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07-14-2010, 12:31 PM
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At first sight I thought this thread was about Max (Lapierre) amount of money (recently signed contract) being given to Price.

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07-14-2010, 12:36 PM
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Price hasn't earned anything over $2.5M. Even 2.5M is too much IMO but he has bargaining power now that Halak is gone. It would almost be in his best interest to accept less money because fans tend to get on the backs of Habs players who make too much money and underperform (see Brisebois when he was making $4M per yr).

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Like 3 years 8 millions

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07-14-2010, 12:57 PM
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Two things I'd like to clear up.

1-I doubt Price signs a long term deal here before Halak is traded, as I'm sure his agent would have waited for a possible offer sheet if they had extended Halak. People taht say he should have been signed have not figured out that both parties have to agree in order to sign a contract. I think part of the delay in getting a deal done is trying to get a longer deal for a cap number that's not high...2 mil on 2 years or 2.5 on 3 or 4 years etc. I'm sure Price's agent wants more if it's more than a 1 year deal.

2-People need to stop talking so much about what a player "deserves". It's about supply and demand and how bad a team wants to sign a player long term. Obviouly Gauthier and co have faith in Price as the future in nets, so going to 3 mil on a 4 year deal or 2.5 on a 3 year deal is more about controlling cost than Price "deserving" that much. If he plays like a good #1 goalie, in 2-3 years they'll have to spend 4.5-6 mil to keep him so that 2.5 or 3 mil cap hit could be a huge bargain in year 3 or 4 signed this summer.

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07-14-2010, 03:28 PM
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2 M$ per for 1 year
2.5 M$ per for 2 years
3 M$ per for 3 years
3.5 M$ per for 4 years or more

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nothing more than a $3M/year cap hit

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07-14-2010, 03:39 PM
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because he lost 8 straight playoffs games we should get rid of him ?
Because he lost 8 consecutive playoff games, we might want to make sure to have a good plan B in place until he proves that those losses were the exception not the norm.

Oh wait...


Anyways, I don't think Price's contract should be resolved soon if both parties are good negotiators.

Price's agent should ask for a large sum of money (4mil+) because PG has no leverage in replacing him and PG should call his bluff because Price has no leverage in playing elsewhere unless he gets an offer sheet.

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07-14-2010, 04:12 PM
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For me it is more about the term. I really hope it is 2 years or less.

In terms of money, I hope for under 2 mil, but my max to be happy would be 2.5. But even if it is more, but the term is 1 or 2, I'm not super upset.

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For me it is more about the term. I really hope it is 2 years or less.

In terms of money, I hope for under 2 mil, but my max to be happy would be 2.5. But even if it is more, but the term is 1 or 2, I'm not super upset.
I expect him to get 4 years so that his contract ends at the same time as Gomez, Cammy and Gionta.

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07-14-2010, 04:52 PM
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Whatever the terms, at least 2 million less than Halak

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2.5M for 2-3 years. Hopefully 3.

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2.5 mill max. / year. He is our starting goalie, he has been an all-star goalie already (I know we voted him in, but he still had a decent season)

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07-14-2010, 08:44 PM
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2,5M/year. Don't mind the term 'cause at 2.5, either it makes it interesting for us quality for money, either he still is interesting to get in a trade if he's on a long-term contract.

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3M for 4 years. This IS the re-do of "here's your kingdom, own it", just after a few years of experience. If you had asked people after his rookie year, they would be clamouring to sign him long term. A few road bumps and now he's worth nothing. I say invest in him as we have done all along and this time he will deliver. If you make him another borderline UFA, playing for a cheque and a chance to make more next time, you might push him to play harder so I understand that (like the case with Lapierre). I think, however that it's best if he thinks of it as his team, his net, his job to deliver on what he more than anyone wants- to win and to do it in Montreal. I think people who use the word bust when referring to Price just like the way it sounds-- they don't actually believe it.

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Thought about this for a couple days, and anything over $3.0M a year I would be disappointed with, unless it takes out UFA years.

I expect to see the habs and Price come to terms on a 1 year deal in the $2.0M-$2.5M range. In many ways it makes the most sense for both sides. The habs don't gamble on term, and if Price has a stellar year next year his bargaining position will be that much better.

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I expect at least 3 millions per year for 4 years.
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I believe that this is fair if he becomes a real #1 here.

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http://www.thehockeynews.com/article...rice-earn.html

Some good logic going on in that article. Price might actually get a salary close to Halak's.
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Price is younger than Pascal Leclaire, Rick DiPietro and Marc-Andre Fleury, has a better winning percentage than Leclaire and DiPietro and a better career GAA and much better SP than all three. None makes less than $3.8 million.
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How about Dallas’ Kari Lehtonen, another top-five draft pick from the 2000s? Price has a better career goals-against average and has a far less sketchy injury history. Lehtonen signed for $3.55 million a season in May
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Nashville’s Pekka Rinne is five years older, has played 21 fewer NHL games and has a career save percentage of .914. Rinne’s price tag: $3.4 million. Anaheim’s Jonas Hiller is 28 and has just three more career wins than Price. Hiller makes $4.5 million.

