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07-23-2010, 11:11 AM
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A third line with all kids is kind of a recipe for disaster. I'd like a vet somewhere on that line.

I'm also very interested in seeing what the new blood in the organization thinks about our goaltending prospects. This shakes the landscape quite a bit as the old crew kind of turned a shoulder to Ramo and Helenius, and both of them have the athleticism to be NHL goaltenders. Hell, Ramo put on a damn decent showing in his time here, before heading back over the pond.

I think one of them will be back in the mix, and wouldn't be surprised if it were Helenius.

EDIT: Er, not Ramo.
You have it kind of backwards there. It was Ramo who stuck it to the organization. He was very much in there plans and at the very last minute, he jumped ship. He rubbed a lot of people the wrong way on that one. (Not that I have a problem with anyone sticking it to Brian Lawton, of course. )

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07-23-2010, 12:27 PM
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You have it kind of backwards there. It was Ramo who stuck it to the organization. He was very much in there plans and at the very last minute, he jumped ship. He rubbed a lot of people the wrong way on that one. (Not that I have a problem with anyone sticking it to Brian Lawton, of course. )
I hear what you're saying and that certainly can't be discounted, but i'd imagine the new people would consider that just a general discontent with the team in general at that point in time.

I know you love yourself some Brian Lawton

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07-23-2010, 01:02 PM
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You have it kind of backwards there. It was Ramo who stuck it to the organization. He was very much in there plans and at the very last minute, he jumped ship. He rubbed a lot of people the wrong way on that one. (Not that I have a problem with anyone sticking it to Brian Lawton, of course. )
The problem with Ramo was that he was inconsistent. Something wrong with his mental makeup. He would play one game, positionally sound, great athleticism and just really steal the game from the other team. Point taken first game he played against Toronto. Then he would have games where his positioning was really really off and he just got sniped all day and was lit up like a christmas tree.

I think with a good goalie coach he can actually be a solid netminder in the NHL. Honestly though, I think that ship has sailed. I was probably the biggest Ramo supporter when he was here saying that....

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07-23-2010, 02:34 PM
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The problem with Ramo was that he was inconsistent. Something wrong with his mental makeup. He would play one game, positionally sound, great athleticism and just really steal the game from the other team. Point taken first game he played against Toronto. Then he would have games where his positioning was really really off and he just got sniped all day and was lit up like a christmas tree.

I think with a good goalie coach he can actually be a solid netminder in the NHL. Honestly though, I think that ship has sailed. I was probably the biggest Ramo supporter when he was here saying that....
He got away (for many years) with not controlling his rebounds. Caught up quick in the NHL.

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07-23-2010, 02:36 PM
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rumors have the Lightning close to sign forward Marc Pouliot

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07-23-2010, 02:40 PM
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rumors have the Lightning close to sign forward Marc Pouliot
Need a source if you're going to quote around here...

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Need a source if you're going to quote around here...
its only a strong ''rumour'' for now.

You'll have a source as soon as a media get the story.

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07-23-2010, 02:44 PM
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925k last year when up.... i'd rather spend a touch more and get Asham.

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rumors have the Lightning close to sign forward Marc Pouliot
Be a solid bottom 6 guy IMO. Probably a fourth liner on our team. I would like the signing though.

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925k last year when up.... i'd rather spend a touch more and get Asham.
it will be 550K and 2 way deal I think

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Not bad. Wonder if they're considering him for more of a Norfolk spot and snagging Craig and/or Hall to bring back to Tampa...

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Not bad. Wonder if they're considering him for more of a Norfolk spot and snagging Craig and/or Hall to bring back to Tampa...
Craig signed with Penguins...

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Craig signed with Penguins...
Did he? Where have I been....

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Craig signed with Penguins...
He did? Damn! I was hoping he would make the team again sometime next season.

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He did? Damn! I was hoping he would make the team again sometime next season.
http://lightning.nhl.com/club/page.htm?id=63231

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Boucher was Pouliot's assistant coach in Rimouski so it makes sense.

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#TBLightning sign former Edmonton first-round pick Marc-Antoine Pouliot to a two-way contract on Friday, details coming

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Downie-Stamkos-STL
Gagne-Vinny-Malone
Purcell- -Harju
Thompson-Pouliot

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So now we have (on their respective natural position):

C:
Stamkos
Lecavalier
Szczechura
Pouliot
Thompson
Jones
Wright
Ashton
Fadden

LW:
Gagne
Malone
Harju
Fritz
Simek (RFA)

RW:
St. Louis
Downie (RFA)
Purcell
Persson
Hall
Tyrell

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07-23-2010, 06:26 PM
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Pouliot will be our 3rd center?

