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07-31-2010, 11:36 PM
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We can if we move Hammer, which they need, considering they have 3 NHL defensemen.
Bingo.

Throw in a first round pick, perhaps a little more from our side and all of sudden this rumor has some legs to stand on. Is it likely to happen? I'd have to say no, although I have to say acquiring a young proven talent like Ryan is very very intriguing to say the least. Hiller is a capable #1 right now, no doubt.

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I could see it being Hiller and Selanne/Kariya for Price +

I'm not saying this is something I would do, and I would be surprised that anyone thinks that Price is worth more than Hiller, but the unsigned top-6 forward in reality means nothing unless it's Ryan, which I doubt it is.

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I'd love to see this trade myself but I can't see it happening after trading away Halak .... How can they justify that trade (Halak) after?

You have to agree if a trade like this ever goes down, it's because of the difficulty they're having in signing Price

Could they have never envisioned a scenario where Price's contract demands would be too high if a "capable" backup or equal was not on the roster? They did things in the wrong order ... but then again, maybe they don't get an Eller type player if they wait until August. Who knows?

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But would you trade Price, AK, Hamrlik, Leblanc and Tinordi for Hiller and Ryan???


That deal opens salary for both, would you do it???

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How about Greiss/Niitymaki (sp?) + Setoguchi for Price? Considering that San Jose is a California team, and they and the Habs have traded in the past, seems like a fit. This is not a proposal, just fits the criteria of what Ek claims is on the table. Thoughts?

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08-01-2010, 01:15 AM
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LOL, Only way the Habs are trading Price is if he asks for a trade.

How dumb would it be that they trade both goalies?

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But would you trade Price, AK, Hamrlik, Leblanc and Tinordi for Hiller and Ryan???


That deal opens salary for both, would you do it???
Only way this trade gets done is if Gauther has a gun to his head, and Springfield is threatened by a new power source.

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08-01-2010, 01:19 AM
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LOL, Only way the Habs are trading Price is if he asks for a trade.

How dumb would it be that they trade both goalies?
If they can get great value for them and have a suitable replacement, it wouldn't be dumb at all.

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But would you trade Price, AK, Hamrlik, Leblanc and Tinordi for Hiller and Ryan???


That deal opens salary for both, would you do it???
Why would Leblanc and Tinordi be included?

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Only way this trade gets done is if Gauther has a gun to his head, and Springfield is threatened by a new power source.
Agreed, I know it's the off season, but that's the stretch of the year, so far, it'll get worst, I'm sure!

Come on! guys a little reality here.....

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Agreed, I know it's the off season, but that's the stretch of the year, so far, it'll get worst, I'm sure!

Come on! guys a little reality here.....
What trading an unsignable(ATM) forward, and your goalie, for one of the most promising young goalies in the league and a defensemen which you sorely need?

This is reality man.

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The starting point would have to be Hiller + Ryan for Price + Hamrlik + AK both for salary and Anaheim needing a D. And that's so much in favour of us that we'd have to add in some top end prospects like Kristo and Avtsin. Otherwise there's no way Anaheim does this.


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What trading an unsignable(ATM) forward, and your goalie, for one of the most promising young goalies in the league and a defensemen which you sorely need?

This is reality man.
You don't trade top prospects in a cap world, at least not 2 of them in the same trade... ;-)

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Bobby Ryan is exactly the player I'd want. I don't know what they would exactly want from us though. Price for Hiller would be a good deal for them. I think we'd have to give a forward to try and help them fill the void of losing Ryan, Maybe A kostitysn. And then we would have to give them a promising defenseman to actually make them consider the deal. O'byrne,Webber or Carle could all be used as bait. Hammer would have to be dealt in some seperate deal to clear cap space for this deal.

I really don't see montreal trading Price or the Ducks trading Ryan though. And trust me if Ryan is made available you know Brian Burke is working that phone like crazy. A package of Kaberle + Kadri would probably beat any deal we could muster.

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A lot of posters here seem to have failed math.

