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07-10-2010, 12:42 AM
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He can't be worse than this guy?

That still cracks me up watching it.

If anyone ever needs a laugh just type in Malkin Interview into Youtube and laughs will ensue.

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07-10-2010, 12:44 AM
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That still cracks me up watching it.

If anyone ever needs a laugh just type in Malkin Interview into Youtube and laughs will ensue.


I love russians sometimes, such as above for anyone who hasn't seen this gem.

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I love russians sometimes, such as above for anyone who hasn't seen this gem.
if zherdev can bring that to the table, he's worth at least 9 million.

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I love russians sometimes, such as above for anyone who hasn't seen this gem.
Yep Datsyuk is another one.

Here is one more Datsyuk gem



"Dangle Dangle"

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07-10-2010, 12:54 AM
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what is your problem with gagne? what is this about stats not lying? his stats look pretty damned good.

not 5.25 mil worthy, but once you take his defensive abilities into account, the contract is actually pretty close to his worth.
Blair Betts is better defensively and he cost $700,000.

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07-10-2010, 12:55 AM
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richards is cannon. datsyuk is dangle.

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07-10-2010, 12:56 AM
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Blair Betts is better defensively and he cost $700,000.
he doesnt put up the points gagne historically has. and as far as two way forwards go, gagne is one of the best we have, besides richards.

edit: he is overpaid. i agree with you there. i'd personally give him 4.5-4.7


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07-10-2010, 01:18 AM
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he doesnt put up the points gagne historically has. and as far as two way forwards go, gagne is one of the best we have, besides richards.

edit: he is overpaid. i agree with you there. i'd personally give him 4.5-4.7
Shelley won't, Zherdev has the talent to.

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07-10-2010, 01:20 AM
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he doesnt put up the points gagne historically has. and as far as two way forwards go, gagne is one of the best we have, besides richards.

edit: he is overpaid. i agree with you there. i'd personally give him 4.5-4.7
Wish we could keep him this year and sign him to a Hossa-lite contract. Get him for around 4ish.

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07-10-2010, 01:22 AM
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You clearly have no idea what you are talking about.

Gagne is NOT getting waived.

Gagne will be dealt in the next week.

Gagne is not worth his $5.25 contract, stats and injuries don't lie.

If Holmgren was such a bad GM, example in 3 full years as Flyers GM, he has 3 playoff appearances, 2 Eastern Conference Final appearances, 1 Stanley Cup Finals appearance. And please don't call it dumb luck or that they were Bob Clarke players.

Holmgren was in charge of scouting and the drafts, once again, fact.

You simply don't have a clue what your talking about.
What if Gagne is waived? will you defend it? Nobody can say either way what Holmgren is going to do. Hes done some pretty stupid things since he become GM.
I know what I am talking about. You know what you are going to get with Gagne. You are going to get a solid player on both sides of the puck. What will you get with Zherdev?
What about how Holmgren has handled the Cap? do we need to go over everything? He isnt a good GM. Is Dave Tallon a good GM because he created the Cap mess in Chicago. Yeah Chicago win the Cup, but what is that team going to be like in the future?
Its not just about making the playoffs. its about much more. Yes they were lucky this year. We were a shootout loss away from missing the playoffs.
But of course that wouldnt of been Holmgren's fault.
take all the credit and none of the blame right?

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07-10-2010, 01:25 AM
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Blair Betts is better defensively and he cost $700,000.
and is a fraction of the player offensively that Gagne is.
if he fought, and busted heads would you like him?

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07-10-2010, 01:26 AM
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What if Gagne is waived? will you defend it? Nobody can say either way what Holmgren is going to do. Hes done some pretty stupid things since he become GM.
I know what I am talking about. You know what you are going to get with Gagne. You are going to get a solid player on both sides of the puck. What will you get with Zherdev?
What about how Holmgren has handled the Cap? do we need to go over everything? He isnt a good GM. Is Dave Tallon a good GM because he created the Cap mess in Chicago. Yeah Chicago win the Cup, but what is that team going to be like in the future?
Its not just about making the playoffs. its about much more. Yes they were lucky this year. We were a shootout loss away from missing the playoffs.
But of course that wouldnt of been Holmgren's fault.
take all the credit and none of the blame right?
I think Chicago is still going to be pretty good. And I will take the chance that the Flyers might suck after they win the Stanley Cup.
Wouldn't you?

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07-10-2010, 01:35 AM
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Blair Betts is better defensively and he cost $700,000.
Blair Betts couldn't spell "offense" if I spotted him O-F-F-E-N-S. Nothing against him, he's 700k damn well spent, but that's a fact.

A year of healthy Gagne is worth 5 million. The guy had 75 points and was like +30 a year ago while taking some of the hardest minutes on the team FFS.

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07-10-2010, 01:52 AM
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hard to judge because to early i believe but what has Shooters drafts been like since he was named the GM?

