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07-13-2010, 04:21 PM
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he is exactly like sather... only difference is tat sather's primary business interest isn't the rangers... steinbrenner was so committed to winning because winning = money.

as i had said before, baseball become a very boring and predictable partially because of him... mods, note that i am not disparaging nor reveling in the death of a public figure.

i'm sure he will rest in peace in $5M coffin, as will donald trump.
Really? It sure seems that way.

Anyways, its a little upsetting that anyone has to make comments like this on the day that George Steinbrenner passed away.

How exactly did he make baseball predictable and boring? Im sure you predicted it when the Red Sox came back from 3-0 in the 04 ALCS.

Like it or not, Steinbrenner revolutionized sports, from the way free agents are coveted, to television networks that many games are shown on today. Say what you want about George, but he has done some pretty remarkable things in his lifetime and touched a lot of people.

George Steinbrenner was a driven man and he will truly be missed. RIP The Boss.

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Thanks George...for everything!

Baseball will miss you !

They should leave the lights on at Yankee Stadium all night or a few nights in his honor!

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07-13-2010, 04:27 PM
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George did a lot of stuff that frankly I think will be HUGE negatives into getting into the HOF. But the values of the Baseball HOF are so warped I could see him getting in. Tom Yawkey, former owner of the Sox and grade A racist A-hole, got in.

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Big George off to heaven .... oh looks it's Billy Martin and he doesn't look happy.

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If only the Rangers had an owner who cared about winning as much as him...although it is much harder to buy a championship in hockey, especially with the cap now.

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07-13-2010, 05:03 PM
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if baseball had a cap, George will have still tried his hardest to make sure he got a winner. Perhaps he would not have been successful (perhaps he would have), but one thing's for sure is he'd die trying to make a winner. RIP.

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Damn. There goes a sports legend.

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Big George off to heaven .... oh looks it's Billy Martin and he doesn't look happy.


So long Boss, a legendary Yankee era coming to an end.

RIP

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RIP Boss.

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I guess he had to wait for Bob Sheppard to be at the microphone in Heaven so that he could be appropriately introduced when he got there.

The Yankees have come to embody his competitive spirit and his unquenchable desire to win. His legacy will live forever in those pinstripes.

‎"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next." - George M. Steinbrenner III

I'll miss you, Boss.

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Sad day. RIP Boss...

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RIP Mr. Steinbrenner. Thank god for him because being an Isles and Jets fan without the Yanks I would have probably killed myself by now. His desire and willingness to win transcended eveyone in his position. He will be missed.

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If only the Rangers had an owner who cared about winning as much as him...although it is much harder to buy a championship in hockey, especially with the cap now.
This is such a stupid statement in so many ways. The Yankees did not buy a championship. Sure, some of the key pieces were free agent signings. It remains a fact that some the most important players on the Yankees were not free agent signings.

Cano, Jeter, Swisher, Gardner, Cabrera, Rodriguez, Posada, Rivera, Joba, Cervelli, Molina, Hughes, Marte, Pena, Hairston, Aceves, Coke, Bruney and Hinske were all out of the Yankees Minor League system or traded for.

The point is that the Yankees produce tons of talent. Why should they get so much heat because they are able to re-sign their homegrown players or trade them for better ones?

Also, another example of being unable to buy wins would be the Mets. They have had the highest payroll in the NL the past 3 years and failed to make the playoffs. They were 2nd to the Yankees last year and finished fourth.

The point is that championships can not be bought.

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You cannot buy a championship ....EXH A

NY Rangers ....7 years of record NHL payroll...7 years no PO.

The Yanks started their current run of championships when Steinbrenner was suspended and Stick Michael and Watson were allowed to develop guys like Jeter...instead of trading them away like George used to do. The Yankees core was built during the time George was out of the loop...to his credit he saw the light and let his BB people do their job after that.

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There was never any question about George. He wanted to win championships. Unfortunately Mr. Dolan hasn't shown that at all with our Rangers.

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There was never any question about George. He wanted to win championships. Unfortunately Mr. Dolan hasn't shown that at all with our Rangers.
Dolan is an inept fool...but to say he doesnt want the team he owns to win is silly.

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Dolan is an inept fool...but to say he doesnt want the team he owns to win is silly.
He's never said otherwise. He'd love to win one because of all the revenue it'd bring in. That's the only reason I can think of.

