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07-13-2010, 10:50 PM
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Informations on Swiss junior hockey

Is there any Jr leagues in Switzerland like in the USA for kids 20 under that are amitchure

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07-14-2010, 02:50 AM
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The first tier of junior hockey in Switzerland is called Elite junior A (14 teams), and the second tier Elite junior B (12 teams split in a west and an east group). Then you have junior top, junior A and junior B (teams all over the country, split in many groups).

But what do you mean by "amitchure"?

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The first tier of junior hockey in Switzerland is called Elite junior A (14 teams), and the second tier Elite junior B (12 teams split in a west and an east group). Then you have junior top, junior A and junior B (teams all over the country, split in many groups).

But what do you mean by "amitchure"?
amateur ? (non professional)

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07-14-2010, 06:44 AM
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Sorry about spelling. Amateur! Son looking into playing hockey in Switzerland. He has been picked by 2 Jr B teams can't quite make the JR A teams. The Jr B teams want $6,000.00 per season to play. He thought for that kinda money. He'd go expeirence something new.


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Sorry about spelling. Amateur! Son looking into playing hockey in Switzerland. He has been picked by 2 Jr B teams can't quite make the JR A teams. The Jr B teams want $6,000.00 per season to play. He thought for that kinda money. He'd go expeirence something new.
You gotta pay $6000 to play in Junior B?!?! if you don't mind me asking, what team is this?

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Any team in the Great lakes JR Hockey League. Rampage Kenosha WI witch is a Tier 3 Jr B. That also includes a room with a family. Also Tier 3 JR A leagues have Min. of $3,500.00 to skate + Billeting of about $200.00 a month for room. Tier 2 JR A there is about $200.00 Fee to skate and $200.00 a month billeting room.


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they pay you for junior b in manitoba, my buddy played on the norway house north stars last year

its not much but they do pay

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I made a new thread for this conversation as it wasn't related to Swiss players in North America.

Godi Jr, can you be more specific about the level of play you are looking for, and which part of Switzerland you are interested in?

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ameteur level to equal of usa JR A-B Tier 2-3 Zurich or Lake Constance area

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I don't know much about the level of the different US junior league, but I guess that would be either Elite junior B, or junior Top.

Your best chance could be contacting the ZSC organization in Zurich, they run an Elite junior B team and are partners with smaller clubs that run junior top teams. They could probably help you better than us. There is a contact form on their website: http://www.zsclions-nachwuchs.ch/org...schaeftsstelle

But I'm not very familiar with this part of Switzerland. Maybe someone from there can give a better advice?

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Does anyone know if there is a cost to play JR A or B in Switzerland

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Does anyone know if there is a cost to play JR A or B in Switzerland
I don't think you have to pay a lot. There's a annual club fee (don't know if that's the right word). But I don't think that you have to pay more than $400 a year. For Junior A or B levels in Switzerland, I don't think you have to pay anything... But I'm absolutley not sure.

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200 - 400 CHF plus Sposoring money

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Does anyone know if there is a cost to play JR A or B in Switzerland
The kids pay ca 200 - 400 CHF the season fee. Additionally to that, they pay entrance fee to the ice hockey arena where they train, which is ca 80 - 100 CHF/season. Then most of the clubs require so called "Sponsoring money" from the kids (read their parents) which is ca 200 - 400 CHF.

Please remember that the Swiss Jr. A level is not to compare with Jr. A i North America or in Scandinavia.

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Please remember that the Swiss Jr. A level is not to compare with Jr. A i North America or in Scandinavia.[/QUOTE]

Please explain.

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Please remember that the Swiss Jr. A level is not to compare with Jr. A i North America or in Scandinavia.
Please explain.

Godi Jr.[/QUOTE]

It's not proffesional at all. They have professional coaches, but the kids who play in the Swiss Jr. A level, all go to school or have a job etc. I think they have a training every day and 1-2 games a week (in regular season). The good thing is: The best junior players can go practice with the big clubs and sometimes even make a game or two.

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Hey, what do you guys think about our very young rising stars?
Is there any Nino, Bärtschi in coming? Maybe Kevin Fiala, a 1996er with exceptional status...