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07-23-2010, 08:06 PM
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Thought Ashton was a RW

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07-23-2010, 08:14 PM
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Vincent Lecavalier ($7.727m) / Simon Gagne ($5.250m) / Martin St. Louis ($5.250m)
Ryan Malone ($4.500m) / Steven Stamkos ($3.725m) / Steve Downie ($2.125m)
Ted Purcell ($0.750m) / MA Pouliot ($0.625m) / Johan Harju ($0.900m)
/ Nate Thompson ($0.625m) / Adam Hall ($0.600m)

DEFENSEMEN
Pavel Kubina ($3.850m) / Mattias Ohlund ($3.607m)
Victor Hedman ($3.500m) / Brett Clark ($1.500m)
Mike Lundin ($0.750m) / Matt Lashoff ($0.550m)
Matt Smaby ($0.525m)

GOALTENDERS
Mike Smith ($2.200m) /Dan Ellis ($1.500m)

BUYOUTS: Vaclav Prospal ($1.166m) / Todd Fedoruk ($0.308m)

CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled using the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $59,400,000; CAP PAYROLL: $51,534,416; BONUSES: $5,562,500
CAP SPACE (20-man roster): $12,320,584


Great line-up with 12M still to spend

ps. If Perron signed for 4.3M over 2 years. Is it fair to say Downie signs for the same???

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07-23-2010, 08:26 PM
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In my NHL09, has 3rd line (Harju-Pouliot-Purcell) +3 in combination

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07-24-2010, 04:56 AM
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Thought Ashton was a RW
Yeah thought so too and BP has him as RW but Lightning homepage has him as C.

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07-24-2010, 08:00 AM
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Yeah thought so too and BP has him as RW but Lightning homepage has him as C.
I usually go by whatever THN's depth chart lists them as:

http://forecaster.thehockeynews.com/...thchart.cgi?TB

I think all of that content is actually run by The Sports Forecaster, but whoever it's been, they've been very up-to-date on having the right players listed in the right places.

They have Ashton as RW primarily, but one that can also play LW.

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07-27-2010, 02:32 PM
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Ok, capgeek finally has Pouliot and Durno's numbers.

both are 2-way deals for one year at $550,000 NHL and $105,000 AHL

Meaning that with this roster...

CAPGEEK.COM CAP CALCULATOR

FORWARDS
Steve Downie ($2.500m) / Steven Stamkos ($3.725m) / Martin St. Louis ($5.250m)
Simon Gagne ($5.250m) / Vincent Lecavalier ($7.727m) / Ryan Malone ($4.500m)
Ted Purcell ($0.750m) / Marc-Antoine Pouliot ($0.550m) / Johan Harju ($0.900m)
Paul Szczechura ($0.550m) / Nate Thompson ($0.625m) / Blair Jones ($0.550m)
Chris Durno ($0.550m)

DEFENSEMEN
Pavel Kubina ($3.850m) / Mattias Ohlund ($3.607m)
Victor Hedman ($3.500m) / Brett Clark ($1.500m)
Mike Lundin ($0.750m) / Matt Lashoff ($0.550m)
Matt Smaby ($0.525m)

GOALTENDERS
Mike Smith ($2.200m) /Dan Ellis ($1.500m)

BUYOUTS: Vaclav Prospal ($1.166m) / Todd Fedoruk ($0.308m)

CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled using the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $59,400,000; CAP PAYROLL: $52,884,416; BONUSES: $5,562,500
CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $10,970,584

...we've got enough room to do quite a bit more tweaking to the lineup, and still come in well under the cap.

Ashton and Wright's cap hits both come in at over $1 million each. If you subtract two of the above forwards for A&W, you've got less to work with, which may not matter if Yzerman and Vinik decide to not spend to the cap this season.

Depending on how close we actually get to that cap may determine who, if either ends up making the team. If the point isn't already moot by then.

I'm going to assume that Wright will play for either Norfolk or Tampa. His contract is on a non-stop collision course for expiration, and I'd prefer to not throw a year of it away.

I'm figuring that Downie will get near 2.5 as Matt Moulson and Mason Raymond signed for similar amounts after posting similar numbers.


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