IIHF World ChampionshipDiscuss International Tournaments like the WJC, Olympics, and World Cup, as they take place, or discuss past tournaments. performances.
Predictions: World Cup Rosters (to be held in 2013?)
You guys did have an exceptionally old team in 04, 30.3 years old on average to be exact. I don't blame you for being more excited about the current crop.
While Canada wasn't super young in 04 there was a significant youth movement with the average age at 27.5. Bouwmeester was 21, Heatley was 23, Lecavaliver, Richards, Gagne, and Regehr were 24, Thornton, Marleau and Hannan were 25. And Iggy and Redden were both in their primes at 27.
Nevertheless I think the reasons 2012 will be a better tournament then '04 are twofold; infusion of youth worldwide, and allowing that youth to play skilled hockey.
Looking at defence it's obvious things are on the up and up.
Canada 2004
Niedermayer
Jovanovski
Redden
Foote
Brewer Hannan
Bouwmeester
Regehr
USA 2004
Chelios
Klee
Weinrich
Miller
Leetch
Rafalski
Gill
Canada 2010
Niedermayer
Pronger
Keith
Seabrook
Doughty
Boyle
Weber
USA 2010
E. Johnson
J. Johnson
Suter
Rafalski
Orpik
Gleason
Whitney
Keep in mind that both Pronger and Blake were injured for the 2004 World Cup, and replaced by Hannan and Bouwmeester. While Bouwmeester played well in the tournament, I'm not sure if Hannan even played. Regardless, our defense corps would have looked better with those two veterans in the lineup.
Keep in mind that both Pronger and Blake were injured for the 2004 World Cup, and replaced by Hannan and Bouwmeester. While Bouwmeester played well in the tournament, I'm not sure if Hannan even played. Regardless, our defense corps would have looked better with those two veterans in the lineup.
Good point. I still think on balance though the average Canadian d-man is more skilled now then in 04. Eric Brewer during the early part of the decade was a fine enough player but he wouldn't stand a chance of making the team nowadays.
Good point. I still think on balance though the average Canadian d-man is more skilled now then in 04. Eric Brewer during the early part of the decade was a fine enough player but he wouldn't stand a chance of making the team nowadays.
brewer is having enough trouble staying healthy for the blues
Good point. I still think on balance though the average Canadian d-man is more skilled now then in 04. Eric Brewer during the early part of the decade was a fine enough player but he wouldn't stand a chance of making the team nowadays.
I remember Kipper saying something like the olympics were his last national team games... well anyway we will have three great goalies so it doesn't matter really.
Probably everyone from the olympic team except switch neidermeyer with Suter perhaps? And if Morrow looks like he is slowing down then throw Doan in there to replace him since theyre both similar players
Probably everyone from the olympic team except switch neidermeyer with Suter perhaps? And if Morrow looks like he is slowing down then throw Doan in there to replace him since theyre both similar players
Probably everyone from the olympic team except switch neidermeyer with Suter perhaps? And if Morrow looks like he is slowing down then throw Doan in there to replace him since theyre both similar players
Ryan Suter?
If so, he is american
edit: lol someone beat me to it.
i'll do mine
Neal - Crosby - Nash
Marleau - Stamkos - St.Louis
Morrow - Toews - Perry
Burrows - Staal - Stewart
- Other forwards under consideration: Brian Gionta, Scott Gomez, Dustin Byfuglien, RJ Umberger, T.J. Oshie, Ryan Malone, Kyle Okposo.
- Other Defenseman under consideration: Keith Yandle, Brian Rafalski, Mike Komisarek, Jamie McBain.
- Other Goalies under consideration: Jon Quick.
- Prospects to watch: Cam Fowler, Chris Kreider, Jonathan Blum, Derek Stepan.
I'm going to say something that I'm sure will not be popular, but there's a forward you're missing on that list: Chris Drury.
Yeah, he's sucked in New York. But for 2 weeks in February, he was awesome. I want that Drury on the team. That Drury makes Team USA better.
If I'm Canada I'm setting up a team with an eye on future tournaments and Olympics (if NHL allows), so I'm going with "hungry" players under 30, unless that player is exceptional. So players like, Thornton, Marleau, Heatley, Pronger, Boyle, Iginla are outside looking in (they got their trophies).
Crosby
Toews
Getzlaf
E. Staal
Nash
Stamkos
Duchene
Perry
M. Richards
C. Stewart
Sharp
J. Staal
Taveres
If I'm Canada I'm setting up a team with an eye on future tournaments and Olympics (if NHL allows), so I'm going with "hungry" players under 30, unless that player is exceptional. So players like, Thornton, Marleau, Heatley, Pronger, Boyle, Iginla are outside looking in (they got their trophies).
Right. 2010 marked a changing of the guard for team Canada. Iginla and Morrow played very well, and at times Boyle and Pronger were great, but for the most part that tournament belonged to the under-25 movement let alone the old dudes. The San Jose line was mostly balls all tourney. Canada would be wise to get the Myers' and Stamkos' some time out there - Bettman won't be commish forever.