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http://www.thehockeynews.com/article...rice-earn.html

Some good logic going on in that article. Price might actually get a salary close to Halak's.
Interesting article because apparently Price sucks, but according to this article he's better than all these number one goalies....hmmmmmmm.

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Interesting article because apparently Price sucks, but according to this article he's better than all these number one goalies....hmmmmmmm.
Price is doing better at his age than any goalies in this league, including Brodeur. Unfortunately for him, an unbelievable amount of D-bags in the medias hyped him up as the next Roy and then ripped him down because he didn't pull miracles out of his ass at 20 years old and led a bunch of spineless party goers like Higgins, Ryder and Komisarek to a Stanley Cup. He also was used as lightning rod for all of Gainey's detractors and the sheeps, err... the fans, meekly and quickly agreed with their Ph.D in psychology found in cereal boxes that he's "not tough enough mentallyl" because that's how it is in this ****ing city.


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Price is doing better at his age than any goalies in this league, including Brodeur. Unfortunately for him, an unbelievable amount of D-bags in the medias hyped him up as the next Roy and then ripped him down because he didn't pull miracles out of his ass at 20 years old and led a bunch of spineless party goers like Higgins, Ryder and Komisarek to a Stanley Cup. He also was used as lightning rod for all of Gainey's detractors and the sheeps, err... the fans, meekly and quickly agreed with their Ph.D in psychology found in cereal boxes that he's "not tough enough mentallyl" because that's how it is in this ****ing city.
In actuality, I believe it was GAINEY who referred to Price as a "thoroughbred" when members of the media were questioning why Halak didn't get any starts against the Bruins when Price went 0 for 4. If anybody has been doing the overhyping it's been the organization itself. So don't get all worked up when the media starts looking for Seabiscuit.

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In actuality, I believe it was GAINEY who referred to Price as a "thoroughbred" when members of the media were questioning why Halak didn't get any starts against the Bruins when Price went 0 for 4. If anybody has been doing the overhyping it's been the organization itself. So don't get all worked up when the media starts looking for Seabiscuit.
"thoroughbred" doesn't mean Savior. It means the kid has great talent and size. Timmins called Subban the same thing, does it mean we should boo PK out of town if he doesn't win the Norris this year?

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"thoroughbred" doesn't mean Savior. It means the kid has great talent and size. Timmins called Subban the same thing, does it mean we should boo PK out of town if he doesn't win the Norris this year?
No, but if he ever loses his spot in the lineup to someone like Kyle Klubertanz, I'm sure someone will be concerned...

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"thoroughbred" doesn't mean Savior. It means the kid has great talent and size. Timmins called Subban the same thing, does it mean we should boo PK out of town if he doesn't win the Norris this year?
First, the kid is being picked #5. By picking a guy that high, a guy that nobody pencilled to be a Habs for all sorts of reasons INCLUDING the fact that at the time he was not suppose to be top 5, the organization made the statement that they believed he was a franchise goalie. Not a good one. A franchise one. A franchise one, to me, has to mean close to savior.

Then, the kid ends up winning trophies left and right, Worlds Juniors and so on. So based on his performances as a junior, I don't see how people (fans and journalists) couldn't be expecting a lot of things coming (note, this is not just because the Worlds, or the draft pick or one single event, we are talking about the chain of situations that had happened here...)

Then, by giving the net to Price instead of Halak in Hamilton without any preparation whatsoever, even though Halak was doing EXTREMELY WELL with the Dogs, you raise the expectations from the medias and the crowd that the kid is already ready to take bigger challenge. Now imagine the fact that he did in fact win the Cup.....and you don't expect people and the medias to go nuts a little? Yes, it's entirely possible that Halak had won it as well, still what he had done at that level was impressive and HAD to raise expectations. Then, he does well when he starts in this league. Pretty well to say the least. Biggest thing about a goalie and especially in Montreal, is that he's really known as the iceman. Seems that being tough mentally is one of his greatest strength. And we do know how important it is here. Add to all his natural traits, how do people not have high expectations again?

Then, we had a pretty fine team. A team that was pencilled as a team that could make some potential damage. What do we do? You get rid of the "vet" for a round pick to give the net to the youngster. And not behind a team in a losing cause here. A team that could have done some serious damage. The organization has to know what they were doing. Putting all their faith in this goalie HAD to mean that he was ready AND great. And then, another goalie does miracles.....a young one who never has the chance that the other has until he doesn't give the organization ANY chance to get him out of the lineup...here comes decision time and who stays? The 5th round pick 'cause he is better, he has more potential than the one who permitted us to go further than any goalie succeeded in the last 17 years. A goalie who by all accounts, from goalies specialists to ex-goalies, is pencilled as the greatest asset we have in our organization and that despite the "other" being so succesful, that they would still go with Price to build a team nonetheless....

And frankly....you still wonder why the regular people and even the media (who for most of them know just as much as we do) are targetting Price as the franchise goalie or the saviour???? You are really wondering why so much expectations?

Honestly?

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