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07-29-2010, 12:27 PM
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" So Mario, Price has allowed 5 goals tonight; what would you do if you were Jacques Martin ? "
" well he's never won a cup and he's no Roy ... so this is good experience "

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So you stopped watching a sport because of one person? That says more about you than it does about Mario Tremblay.
Relax, I was a 7 year old at the time

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" So Mario, Price has allowed 5 goals tonight; what would you do if you were Jacques Martin ? "
Keep him there ! LOL

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07-29-2010, 12:35 PM
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I understand clearly. Hence why I'll repeat it again: Stop living in the past. It has happened and it's not actuality anymore. Nobody enjoyed that episode but it's 15 years ago. Do you knock on yourself on mistakes (you could not know you were doing at the time, otherwise you would not have done) you have made 15 years ago?

I know that for my own sanity, I will be focusing on the present, appreciate his fresh contribution (which will, let's hope, lower G. Therrien and similars' contributions) and wish him the best luck in his future career and health. He worked hard for all his life (which is proved by his pedigree and the type of player he was) and deserves respect for who he is, and what he has achieved. I do not believe calling your fellow neighbor a "Retard" because he made a mistake improves your own condition, nor is it a proof of your maturity and your quality as a fan (more likely the opposite). Up to you to recieve the deep sincere and compassionate message I've just sent you, or to remain stuck on your blind hate (which binds you to a past-actual-future loop of sadness).
As a fan, I prefer to dislike him than to like him. If this is real-world business or if he married my sister or if he became the coach of the blue jackets, I would honestly care less. If I were to bump into him on the street, in a bar, I would not punch his face in nor would I hold a grudge.

I just do not want to watch him 82 nights / season.

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http://sportnographe.radio-canada.ca...nde-12981.html

Here's a audio clip of him and Réjean Tremblay going at it.
Is it me, or the link is dead ?

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Anyone think Yankee fans would ever accept this??? LOL

Only in Quebec !

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Anyone think Yankee fans would ever accept this??? LOL

Only in Quebec !
Calm down man

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Anyone think Yankee fans would ever accept this??? LOL

Only in Quebec !
I'm sure Yankee fans know a lot about Mario tremblay.

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Anyone think Yankee fans would ever accept this??? LOL

Only in Quebec !
I'm sure a lot of other places forgive and forget.

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Calm down man
Right, forgot we're forgiving ... our fans don't hold long term grudges.. we just boo players based on their last shift or game. That's more sophisticated.

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I liked him as an analyst before with TQS. Wish him the best.

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I'm sure a lot of other places forgive and forget.
Not in NY ... the most winning franchise in N.America.

I guess the hab fans are not in the same league as the yankee fans in that way.

I forgot how mediocre and amateur everything that surrounds this organization is, ending with RDS and it's viewers.

This team is turning into a freaking joke ... or maybe it's just like every other city ... thought we were special and had higher expectations , my bad. I should know by now!

/ rant

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Dans une entrevue accordée à La Presse la semaine dernière, Tremblay déplorait le peu d'espace accordé aux entraîneurs francophones dans la LNH, en affirmant n'avoir reçu aucune offre pour diriger une équipe lors des 10 dernières saisons.
Sounds like he'll fit right in with the RDS crew but is he kidding about being surprised at not being offered another chance? You don't throw the best goaltender of all time out of town just to show the other guys in the room who's the boss and expect another headcoach job. I don't give a **** if Roy expected Tremblay to shine his skates before games, you just find a way to keep the guy happy and on your team. That is also part of a headcoach's job. And for those of you who are saying it's Houle that trading Roy, you're absolutely right. He chose a rookie coach over the man that almost singlehandly won the team's last 2 Cups. But it should not have gotten there. Tremblay should have adjusted a long time before Roy went to Houle. Both of them should be banned from the BC.

Having to listen to Tremblay during Habs games is like catching your girlfriend cheating on you with another guy in your own bed and go make them sandwishes.


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"Why did they pull Price? I would have kept him in."

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Not in NY ... the most winning franchise in N.America.

I guess the hab fans are not in the same league as the yankee fans in that way.

I forgot how mediocre and amateur everything that surrounds this organization is, ending with RDS and it's viewers.

This team is turning into a freaking joke ... or maybe it's just like every other city ... thought we were special and had higher expectations , my bad. I should know by now!

/ rant
Please explain me, considering the team's actual improvement and last playoff run, the talented youth coming from Hamilton, the team's core, the actual management (PG and JM are seasoned professionals, wether you like them or not), the Molson family securing this team's future, how you can justify your statement that this team is "turning into a freaking joke" and that you seem to be unsatisfied according to your "higher expectations".