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07-10-2010, 01:59 AM
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hard to judge because to early i believe but what has Shooters drafts been like since he was named the GM?
Hard to tell because it seems like we never have 1st and 2nd round picks.

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I think the Gagne situation will depend on where Kovalchuk lands. If not in LA, then we have a decent chance of shipping Gags to the Kings, perhaps for Quick (and then the Kings turning around and signing Turco)

The problem is, it's likely that Gagne's (short) list of teams is mostly made up of teams who can't accommodate his contract cap hit-wise. But if he would be willing to go to at least two teams who could really use him and would be bidding against one another, say for sake of argument the Predators and the Blue Jackets (or maybe even eastern conf. teams like the Hurricanes & Islanders), then I think the Flyers can get decent, not great, but decent, return.

If there's no one, and I mean no one, compatible, then I still don't think you see him waived, but then the chances of something stupid go higher, like standing pat with the goalies, or trading Carter for Mikko Koivu and Clayton Stoner to further help out the Flyers in the shootout and to boost merchandise sales...

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07-10-2010, 02:39 AM
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I think Homer has decided that not having garbage at 5 and 6 d-man more than offsets for losing a former Selke nominee (or close to that standard). I don't think the injuries, concussions and salary make him very attractive right now to keep or trade.

We all respect the heck out of Gagne and we all would wish him well on his new team. This is a cap league now and sometimes it gets ugly.

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07-10-2010, 02:39 AM
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Blair Betts couldn't spell "offense" if I spotted him O-F-F-E-N-S. Nothing against him, he's 700k damn well spent, but that's a fact.

A year of healthy Gagne is worth 5 million. The guy had 75 points and was like +30 a year ago while taking some of the hardest minutes on the team FFS.
thank you for saying this better than i did. in another post in another topic, i said i'd pay him 4.7 max...thats only because of his injury problems. in a good year, gagne can be a bargain.

also, you are the Mush.

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07-10-2010, 03:23 AM
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I like the signing. I don't like how it puts us above the cap though. Kinda puts is in a bad spot trying to arrange a trade as all other teams now have leverage.


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Zherdev for 2M a year is a good price. I do not give a **** what anyone says.

Now, I do not really want to lose Gagne. Trade Carle, trade Carcillo, waive Cote and Boucher and sign Turco and Morrisson.

Gagne Richards Zherdev
Hartnell Briere Lieno
JVR Carter Giroux
Shelley Betts Lappy

Pronger Meszaros
Timonen Coburn
O'Donnell Morrisson

Turco
Leighton (overpaid ****er)

This I like. However, I wish we could just waive Shelley and finish this of. I also still don't like playing so many damn Centers that can't play wing well and I kinda expect Carter to be traded for that reason.


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Carter Richards Carle Coburn Carcillo and now Zherdev...Homer loves that 2003 draft
Who doesn't (except the Rangers)? That draft was ****ing fantastic.

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Assuming we have 3mil capspace once Gagne's traded:

Add Carcillo 1.3mil hit and Powe 0.7mil hit, we'd still have 1.5mil capspace PLUS 0.9mil (which we'd get once Boucher is sent away), that should land us Turco at approx 2mil and leave us with about 0.4mil room for callups?

Zherdev - Richards - Carter
Hartnell - Briere - Leino
JvR - Giroux - Carcillo
Shelley - Betts - Laperriere
Powe

Carle - Pronger
Timonen - Coburn
Meszaros - O'Donnell
Bartulis

Turco
Leighton


Sad to see Gagne go, but that looks pretty fine lineup to me.

edit: Miscalculated. Space should be 0.3mil more as Cote's ejection and forgot Gagne's hit is 5.25mil, not 5.


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What if Gagne is waived? will you defend it? Nobody can say either way what Holmgren is going to do. Hes done some pretty stupid things since he become GM.
I don't think there's a chance in hell Gagne is waived. That simply could have been put out there by none other than Holmgren as a way to twist Gagne's arm. Essentially, if you don't accept waiving the clause you can get ready to enjoy Edmonton in February.

It's a bluff.

Not that I'm saying I'm down with moving Gagne. It doesn't make sense to me.

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I love russians sometimes, such as above for anyone who hasn't seen this gem.
Talking about gems:

This cracks me up every ****ing time:


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You can waive a guy and not assign him to the AHL and he doesn't count against the cap.
Even if they aren't picked up by another team?

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I approve of this post. In fact, I'm getting excited because I think this is actually what Homer has in mind....but I'm probably just setting myself up for disappointment, lol.
Yeah that does actually look pretty good though I still don't want Gagne to go.

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That still cracks me up watching it.

If anyone ever needs a laugh just type in Malkin Interview into Youtube and laughs will ensue.
You mean this one?



Richards is Cannon
Datsyuk is Dangle
Malkin is... Score?

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Talking about gems:

This cracks me up every ****ing time:

No wonder Heatley asked to be traded.

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