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View Poll Results: Who is the Stars' #10 prospect?
Mike Bergin 0 0%
Tyler Beskorowany 13 46.43%
Alex Guptill 3 10.71%
John Klingberg 1 3.57%
Sergei Korostin 6 21.43%
Curtis McKenzie 3 10.71%
Austin Smith 1 3.57%
Reilly Smith 1 3.57%
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07-17-2010, 07:21 PM
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HFStars-Voted Summer 2010 Top-20 Prospects: [#10]

With the rubber stamp out of the way...

   HFStars 2010 Top-20 Prospects
#1GJack Campbell
#2DPhilip Larsen
#3RWScott Glennie
#4RWAlex Chiasson
#5RWTomas Vincour
#6GRich Bachman
#7COndrej Roman
#8DPatrik Nemeth
#9RWColton Sceviour
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Now the field really opens up. If people can make a short case for who they're voting for that'd be nice. It's a lot less clear cut now.

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I was having tremendous difficulty separating Korostin and McKenzie in this one. I'm a little ashamed to admit it, but I actually used HF rankings to break the tie, since I don't think either had a particularly disappointing season at the next level.

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i think mckenzie has the best combo of upside and the ability to reach that upside.

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Came close to picking McKenzie but went with Besko for reasons I can't quite articulate. I don't know, he's still on a positive career track, he's still got the raw tools and size to be a formidable goalie if he puts it together, and he's more than prepared to handle the professional workload... I want to see at least a .905 or higher SV% in Idaho this year.

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i think mckenzie has the best combo of upside and the ability to reach that upside.
I'm going to have to disagree. As of right now, he has the best shot at making the NHL of the remaining forwards. That's because he can play a Bottom 6 role, and they really wouldn't excel as a grinder. That doesn't mean he has the most upside. Korostin has more upside, but I doubt he'll ever reach it. I'd also never rate him above McKenzie though. Reilly Smith and Alex Guptill have more upside, and at this point it's a toss up on who I'd vote for next.

McKenzie, the way he describes himself and the way he plays in Miami right now, seems like a potential checking line forward with the ability to chip in some offense.

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“I’m a physical player. I’m a hard worker, have to get to the net all the time. When I am generating offense it’s coming off my hard work and my physical play. I’d say power forward.”
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“[Miami's] defensive system is awesome. We can open up when we have the chance, so we’re not being held back with our skill. Definitely our defensive system has helped our team get to the Frozen Four, and for myself it’s helped fine tune my defensive game. You need that to play at the higher levels.”
I just don’t think he’ll be a Top 6 forward in the mold of Ryan Smyth or Brendan Morrow. That’s not a negative, IMO. He could be an extremely valuable player for the Stars still. He could even turn himself into a PP specialist like Steve Ott did, in front of the net.

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I'm going to have to disagree. As of right now, he has the best shot at making the NHL of the remaining forwards. That's because he can play a Bottom 6 role, and they really wouldn't excel as a grinder. That doesn't mean he has the most upside. Korostin has more upside, but I doubt he'll ever reach it. I'd also never rate him above McKenzie though. Reilly Smith and Alex Guptill have more upside, and at this point it's a toss up on who I'd vote for next.

McKenzie, the way he describes himself and the way he plays in Miami right now, seems like a potential checking line forward with the ability to chip in some offense.





I just donít think heíll be a Top 6 forward in the mold of Ryan Smyth or Brendan Morrow. Thatís not a negative, IMO. He could be an extremely valuable player for the Stars still. He could even turn himself into a PP specialist like Steve Ott did, in front of the net.

I never said he had the most upside. I said he has the best COMBO of upside and the ability to reach it.

The sum being greater than the individual parts.

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I never said he had the most upside. I said he has the best COMBO of upside and the ability to reach it.

The sum being greater than the individual parts.
I know what you said, and I still disagree.

His upside is a Top 6 forward. That's what you are saying, correct? You also feel he is more likely to reach that potential.

All I was saying is I think he's a checking line forward in the NHL. Reilly Smith and Alex Guptill on the other hand could be Top 6 forwards, and I think Smith has a better shot of reaching that potential than McKenzie. I donít know about Guptill because I havenít seen him play, but thereís not doubt between Smith and McKenzie on who is more talented offensive forward.

McKenzie has a better shot of making the NHL because I think he has more offensive ability than Dallasí other defensive forwards, and Reilly Smith has to fight Loui Eriksson, James Neal, Jamie Benn, Scott Glennie, and a slew of other forwards for potential Top 6 winger duty in the NHL. Smith is probably a guy who will flourish on another team if he ever makes it in the NHL, but I still think he has more talent than McKenzie.

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