Less dramatization, more realism, and less confusion please. RDS is a total, distinct, independant, sovereign entity and has no DIRECT relationship with the CH's decisions, and vice-versa (other than TV rights, which are related to money and marketing only). RDS as an enterprise has a philosophy (wether we agree with it or not does not matter), it's not turning into a joke, it's making profits, and by our actual economy and social standards, money-related stats are the modern times' dictators. RDS is RDS, Canadiens are the Canadiens. Holocaust is NOT similar to Roy-Tremblay, none of your analogies work (Not even NYY and CH since it is a different country, culture, population, medias' reality, sport, history, management, MLB's reality and NHL's realities are VERY different).

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07-29-2010, 01:10 PM
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Replacing a stuttering man for a lumberjack.

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Not in NY ... the most winning franchise in N.America.

I guess the hab fans are not in the same league as the yankee fans in that way.

I forgot how mediocre and amateur everything that surrounds this organization is, ending with RDS and it's viewers.

This team is turning into a freaking joke ... or maybe it's just like every other city ... thought we were special and had higher expectations , my bad. I should know by now!

/ rant
Because Mario Tremblay has been hired by RDS and most of us simply don't care, this team is turning into a freaking joke.

Makes sense.

I guess I don't feel the same way as you because I didn't know Randy Cunnworth before.

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I'm really happy with this nomination. Mario Tremblay "c'est un vrai".

I don't care what happened in the past while he was coaching the Habs. The guy has heart and we could see it when he was playing and we'll see it when he'll be speaking on RDS.

A nice mix of charisma, humor and emotion. I'd like him even more with Pierre Houde but I guess he'll be working in the studio...

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I'm not 15 and I remember when Roy was traded, even though I was young.

But why are you pissed off? It's just ****ing Tremblay on tv. He's not coach, GM or anything else in the Habs organization. He's been hired to give his opinion, nothing else. What's the problem?!
He might be overreacting, but it sure as hell is beta/loser as **** to act as if the guy never did anything wrong. He's the biggest reason why the best goalies of all time was traded out of the Habs (just read "Le Guerrier", and you'll see), and relatively, why this team ended up having 10+ years of mediocrity. Not feeling bitter when you watch/hear him is what's not normal if you actually care about the team.

That being said, coolasprICE; saying the Habs are now a mediocre organization in all aspects because RDS hires Mario Tremblay is dumb as ****. What did you expect? The Habs have no control whatsoever.

That being said, I can get over it. I don't hold good memories of the guy because of those obvious reasons, but he's not the reason why I won't be listening to RDS this season. Brunet (if still there), Stock, Gagnon, Langdeau, Bergeron, and now even Yannick Bouchard/Frederic Plante are plenty of reasons why I won't watch them when TSN airs Habs games.


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Replacing a stuttering man for a lumberjack.
You mind explaining this one further, seems scandal-worthy at first glace

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I'll give the guy a chance, but since I have no confidence in the decisions taken by RDS I'm pretty sure he'll be bad.

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Please explain me, considering the team's actual improvement and last playoff run, the talented youth coming from Hamilton, the team's core, the actual management (PG and JM are seasoned professionals, wether you like them or not), the Molson family securing this team's future, how you can justify your statement that this team is "turning into a freaking joke" and that you seem to be unsatisfied according to your "higher expectations".

Less dramatization, more realism, and less confusion please. RDS is a total, distinct, independant, sovereign entity and has no DIRECT relationship with the CH's decisions, and vice-versa (other than TV rights, which are related to money and marketing only). RDS as an enterprise has a philosophy (wether we agree with it or not does not matter), it's not turning into a joke, it's making profits, and by our actual economy and social standards, money-related stats are the modern times' dictators. RDS is RDS, Canadiens are the Canadiens. Holocaust is NOT similar to Roy-Tremblay, none of your analogies work (Not even NYY and CH since it is a different country, culture, population, medias' reality, sport, history, management, MLB's reality and NHL's realities are VERY different).
wow, where do I start? Ok, so we have a goalie who basically single handedly won 2 playoff rounds AND we lose him (for a prospect we still know little of ) .... but of course, the future has never been brighter! I mean, this team, the most historically rich team in all of hockey, THE MECCA of hockey that is Montreal ... and we have fans like you who are " oh so proud "! Sorry, I'm not a soccer mom and this isn't my 6 year old ego I have to tippy toe around.

Canadiens and RDS are affiliated, indirectly , directly .... really doesn't matter... In the business world, you are who your partners are. If you're a green business and your affiliates are some of the biggest polluters around, than you're in trouble.

In this case, we have a mediocre team and mediocre sports channel all uniting in delivering a mediocre product to fans that eat up the mediocrity.

And how the hell did I compare the holocaust to this Roy / Fiasco tragedy? My point was about forgiveness and sometimes certain things aren't always going to be accepted due to the history behind going into it. I'm sure there have been plenty of jewish holocaust survivors that had later driven BMW's and other German cars. And some that have not. Just like there are some fans that will grow a liking to Tremblay and some fans that will not forgive. I don't need to be educated on how the Holocaust was a bigger tragedy than losing Roy.




