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07-26-2010, 12:40 AM
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(1) Kostitsyn-Gomez-Gionta

Imagine Kostsitsyn shooting a lot more, benefiting from Gomez's famous backpass at the blue line.

(2) Cammalleri-Pleks-Boyd (or Lapierre)

Pleks needs someone to fight battles along the boards but at the same time who is talented enough; someone like Burrows. Boyd still needs progression, but he could compliment that line if he improves enough. Lapierre could be another option. His intensity and board play and scoring touch could help this line.

(3) Pacioretty-Eller-Pouliot

As we saw from the Philly serie, we need more depth. Eller is a good start, but he needs to play with talented players. Plus Pouliot and Pacioretty are fast, young, tall, talented, they are on the verge of becoming useful players.

(4) Moen-Pyatt-Lapierre (or Boyd)

Pretty solid energy line that knows how to play within Martin's system.


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07-26-2010, 02:45 AM
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(1) Kostitsyn-Gomez-Gionta

Imagine Kostsitsyn shooting a lot more, benefiting from Gomez's famous backpass at the blue line.

(2) Cammalleri-Pleks-Boyd (or Lapierre)

Pleks needs someone to fight battles along the boards but at the same time who is talented enough; someone like Burrows. Boyd still needs progression, but he could compliment that line if he improves enough. Lapierre could be another option. His intensity and board play and scoring touch could help this line.

(3) Pacioretty-Eller-Pouliot

As we saw from the Philly serie, we need more depth. Eller is a good start, but he needs to play with talented players. Plus Pouliot and Pacioretty are fast, young, tall, talented, they are on the verge of becoming useful players.

(4) Moen-Pyatt-Lapierre (or Boyd)

Pretty solid energy line that knows how to play within Martin's system.

I like this lineup but I'd rather see a slight change

Kostitsyn-Gomez-Gionta
Cammalleri-Pleks-Pouliot
Pacioretty-Eller-Boyd
Moen-Pyatt-Lapierre

We'd need a bigger body with Cammy and Plecks than Boyd and Pouliot is more deserving of a top 6 role and he has a higher upside.

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07-26-2010, 05:20 AM
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(1) Kostitsyn-Gomez-Gionta

Imagine Kostsitsyn shooting a lot more, benefiting from Gomez's famous backpass at the blue line.

(2) Cammalleri-Pleks-Boyd (or Lapierre)

Pleks needs someone to fight battles along the boards but at the same time who is talented enough; someone like Burrows. Boyd still needs progression, but he could compliment that line if he improves enough. Lapierre could be another option. His intensity and board play and scoring touch could help this line.

(3) Pacioretty-Eller-Pouliot

As we saw from the Philly serie, we need more depth. Eller is a good start, but he needs to play with talented players. Plus Pouliot and Pacioretty are fast, young, tall, talented, they are on the verge of becoming useful players.

(4) Moen-Pyatt-Lapierre (or Boyd)

Pretty solid energy line that knows how to play within Martin's system.
I like your line up, especially seeing Kostitsyn back on the left wing. If Andrei starts on the first line and Pouliot is on the third I do see there being one difference at least to start the season which I'll preface by saying it's not what I think should happen but based on Martin's faith in the guy we're likely to see.

Kostitsyn-Gomez-Gionta
Cammalleri-Plekanec-Darche
Pouliot-Eller-Boyd
Moen-Pyatt-Lapierre

During the playoffs I can't count how many times people questioned Darche getting time on one of our top two lines and during the power play and simply put Martin has faith in the guy with reason. He's not a great skater at all but he's a big body as I learnt today (TSN has him listed at 6'1'', 220lbs) and he has produced at all levels but the NHL. Again, not necessarily what I'd do but rather what I think is likely to happen based on what we've seen through the playoffs and in the off season. If this experiment fails then I think we could expect to see Pacioretty up there but I think Eller will get a good look on that wing before that happens, especially because Pouliot, Boyd, Lapierre and Pyatt (correct me if I'm wrong) can play center and on the wing.

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07-26-2010, 06:06 AM
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I like this lineup but I'd rather see a slight change

Kostitsyn-Gomez-Gionta
Cammalleri-Pleks-Pouliot
Pacioretty-Eller-Boyd
Moen-Pyatt-Lapierre

We'd need a bigger body with Cammy and Plecks than Boyd and Pouliot is more deserving of a top 6 role and he has a higher upside.
The thing is that a Pacioretty-Eller-Boyd line would miss an offensive threat. Both Eller and Pacioretty are playmakers. Pouliot would be an excellent sniper on that line, and it would spread our offensive depth.

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I like your line up, especially seeing Kostitsyn back on the left wing. If Andrei starts on the first line and Pouliot is on the third I do see there being one difference at least to start the season which I'll preface by saying it's not what I think should happen but based on Martin's faith in the guy we're likely to see.