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He's never said otherwise. He'd love to win one because of all the revenue it'd bring in. That's the only reason I can think of.
so because hes never said he want the teams that he owns to win means he doesnt care if they win....wow.

I dislike Dolan as much as anyone ( Ive met him and hes a real ********* ) .... but why would anyone think for one second that he doesnt care if his teams win a championship.

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so because hes never said he want the teams that he owns to win means he doesnt care if they win....wow.

I dislike Dolan as much as anyone ( Ive met him and hes a real ********* ) .... but why would anyone think for one second that he doesnt care if his teams win a championship.
Because Glen Sather has been our GM for ten years.

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Because Glen Sather has been our GM for ten years.
maybe he has a different opinion of Sather than others do.... . incompetence does not equal not caring. It is blatantly silly to think that the owner of a sports team doesnt care if the team wins or not....even owners that let their teams tank do it to get a good pick.

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maybe he has a different opinion of Sather than others do.... . incompetence does not equal not caring. It is blatantly silly to think that the owner of a sports team doesnt care if the team wins or not....even owners that let their teams tank do it to get a good pick.
I'm sure he would like his teams to win, but he doesn't do anything to facilitate it.
If he thinks Sather is doing a good job then he doesn't pay attention to the team and the league so it must not be that important to him.

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I'm sure he would like his teams to win, but he doesn't do anything to facilitate it.
If he thinks Sather is doing a good job then he doesn't pay attention to the team and the league so it must not be that important to him.
maybe in his eyes he thinks hes doing all he can..Rangers spent record $$$$$ on payroll for what....7 years?...every player that comes here raves about the way they are treated. He doesnt have the same opinion of Sather that most have ...doesnt mean he doesnt want to win. I just think its a silly argument to say the owner of a team doesnt want to win. It would make sense if the Rangers were cheap and had crap facilities for their players...but the opposite is true...they spare no expense when it comes to the way they treat their players....and spent top dollar to get people like Gordie in here to fix this mess.

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Let me speak a few words about George Steinbrenner. He's was a criminal, twice banned from MLB. He was abrasive, a pain in the ass to work for, and the ultimate foil for the Red Sox. He was hatable but I do not write these words today for that reason. He was everything the Red Sox needed. For every great story you must have a bad guy to make a good guy. For the Yanks it was the Sox. For the Sox it was Steinbrenner. The man earned his money in shipping and building convoy ships during WWII, honorably.He was the ultimate symbol for owners gone bad firing Billy Martin so many times the man became an alcoholic. He is the stepping stone for owners to misbehave, But the SOB wanted to win so badly. You HAD to admire that. The dimmest light becomes a sun in the darkest of days. It's because of George's darkness we have the contrast to see his light. He was a phenomenal contributor to the Jimmy Fund for Cancer research, the Red Sox's home charity. When Red Sox pitcher John Lester was diagnosed with cancer it was Steinbrenner who was the only person outside the Red Sox family who gave any consideration to him, giving a bounty of flowers so large it was almost impossible to place them in his room.

With Rivalry comes respect. We loathe the Yankees but we also need them and love them at the same time. As Red Sox fans we needed a rallying point to drive the metaphorical knife deeper and deeper. He was that point. But it was George who left the lights on in Yankees Stadium to let the Sox fans party of the Yankee's soil after the heart ripping defeat of the cursed enemy. He was competitive yes but there was an understanding, the story of the Yankees and the story of the Red Sox are intertwined in the same fabric of life. As much as George Steinbrenner's death is a blow to the Yankees it is as much of a blow to the Red Sox. Who will replace the massive contributions to the Jimmy Fund? Who will fill the vacuum of emotion between Boston and NY? Who will be the dark cloud the Red Sox hunt to find a silver lining on?

The man wasn't a saint, but who the hell is?
billy martin was already an alcoholic...him and mantle were famous for their romps out on the town.
as for him making the money during WW2, sure that wasn't HIS FATHER??

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There was never any question about George. He wanted to win championships. Unfortunately Mr. Dolan hasn't shown that at all with our Rangers.
Every owner wants to win... Not everyone dedicates his business to winning though. Yankees was Steinbrenner's PRIME business. For Dolan and Wang hockey is complimentary. Thus George must knew what he was doing to keep his ownership from getting into dismay. That has never been a problem for Dolans, they could run it clueless...

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