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07-11-2010, 09:20 AM
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Just goes to show he likely intends to retire a hab, or else why would he even care about citizenship if he planned to bolt in a year.

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07-11-2010, 10:01 AM
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Just goes to show he likely intends to retire a hab, or else why would he even care about citizenship if he planned to bolt in a year.
We still can trade him to Toronto, Ottawa, Calgary, Edmonton or Vancouver....

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Love it, I dont know why either, but at least it shows he loves canada and wants to stay here with all his heart and career GET BACK TO THE ICE YOU LOVABLE PP SCORING **** jk
This. It says alot about his character imo and his affliction for North America. He's obviously proud to be Russian, as we seen in his desire to come back from injury to make it to the Olympics but its good to see him love this country enough to want to become part of it.

I hope he retires a Hab.

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07-11-2010, 10:51 AM
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Markov cannot play for any other team at the international stage because he already represented Russia at the senior level.
From the IIHF site: http://www.iihf.com/channels/iihf-wo...igibility.html

IIHF Eligibility

To play in the IIHF World Championship, the Olympic ice hockey tournament and the qualifications to these competitions, players must fulfill the following qualification requirements:

Each player must be under the jurisdiction of an IIHF member national association.
Each player must be a citizen of the country he represents.

Acquiring a new national eligibility (The ‘two-year’ case)
When a player has changed his citizenship or has acquired another citizenship and wants to participate for the first time in an IIHF competition representing his new country he must:

Prove that he has participated for at least two consecutive years in the national competitions of his new country during which period he has neither transferred to another country nor played ice hockey within any other country.
Have an international transfer card (ITC) that shows the transfer to the national competition of his new country and which was approved and dated at least two years before the start of the IIHF competition in which he wishes to participate.

Change of national eligibility (The ‘four-year’ case)
A player, who has previously participated in IIHF competition, can switch national eligibility (but only once in a player's life) if:

He is a citizen of the new country of his choice
He has participated for at least four consecutive years in the national competitions of his new country, during which period he has neither transferred to another country nor played ice hockey within any other country and has not played for his previous country in an IIHF competition during this four year period.
He has an international transfer card (ITC) that shows the transfer to the national competition of his new country and which was approved and dated at least four years before the start of the IIHF competition in which he wishes to participate

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07-11-2010, 11:14 AM
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I'm pretty sure American citizens have to denounce all other citizenships they possess... which is stupid. As for international play, once you play a single international game you have to stick with that team for your whole career. Some people are upset about this because it means Tyler Myers will never play for team U.S.A.
The other way you can represent another country is for the WORLD CUP because it's organized by the NHLPA/NHL so it's not by the IIHF rules

See Petr Nedved

CANADA = OLYMPIC
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07-11-2010, 12:20 PM
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This. It says alot about his character imo and his affliction for North America. He's obviously proud to be Russian, as we seen in his desire to come back from injury to make it to the Olympics but its good to see him love this country enough to want to become part of it.

I hope he retires a Hab.
Agreed, A 10yr/35 million should get it done?

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07-11-2010, 12:26 PM
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Agreed, A 10yr/35 million should get it done?
So we can have Markov locked up until he's 42/43? How many players play until their 40's?

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I read not long ago that Oleg Petrov is retiering and moving to Montreal with his family. Says best place on earth.

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Nice to see. Marky's health hasn't been grand lately but he's still great. If he can't stop getting hurt, he gets taken over by Cammy and Gio in that role. But overall, we need him more than anyone to be our best player. In the long run, this guy is one of the top 10 d-men we've ever had (barely though, ranking behind Harvey, Lapointe, Robinson, Savard, Chelios, Bouchard, Mantha, Laparriere and Tremblay. I'd put him just ahead of guys like Tom Johnson- despite his one Norris- Kenny Reardon and Terry Harper).

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07-11-2010, 03:34 PM
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So we can have Markov locked up until he's 42/43? How many players play until their 40's?
Doesn't matter if he plays. If he plays 6 years then we get him for approx what he's worth anyways, he retires, comes off the cap and still only makes what he would of over 6 years and we get him for the bargain cap hit of 3.5million.

Lou style. I like it.

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From the IIHF site: http://www.iihf.com/channels/iihf-wo...igibility.html

IIHF Eligibility

To play in the IIHF World Championship, the Olympic ice hockey tournament and the qualifications to these competitions, players must fulfill the following qualification requirements:

Each player must be under the jurisdiction of an IIHF member national association.
Each player must be a citizen of the country he represents.

Acquiring a new national eligibility (The ‘two-year’ case)
When a player has changed his citizenship or has acquired another citizenship and wants to participate for the first time in an IIHF competition representing his new country he must:

Prove that he has participated for at least two consecutive years in the national competitions of his new country during which period he has neither transferred to another country nor played ice hockey within any other country.
Have an international transfer card (ITC) that shows the transfer to the national competition of his new country and which was approved and dated at least two years before the start of the IIHF competition in which he wishes to participate.