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Because Mario Tremblay has been hired by RDS and most of us simply don't care, this team is turning into a freaking joke.

Makes sense.

I guess I don't feel the same way as you because I didn't know Randy Cunnworth before.
Nice way to side track the issue with a Randy joke... ie: you know I'm right


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Yes, he was young and stupid - but does this mean I should forgive him and forget about the Roy Fiasco? It's like telling a holocaust survivor to start driving german cars because we are in 2010 and not in the 40's ... Aint gonna happen buddy! And that's just the way world spins.
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And come on, kostitsyn to Roy now? You do realize Roy single handedly won 2 cups with the Habs? Major fail of a comparison lol
Just pointing out that you compared the holocaust to the Roy fiasco, then you laugh about someone else's comparison.

If you hate him so much, here's a plan : don't listen to RDS everytime Tremblay is on air. If a mass effect of bitterness makes the ratings drop when he's on, he'll be fired. Without a job/self-esteem anymore, he will sink into depression, start drinking excessively and spend all his dough on dirty hookers and crack cocaine. By 2017, he'll be offering BJs at Carre St-Louis for 10 bucks and a loving smile. Vengeance shall be served!

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It is not because it is RDS. It's maybe because it is a media.

But I am pretty sure too, it is because Tremblay, as well as many other Quebec born coaches (or ex-Q coaches) don't have too many close friends in other organizations. And it is normal. You hire the guys you know best.

How come Mike Keenan had so many chances at NHL level ? And the Murray brothers ?
I am not sure it is directly RDS but... there are plenty of guy that get hired out of the media, Torterella, Laviolette, Keenan, hell even Barry Melrose.

Is it a coincidence that none have made it back from RDS? Maybe, but the pattern is there.

Does it have anything to do with the bottom of the barrel type mentality they have all the way through their reports? I dunno.

As for Keenan and the Murrays... the truth is, even if you you may not like them, they get results. They have a track record. And yes, maybe they made a few friends along the way. The fact that they have friends does not win them games, and only winning games keeps you employed.

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I think too much emphasis is put on the Patrick Roy trade to explain the downfall of this team in the mid-90's. I think there has been a serie of mistakes made, and it started under Serge Savard (even if I think Savard is the best GM we've had this past 25 years)

- June 1988 : Montreal 1st round draft pick : Éric Charron

- June 1989 : Montreal 1st round draft pick : Lindsay Vallis

- June 1991 : Montreal 1st round draft pick : Brent Bilodeau

- June 1992 : Montreal 1st round draft pick : David Wilkie

- June 1994 : Montreal 1st round draft pick : Brad Brown

- August 1994 : Montreal trades Guy Carbonneau to Dallas for Jim Montgomery

- February 1995 : Montreal trades John LeClair, Éric Desjardins and Gilbert Dionne to Philadelphia for Mark Recchi & 3rd round pick in 1995 (Martin Hohenberger)

- June 1995 : Montreal 1st round draft pick : Terry Ryan

- December 1995 : Montreal trades Patrick Roy and Mike Keane to Colorado for Jocelyn Thibault, Martin Rucinsky & Andrei Kovalenko

- June 1996 : Montreal 1st round draft pick : Matt Higgins

- August 1996 : Montreal trades Lyle Odelein to New Jersey for Stéphane Richer

- October 1996 : Montreal trades Pierre Turgeon, Craig Conroy and Rory Fitzpatrick to St. Louis for Shayne Corson, Murray Baron and a 5th round pick in 1997 (Genady Razin)

- November 1996 : Montreal trades Donald Brashear to Vancouver for Jassen Cullimore

- June 1997 : Montreal 1st round draft pick : Jason Ward

- January 1998 (during the ice storm!) : Montreal trades Darcy Tucker, Stéphane Richer & David Wilkie to Tampa Bay for Patrick Poulin, Mick Vukota & Igor Ulanov

- June 1998 : Montreal 1st round draft pick : Éric Chouinard

- March 1999 : Montreal trades Mark Recchi to Philadelphia for Dainius Zubrus, Flyers' 2nd round pick in 1999 (Matt Carkner), and a 4th round pick or a 6th round pick in 2000 (6th round, Scott Selig)

- March 1999 : Montreal trades Vincent Damphousse to San Jose for the 5th round pick (previously acquired from the Phoenix Coyotes - Marc-Andre Thinel) in 1999, 2nd round pick (later traded to Columbus - Kiel McLeod) in 2001 and a 1st round pick (Marcel Hossa) in 2000

- January 2000 : Montreal trades Scott Thornton to Dallas for Juha Lind

- June 2000 : Montreal 1st round draft pick : Marcel Hossa

Remove half of these mistakes, and this team would have been competitive no matter if Roy had been traded or not.

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