Kostitsyn-Gomez-Gionta
Cammalleri-Plekanec-Darche
Pouliot-Eller-Boyd
Moen-Pyatt-Lapierre

During the playoffs I can't count how many times people questioned Darche getting time on one of our top two lines and during the power play and simply put Martin has faith in the guy with reason. He's not a great skater at all but he's a big body as I learnt today (TSN has him listed at 6'1'', 220lbs) and he has produced at all levels but the NHL. Again, not necessarily what I'd do but rather what I think is likely to happen based on what we've seen through the playoffs and in the off season. If this experiment fails then I think we could expect to see Pacioretty up there but I think Eller will get a good look on that wing before that happens, especially because Pouliot, Boyd, Lapierre and Pyatt (correct me if I'm wrong) can play center and on the wing.
I didn't think of Darche. Who knows, it could work. And he has enough hockey IQ to follow the play.

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Does anyone know that Cammalleri plays on the right wing, not the left....

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heres my lineup for October:

Pacioretty-Gomez-Gionta
Cammalleri-Pleks-Pouliot
Moen-Eller-Boyd
Kostitsyn-Pyatt-Lapierre
Darche

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Does anyone know that Cammalleri plays on the right wing, not the left....
LOL

I kinda remember a few of those one timing, on the knee goals coming from the right. I really do.

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Cammalleri-Plekanec-AKost
Pouliot-Gomez-Gionta
Pacioretty-Eller-Boyd
Moen-Pyatt-Lapierre
Darche

Markov - Subban
Spacek - Hamrlik
Gorges - Gill
O'Byrne

I like our bottom 6 much much more with the addition of Boyd and Eller. Gives us nice offensive depth.

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07-26-2010, 11:15 AM
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Cammalleri-Plekanec-AKost
Pouliot-Gomez-Gionta
Pacioretty-Eller-Boyd
Moen-Pyatt-Lapierre
Darche

Markov - Subban
Spacek - Hamrlik
Gorges - Gill
O'Byrne

I like our bottom 6 much much more with the addition of Boyd and Eller. Gives us nice offensive depth.
Why is gill on the right?

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LOL

I kinda remember a few of those one timing, on the knee goals coming from the right. I really do.
Cammy started the season as a LW, He played LW with Calgary with Iginla on the RW.

But towards the end of the season, he was playing more RW, especially on PP with A.K being totally ineffective.

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I didn't think of Darche. Who knows, it could work. And he has enough hockey IQ to follow the play.
The thing with Darche is can he handle regurlarly the rigors of the NHL.

IMO he cannot sustain a lot of ice time in the top 6.

With all the qualities he has shown, I could easily see him with Eller and Boyd.


AK - Gomer - Gionta
Cammy - Pleks - Pouliot
Boyd - Eller - Darche
Moen - Pyatt - Lapierre
White

Also, most probably just me, but are all of our shooters best fitted on the LW? I mean:
AK
Cammy
Pouliot
Boyd (apparently)

I think we need to be careful and properly mix our wingers. Moreso when we consider the physical aspect, let's say having Cammy and Gionta on the same wing.

This would make us way to predictable.

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07-26-2010, 11:46 AM
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I would try these (before Markov's comeback)

A.K. - Gomez - Camalleri

Pouliot - Plekanec - Gionta

Moen - Eller - Lapierre

Pyatt - Boyd - White


Spacek - O'Byrne

Hamrlik - Subban

Gill - Gorges


extras: any of Darche, Paccioretty, Desharnais, Maxwell, Carle or Weber.

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Zednik - Koivu - Kovalev
Ryder - Ribeiro - Perreault
Bulis - Juneau - Dackell
Kilger - Begin - Sundstrom

Markov - Brisebois
Souray - Rivet
Bouillon - Komisarek

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Zednik - Koivu - Kovalev
Ryder - Ribeiro - Perreault
Bulis - Juneau - Dackell
Kilger - Begin - Sundstrom

Markov - Brisebois
Souray - Rivet
Bouillon - Komisarek
I have a novel idea!

We should split Kovalev and Koivu to balance the lines. They can't play together anyways, they hate each other

We should give a chance to Higgins and Plekanec also. Higgins will be the 3rd or 2nd line center of the future while Plekanec should do at least as good as Kilger (Chad is much bigger however. Plekanec won't be much more than an average 3rd liner at best). Oh, and were is Dagenais? Best sniper in the league :


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Zednik - Koivu - Kovalev
Ryder - Ribeiro - Perreault
Bulis - Juneau - Dackell
Kilger - Begin - Sundstrom

Markov - Brisebois
Souray - Rivet
Bouillon - Komisarek
If the Habs go with that defensive unit may I suggest they add another half dozen to dozen d-men for added depth to fill in for the injured.