Change of national eligibility (The ‘four-year’ case)
A player, who has previously participated in IIHF competition, can switch national eligibility (but only once in a player's life) if:

He is a citizen of the new country of his choice
He has participated for at least four consecutive years in the national competitions of his new country, during which period he has neither transferred to another country nor played ice hockey within any other country and has not played for his previous country in an IIHF competition during this four year period.
He has an international transfer card (ITC) that shows the transfer to the national competition of his new country and which was approved and dated at least four years before the start of the IIHF competition in which he wishes to participate
Are those qualifications all 'or' or 'and' or 'and/or'?

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07-11-2010, 04:50 PM
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I read not long ago that Oleg Petrov is retiering and moving to Montreal with his family. Says best place on earth.
That ruin the idea I had last week....with Vakourov gone as our russian scout.....thought about Petrov for taking his place....I guess not unless he comes here and goes there from time to time.

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07-11-2010, 06:35 PM
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Markov cannot play for any other team at the international stage because he already represented Russia at the senior level.
I thought he only needed to have not played an international game for Russia over the past 4 years and have Canadian Citizenship to do so.

Nik Antropov is also a Canadian citizen.

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No place for him hihi


Doughty - Weber
Keith - Seabrook
Boyle - Myers

Subban
I'd take him over Boyle.

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Good ! we will have one more Quebecer with the Habs and a great one !


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So we can have Markov locked up until he's 42/43? How many players play until their 40's?
Front load it, he gets his money, retires at 38-40 and we're not stuck with the cap hit after. Win, win.

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That ruin the idea I had last week....with Vakourov gone as our russian scout.....thought about Petrov for taking his place....I guess not unless he comes here and goes there from time to time.
Why would the Habs need a scout in Russia anyways?

Seriously though, we had the best russian scout in the universe and we let him walk.... Though, I read a few weeks before the clean up that he was named something like "directeur du personnel" for one of the big KHL clubs, Dynamo if I'm not mistaken (lazy and no russian letters on the keyboard).

Maybe it was an agreement between both him and the Habs, other than that, I don't see how the Habs woud split with such a good scout. The only non-nhl material players we drafted from Russia under his rule are the exception to confirm the rule.

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He still doesn't speak french...







he barely speaks english

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Love it, I dont know why either, but at least it shows he loves canada and wants to stay here with all his heart and career GET BACK TO THE ICE YOU LOVABLE PP SCORING **** jk
Canadian Passport is the best in the world.

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I'm pretty sure American citizens have to denounce all other citizenships they possess... which is stupid. As for international play, once you play a single international game you have to stick with that team for your whole career. Some people are upset about this because it means Tyler Myers will never play for team U.S.A.
I know Jews who have double citizenships of Israel-US.

Brett Hull was still a Canadian citizen after he became a US citizen.

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I'm pretty sure American citizens have to denounce all other citizenships they possess... which is stupid. As for international play, once you play a single international game you have to stick with that team for your whole career. Some people are upset about this because it means Tyler Myers will never play for team U.S.A.
You sure about that? Nabokov has played for both Kazakhstan and Russia.

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While he is a Russian citizen, he was previously denied permission by the International Ice Hockey Federation (IIHF) to play for Russia, because he had played for Kazakhstan as a 19-year-old in the 1994 World Championships. In 2005, Nabokov was granted permission to play for Russia in the IIHF World Championships, but declined. Nabokov had tried to gain the IIHF's permission to play for Russia at the 2002 Winter Olympics, but failed as there were regulations in place forbidding players from representing two different countries.[13] He was finally allowed to play for Russia in the 2006 Winter Olympics in Turin, Italy, after being given an exemption by the IIHF,[14] and was named to the Russian team for the 2008 World Championships [15]. During the 2008 World Championships he posted back-to-back shut-outs before defeating Canada 5-4 in the Gold Medal game. Team Russia won the 2008 IIHF World Championships, earning Nabokov his first gold medal.

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While he is a Russian citizen, he was previously denied permission by the International Ice Hockey Federation (IIHF) to play for Russia, because he had played for Kazakhstan as a 19-year-old in the 1994 World Championships. In 2005, Nabokov was granted permission to play for Russia in the IIHF World Championships, but declined. Nabokov had tried to gain the IIHF's permission to play for Russia at the 2002 Winter Olympics, but failed as there were regulations in place forbidding players from representing two different countries.[13] He was finally allowed to play for Russia in the 2006 Winter Olympics in Turin, Italy, after being given an exemption by the IIHF,[14] and was named to the Russian team for the 2008 World Championships [15]. During the 2008 World Championships he posted back-to-back shut-outs before defeating Canada 5-4 in the Gold Medal game. Team Russia won the 2008 IIHF World Championships, earning Nabokov his first gold medal.
Wait. Slow down. Nabokov won something?

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I'm pretty sure American citizens have to denounce all other citizenships they possess... which is stupid. As for international play, once you play a single international game you have to stick with that team for your whole career. Some people are upset about this because it means Tyler Myers will never play for team U.S.A.
The Supreme Court overruled the old US government's stance against citizens with dual citizenship.

http://www.richw.org/dualcit/faq.html

The one thing that stinks about US is once you are a citizen no matter where you go you have to pay income taxes. They give you a break on a certain amount but I find it ridiculous that if you earn your wage in Europe you would have to pay a US tax on it.

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must be for our healthcare.

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