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07-09-2010, 05:53 PM
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Wheeler was drafted by Phoenix and they didn't sign him in time so he became a UFA. I'm pretty sure the prerequisites for being a UFA are either 27 y/o or 7 years of service, neither of which Zherdev will have at the end of this year. I'm wondering if there are any flyers fans on this board who know the CBA well enough to be certain though
The Rangers told him he could take his arbitration winnings and stick them where the sun don't shine.

He then bolted for the KHL.

He's a UFA for life now.

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Eklund saying it's $2m?

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07-09-2010, 05:55 PM
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Eklund saying it's $2m?
already confirmed by about everyone.

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07-09-2010, 05:56 PM
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First off, Powe wont come close to 10 goals. Lappy will outscore Betts but neither will reach 10, Lappy has a good possibility though.
Darroll Powe had 9 goals last year.

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07-09-2010, 05:58 PM
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I think the lockout counted as a year of service for players who played the previous year so next year would be Zherdev's 7th season, making him a UFA.
This is the answer I was looking for, thanks. I think some fans on here don't have a grasp of the CBA...

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Darroll Powe had 9 goals last year.
Read a couple posts back. He wont be getting that playing as the 13th forward.

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Darroll Powe had 9 goals last year.
Yeah, but I don't think he had one after Stevens was fired. Maybe 1.


I got no problem with this contract. If we didn't do other retarded things before this...

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07-09-2010, 06:02 PM
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This is the answer I was looking for, thanks. I think some fans on here don't have a grasp of the CBA...
Or perhaps if YOU actually read ANYTHING, a team who DENIES an arbitration award forfeits the remaining RFA eligible years of the player and that player then becomes a UFA.

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Yeah, but I don't think he had one after Stevens was fired. Maybe 1.


I got no problem with this contract. If we didn't do other retarded things before this...
Lavi likes Powe just as much as Stevens did

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Read a couple posts back. He wont be getting that playing as the 13th forward.
Laviolette doesn't even know who his 13th forward is going to be right now, and doesn't have a history of loving to use his enforcers (Shelley), so forgive me if I give Powe the benefit of the doubt.

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07-09-2010, 06:07 PM
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Or perhaps if YOU actually read ANYTHING, a team who DENIES an arbitration award forfeits the remaining RFA eligible years of the player and that player then becomes a UFA.
Being a UFA once doesn't make you a UFA forever. Case in point: Blake Wheeler. There are different types of UFAs.

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A decision must be made within 48 hours of the hearing. When the decision is announced, the team has the right to decline, or "walk away" from the award. If the team exercises this right, the player can declare himself an unrestricted free agent.
from this website

http://proicehockey.about.com/od/nhl...rbitration.htm

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Shelley - 5

He has 5 goals in the last 5 seasons. 16 total over 10. I'm thinking 5 from Shelley is a tad optimistic.

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07-09-2010, 06:09 PM
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Being a UFA once doesn't make you a UFA forever. Case in point: Blake Wheeler. There are different types of UFAs.
No crap, but we are talking about why ZHERDEV is a UFA and WILL be after this season.

Blake Wheeler was a drafted player (I'll give you that) who was never signed. He then could elect to go back into the draft or be signed as a UFA to a ELC because of his age and status and all that good stuff. So when his first contract went up. . . a ELC he would still be a RFA and not an UFA.

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07-09-2010, 06:11 PM
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He has 5 goals in the last 5 seasons. 16 total over 10. I'm thinking 5 from Shelley is a tad optimistic.
Well, it fell with in the realm of plausibility, and I didn't wanna be a jerk and put 0, lol.

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07-09-2010, 06:14 PM
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For 1 year at 2 million you will have a motivated Zherdev who wants to earn a bigger contract next season. Great signing but you guys still need a goaltender.

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Not too happy about this offseason thus far, but 2 million is pretty solid.

I'm going to wait and see how he pans out...right now it kind of feels like we just bought some day old cheese buns and are hoping they aren't rock hard.

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For 1 year at 2 million you will have a motivated Zherdev who wants to earn a bigger contract next season. Great signing but you guys still need a goaltender.
We're not the ones you're trying to convince.

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07-09-2010, 06:17 PM
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No crap, but we are talking about why ZHERDEV is a UFA and WILL be after this season.

Blake Wheeler was a drafted player (I'll give you that) who was never signed. He then could elect to go back into the draft or be signed as a UFA to a ELC because of his age and status and all that good stuff. So when his first contract went up. . . a ELC he would still be a RFA and not an UFA.
Zherdev IS a UFA in summer 2011, but it's not because the Rangers walked away from him in summer 2009. It's because at that point he will have accrued 7 years of service. The reason why I thought he might be an RFA is because I forgot the lockout year counts as a year of service.

I'll give you an example: If a team were to sign Marc Pouliot to a 1 year deal, he would be an RFA next summer. He doesn't get UFA status for the rest of his career because the Oilers didn't qualify him this June. Or, if the Oilers walked away from Gilbert Brule, and someone signed him to a 1 year deal, he would also be an RFA next summer because he hasn't met the requirements for being a UFA.

Anyway, I wanted to know what Zherdev's status was next summer and I got that answer. It's a good value deal for the flyers.

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We're not the ones you're trying to convince.
The main boards all seem convinced Flyer fans all drank the Leighton koolaid, I really don't get it.

(Except for the few baffoons who try and argue it to save face)

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07-09-2010, 06:19 PM
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We're not the ones you're trying to convince.
I know I was being obvious on purpose. Forgot the . I've seen how many times it's been stated.

The longer Turco sits the more of a chance you can sign him for cheap. I'd say a 2 year 4 million dollar contract would get it done.

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07-09-2010, 06:22 PM
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Blake Wheeler was a UFA at one point, he's an RFA now. I don't think being a UFA once means you're a UFA for life
Blake Wheeler hadn't signed a pro contract. His rights were held by no one (anymore, see below) at the point he signed his ELC with Boston. RFA came at the end of his ELC, very different than a team turning down the arbitration number, then you are a UFA.

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He was an undrafted player I believe and signed a FA contract. Any young nondrafted player is considered a FA, but still goes by RFA status by all the same rules as everyone else.

And in any event check the arbitration hearings . . . he's one of them.
Wheeler was actually drafted by the Coyotes (1st rounder, 5th overall pick in 2004), but played 4 years of amateur hockey after that (there was a little dispute about this, he only played 3 years of NCAA, but the year he played in the USHL counted as well), so when he decided not to sign with Phoenix past August his rights were owned by no one. For all intents and purposes he was a UFA, but as I said above, his contract ends as RFA because it was his first.

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Shelley - 5
Superstar can score from the press box?

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Cap Geek has it as $2 million as well, consider it confirmed.

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Gagne was a minus player as well.

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