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LOL

I kinda remember a few of those one timing, on the knee goals coming from the right. I really do.
i do remember too ! damn i can't find it on youtube...

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Cammy started the season as a LW, He played LW with Calgary with Iginla on the RW.

But towards the end of the season, he was playing more RW, especially on PP with A.K being totally ineffective.
And i think i was his best position.

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I like the idea of playing Eller with Pouliot and MaxPac but I'm not sure Pacioretty would be ready. Pouliot-Eller-Boyd I would love to see. But in both instances, one leftie would have to play on the right wing.

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(1) Kostitsyn-Gomez-Gionta

Imagine Kostsitsyn shooting a lot more, benefiting from Gomez's famous backpass at the blue line.

(2) Cammalleri-Pleks-Boyd (or Lapierre)

Pleks needs someone to fight battles along the boards but at the same time who is talented enough; someone like Burrows. Boyd still needs progression, but he could compliment that line if he improves enough. Lapierre could be another option. His intensity and board play and scoring touch could help this line.

(3) Pacioretty-Eller-Pouliot

As we saw from the Philly serie, we need more depth. Eller is a good start, but he needs to play with talented players. Plus Pouliot and Pacioretty are fast, young, tall, talented, they are on the verge of becoming useful players.

(4) Moen-Pyatt-Lapierre (or Boyd)

Pretty solid energy line that knows how to play within Martin's system.
I made a thread about it a few months ago, and I think Lapierre could fit very nicely beside Camm and Pleky. A right handed shot with speed, who is defensively responsible, willing to do all the dirty work, and has underrated skill and puck cycling ability. I think it could be a match made in heaven.

The one issue I have with a Pac/Eller/Pou line is that all three are very inexperienced, and I'd bet Martin would sit them quite a bit.

I think it's safe to say though, that we will see tons of different line combos throughout the season.

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You guys like Plek over Gomez?

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You guys like Plek over Gomez?
They make up a very good 1a/1b combo on the top 2 lines. Generally I put the Pleks line first as Pleks plays with Cammy, and Cammy is definitely our #1 go-to forward.

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Cammalleri - Plekanec - Kostitsyn/Eller
Pouliot - Gomez - Gionta
Boyd/Kostitsyn - Eller/Boyd - Trotter
Moen - Pyatt - Lapierre/White

Markov - Spacek
Hamrlik - Subban
Gill - Gorges
O'Byrne

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- When Kostitsyn slacks too much, promote Eller on the 1st line as a winger for stints to see how he adapts and how he fits with a guy like Cammalleri. Play Boyd as the 3rd line center, and Kostitsyn on the 3rd line.

- Lapierre shouldn't be higher than the 4th line.

- Hamrlik must play with Subban, not only to mentor him, but because he badly needs a mobile linemate like Subban. He's also going to be more efficient playing a stay-at-home style at this point of his career.

- White should be given a legit chance of taking Lapierre's spot. He's all what Lapierre is, plus he's stronger, nastier, more physical and has just as good defensive instinct.


Would have been cool to find an efficient player and sign him to an "Afinogenov-like" contract to play on our 3rd line with Eller and Boyd. Let's just hope Trotter stays and proves to be a very good player for us. He's made his classes in the AHL, and he deserves a legit shot at making it going forward IMHO. Plus, he's pretty much our best winger in terms of offensive upside who can play a role in the NHL for the time being.

In 2010-2011, the portrait should ideally look like:

Cammalleri - Plekanec - UFA (about 6M)
Pouliot - Gomez - Gionta
Pacioretty/Avtsin - Eller - Boyd
Moen - Pyatt - White

Markov - UFA (about 5M to 7M)
Spacek - Subban
Gorges - O'Byrne

Price
UFA (about 2M)

2011-2012 is when we must be competitive. If we ever have a particular "window" where we can win and be considered contenders, it's going to be that particular season. We have loads of cash to spend next summer with our core being already signed going forward. Ideally, we'd put Chara, Semin and Smith under contract. Realistically, I'd like if we could keep the players aforementionned, while getting Backes to play with Cammy and Pleks, Phillips to play with Andrei Markov, and Craig Anderson as our backup.


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heres my lineup for October:

Pacioretty-Gomez-Gionta
Cammalleri-Pleks-Pouliot
Moen-Eller-Boyd
Kostitsyn-Pyatt-Lapierre
Darche
Why on earth would you put AK on the fourth line?

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AKosts - Gomez - Gionta
Eller - Plekanec - Cammy
Pouliot - Boyd - Lapierre
Moen - Pyatt - White

Markov - Spacek
Hamrlik - Subban
Gill - Georges

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LOL

I kinda remember a few of those one timing, on the knee goals coming from the right. I really do.
On the PP. As far as 5 on 5 is concerned he always lined up on the left side.

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