I'm just saying these are more huge contracts to add till 2014, at least Chicago has an excuse, they already won the cup.

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The starting point would have to be Hiller + Ryan for Price + Hamrlik + AK both for salary and Anaheim needing a D. And that's so much in favour of us that we'd have to add in some top end prospects like Kristo and Avtsin. Otherwise there's no way Anaheim does this.
They don't want to go into training camp with three NHL defensemen and a unsigned Ryan though.

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They don't want to go into training camp with three NHL defensemen and a unsigned Ryan though.
Why would they just trade Wisniewski?

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I really don't see montreal trading Price or the Ducks trading Ryan though. And trust me if Ryan is made available you know Brian Burke is working that phone like crazy. A package of Kaberle + Kadri would probably beat any deal we could muster.
I think they'd want a winger that can step into a top 6 roll immediately. Also Kaberle is only signed for one more year, so I doubt they'd be super interested in a deal that a year from now would have amounted to an unproven prospect for a 23 year old 35 goal scorer straight up.

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If they can get great value for them and have a suitable replacement, it wouldn't be dumb at all.
If they somehow come out out of this off season having lost Halak AND Price, then yes it would be ridiculously dumb.

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one thing i don't understand, didn't he not participant in the last habs camp because of an NCAA rule? If so, doesn't that mean he only just decided very recently to go to the Q?

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If they somehow come out out of this off season having lost Halak AND Price, then yes it would be ridiculously dumb.
IF, and that's a big IF, they manage to pry away Hiller and Bobby friggin Ryan out of Anaheim for Price++, like buddahsmoka said, it wouldn't be dumb, I'd even say it's great. A signed goalie, and a young power forward... ain't that what we need ??

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one thing i don't understand, didn't he not participant in the last habs camp because of an NCAA rule? If so, doesn't that mean he only just decided very recently to go to the Q?
Wrong thread ?

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some food for thought

Ryan Gomez Gionta
Cammaleri Plekanec AK
Pouliot Eller Boyd
Moen Lapierre Darche

Markov O'byrne
Spacek Subban
Gill Gorges

Picard / Carle / Weber

I like that line up a lot !

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some food for thought

Ryan Gomez Gionta
Cammaleri Plekanec AK
Pouliot Eller Boyd
Moen Lapierre Darche

Markov O'byrne
Spacek Subban
Gill Gorges

Picard / Carle / Weber

I like that line up a lot !
Add Andy Sutton, drop Darche from the fourth and replace him with MUSCLE and i would be happy !

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Just something I noticed this morning while re-reading Ek's comments which appear below. If you read carefully, there is an indication that the team he is hinting at has an unsigned top 6 forward but it does not specify that such top 6 forward would be that player included in the trade.

That got me thinking because hypothetically it could be Anaheim but instead of it being Ryan, it could be Perry in order to give them space to sign Ryan. Not sure where the other California teams fit though. Just food for thought.

On the Canadiens...

Still hearing they are talking trade and that Price may be swapped out for another starting goalie and top 6 forward...finally able to give you a clue....look one of the California teams...one who has a proven #1, and an unsigned top 6 forward....

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Just something I noticed this morning while re-reading Ek's comments which appear below. If you read carefully, there is an indication that the team he is hinting at has an unsigned top 6 forward but it does not specify that such top 6 forward would be that player included in the trade.

That got me thinking because hypothetically it could be Anaheim but instead of it being Ryan, it could be Perry in order to give them space to sign Ryan. Not sure where the other California teams fit though. Just food for thought.

On the Canadiens...

Still hearing they are talking trade and that Price may be swapped out for another starting goalie and top 6 forward...finally able to give you a clue....look one of the California teams...one who has a proven #1, and an unsigned top 6 forward....
Very good point indeed!... it makes more sense if it's not Ryan... Lupul or Perry could make sense, as long it's not Blake,...

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Very good point indeed!... it makes more sense if it's not Ryan... Lupul or Perry could make sense, as long it's not Blake,...
Cammalleri-Plekanec-Perry? Yes please.

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