2011 seems to be an amazing Draft year for Swiss Hockey, a look at the mid-term ranking says it'll be the best ever, especially in terms of depth.

Bärtschi #6 of NA-Skaters
Trutmann #126 of NA-Skaters
Hofmann #19 of European-Skaters
Bertaggia #21 of European-Skaters
Kukan #29 of European-Skaters
Guerra #33 of European-Skaters
Hächler #62 of European-Skaters
Lammer #76 of European-Skaters
Scherwey #80 of European-Skaters
Andrighetto #92 of European-Skaters
Haas #93 of European-Skaters
Vermin #118 of European-Skaters
Grassi #119 of European-Skaters
Marti #129 of European-Skaters
Rexha #130 of European-Skaters
Pestoni #137 of European-Skaters
Conz #4 of European-Goalies

17 names! Of course, not all of them get drafted, especially not the low Europeans, but thats still a huge number!
The Czech situation looks about the same, Finns have more and little better prospects, but Germans and Slovakians are definitely not on the Swiss level in this pre-ranking!

For 2012 I see a bunch of good junior scorers, but I don't really know them since I don't watch Swiss junior hockey. I also don't know how good they are compared to other nations. At least statistically, I see the following candidates for the CHL Draft 2011:

GK- Robin Kuonen 03/02/94
D- Anthony Rouiller 02/14/94
F- Lukas Balmelli 01/03/94
F- Nico Dünner 04/19/94
F- Christoph Bertschy 04/05/94
F- Vincent Praplan 06/10/94
F- Dario Simion 05/22/94
F- Simon Sterchi 07/01/94
F- Julian Schmutz 02/28/94
F- Sandro Zangger 08/27/94

2013 front runners:

D- Xeno Büsser
D- Zaccheo Dotti
F- Ramon Diem
F- Luca Fazzini
F- Colin Loeffel
F- Daniel Nadrasky
F- Ramon Pfranger
F- Thomas Studer
F- Tim Wieser

2014 front runners: (only on stats, because I don't know their size)

D- Phil Baltisberger
D- Joey Dupertuis
D- Yannick Rathgeb
F- Gianni Brandi
F- Kevin Fiala
F- Michael Hügli
F- Noha Rod

2015

F- Fabian Haberstich


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Rouiller is a very interesting player, he already played some games with Biel's NLA team and did quite well. He reminded me of Roman Josi, he has a good "Vista" and a moves well.

But like other swiss juniors his problem could be his size. (173 cm / 5'8" actual size)

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Please remember that the Swiss Jr. A level is not to compare with Jr. A i North America or in Scandinavia.
Well you can not compare Canadian Junior Hockey with the Swiss... The organisation is totally different. In Switzerland you are Member of the Club, like you are Member of lets say a fitness club... They usually have different teams on several levels... But I think a very important thing about Swiss Junior Ice Hockey is, that you don't get paid... There is no weekly salary like in the CHL or anything similar. Usually you stay at your own home and only in some cases the team is looking for a host-family, but than you'll have to be very talented...

But what you could look for is the SISEC Hockey Program which started this season in the 2nd highest Swiss Amateur League... The teams plays close to 60 games in the eastern Group of the Regio League. But that program will cost you approx. $20'000 per season... You practice twice a day (and get school lessons between the practices), got 1-2 games against men per week, different nationalities in the team and you'll be living in the mountain village of Engelberg with a host family.

But if he want's to play in Switzerland, that'd be definitiv an option... Currently there are a few former Junior A players in that team...


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2013 front runners:

F- Daniel Nadrasky
Nadrasky is a Czech... He already played in some u15 tournaments for a czech selection....

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Dennis Saikkonen (Update/Photos?)

I just won his new glove from ebay (it's in my photo album here), and I wondered how he's doing back in the Jr. Swiss league?

- Jeff Emmerson
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Hello BackinBlack

...following article will give answer to your questions:
http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?p...1#post30764121

Such a scandal.

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...following article will give answer to your questions:
http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?p...1#post30764121

Such a scandal.

Thanks again for getting me up to speed. Let's hope there's a happier story ahead for Dennis.

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