros for your 2nd back and sign Turco with that 4mil+ saved and a cheaper third or fourth line center like metropolit.

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He's making $0.45 more than Leighton and $0.90 more than Shelley.
If we traded Leino and brought up Maroon, we would still be at $545 over the cap... my god, such a small number hurts... and is sadly funny haha.

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how is it not? hes grossly overpaid considering all he can do is fight. leighton is overpaid as well, and i think coburn is getting too much.

that crap adds up. if we keep cote instead of shelley, we are under the cap right now. if we pay leighton a million, we are even further under the cap.

however, of those three, shelley is most useless. he'd need to personally pull giroux and richards out of a burning building, while carrying lavi in his teeth to win me over.
Wrong.

The difference between Cote and Shelley is just over $500,000, it doesn't make or break your cap.

You need to be at least $1 million under the cap to begin with for insurance and injury call up reasons. Flyers are now over that cap by $2 million with Cote on the roster.

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hartnell is overpaid, Briere is overpaid, Timonen while awesome, is overpaid, Carle is overpaid, Meszaros is overpaid, Boucher is overpaid.

Good deals that arent rookie deals:

Richards
Carter
Betts
Leino
this is all true as well. but at least they have served, or will serve a function.

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But offensively he is miles ahead of Gagne at this point in his career
Debatable.

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Defensively, its still uncertain, but I think Gagne edges him out
There's no uncertainty about it, Gange is far superior defensively.

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If he actually plays to his capabilities, and for wahtever his price tag is, you wont be disappointed.
Well, the next time he plays up to his abilities will be the first time.

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Wrong.

The difference between Cote and Shelley is just over $500,000, it doesn't make or break your cap.

You need to be at least $1 million under the cap to begin with for insurance and injury call up reasons. Flyers are now over that cap by $2 million with Cote on the roster.
huh? i thought the numbers posted earlier were something like 270k over?

edit: and to be clear, im pretty frustrated by all the overpayments in this offseason and past years. but the shelley signing really just bothers me, because it's completely worthless. he brings nothing new or beneficial to the team. carcillo, asham, and hartnell are all the toughness the flyers need imo. im fine with the zherdev signing since it has potential to be a great deal, but all the other crap might cost us gagne. and that pisses me off. i'd rather see hartnell go if necessary, but really...ideally...nobody should have to be dumped.

edit 2: id also prefer NOT having a cote, and NOT having a shelly, if it means having a ****ing goalie.


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07-09-2010, 05:10 PM
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Will Zherdev be restricted or unrestricted next summer?

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you mean Michael "nobody saves more than my defense" Leighton?
the man has to many nicknames

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hartnell is overpaid, Briere is overpaid, Timonen while awesome, is overpaid, Carle is overpaid, Meszaros is overpaid, Boucher is overpaid.

Good deals that arent rookie deals:

Richards
Carter
Betts
Leino
Leino is also an Entry Level Contract, also, I'd add Pronger to that list, under 5 mil for a legitimate #1 defense man is a steal.

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I guess that means we're not getting a goalie. Come on Bobrovsky, steal someone's job!!

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I said that he will sign... "Boston, Buffalo"... He will be a scoring threat on this team. I am calling for 35+40 (line him up w Richie and JVR)
As far as I know you were the first to report even a rumor, and you were dead on. Nice get!

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Will Zherdev be restricted or unrestricted next summer?
UFA.

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Well, the next time he plays up to his abilities will be the first time.
Awesome.

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Leighton and Zherdev add up to 3.55mil per year.
That's a) not something just under 5mil and b) not the amount what would've kept Nabby in NA.
Gagne (5.25) - Richards (5.75) - Zherdev (2.00)
Hartnell (4.20) - Carter (5.00) - Briere (6.50)
vanRiemsdyk (1.65) - Giroux (0.82) - Leino (0.80)
Shelley (1.10) - Betts (0.70) - Laperriere (1.16)
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Pronger (4.92) - Carle (3.44)
Timonen (6.33) - Coburn (3.20)
Meszaros (4.00) - O'Donnell (1.30)
Bartulis (0.60)

Leighton (1.55)
Boucher (0.93)

TOTAL: 61.20 (1 forward needed)
CAP: 59.40
SPACE: -1.80

Move Carle + Carcillo + Boucher for best value possible in futures. Re-sign Powe (0.70). Sign Turco (1.75).

Gagne (5.25) - Richards (5.75) - Zherdev (2.00)
Hartnell (4.20) - Carter (5.00) - Briere (6.50)
vanRiemsdyk (1.65) - Giroux (0.82) - Leino (0.80)
Powe (0.70) - Betts (0.70) - Laperriere (1.16)
Shelley (1.10)

Pronger (4.92) - Meszaros (4.00)
Timonen (6.33) - Coburn (3.20)
O'Donnell (1.30) - Bartulis (0.60)
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Leighton (1.55)
Boucher (0.93)

TOTAL: 59.28 (1 defenseman needed)
CAP: 59.40
SPACE: +0.12

Still not enough. It has to be one of Gagne, Briere, or Hartnell to go.

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edit: GOALIE. I JUST WANT A ****ING GOALIE. I DON'T WANT A ZHERDEV.

this isnt a hard concept, homer.
Agreed.

Don't need Zherdev. I'd like Gagne to stay. But for **** sakes, get a friggen' goalie, Homer!

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Gagne (5.25) - Richards (5.75) - Zherdev (2.00)
Hartnell (4.20) - Carter (5.00) - Briere (6.50)
vanRiemsdyk (1.65) - Giroux (0.82) - Leino (0.80)
Shelley (1.10) - Betts (0.70) - Laperriere (1.16)
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Pronger (4.92) - Carle (3.44)
Timonen (6.33) - Coburn (3.20)
Meszaros (4.00) - O'Donnell (1.30)
Bartulis (0.60)

Leighton (1.55)
Boucher (0.93)

TOTAL: 61.20 (1 forward needed)
CAP: 59.40
SPACE: -1.80

Move Carle + Carcillo + Boucher for best value possible in futures. Re-sign Powe (0.70). Sign Turco (1.75).

Gagne (5.25) - Richards (5.75) - Zherdev (2.00)
Hartnell (4.20) - Carter (5.00) - Briere (6.50)
vanRiemsdyk (1.65) - Giroux (0.82) - Leino (0.80)
Powe (0.70) - Betts (0.70) - Laperriere (1.16)
Shelley (1.10)

Pronger (4.92) - Meszaros (4.00)
Timonen (6.33) - Coburn (3.20)
O'Donnell (1.30) - Bartulis (0.60)
xxxxxxxxxx

Leighton (1.55)
Boucher (0.93)

TOTAL: 59.28 (1 defenseman needed)
CAP: 59.40
SPACE: +0.12

Still not enough. It has to be one of Gagne, Briere, or Hartnell to go.
If Bart got hurt, who do we have on an entry level contract that could fill in?

And under what circumstances does Shelley count against the cap?

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Will Zherdev be restricted or unrestricted next summer?
Zherdev on a one year deal will be deadly. He's playing for a heavy contract. But, getting one year full of effort from him should pay off big for Philly even if he is impossible to resign.

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Agreed.

Don't need Zherdev. I'd like Gagne to stay. But for **** sakes, get a friggen' goalie, Homer!

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UFA.
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