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08-01-2010, 10:10 AM
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Maybe a deal with the Sharks,but Setoguchi signed a 1 year deal yesterday

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eck is wetting,

price will be in a habs uni, and we all know that

trade a couple prospects, and a 1st rounder for ryan?

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08-01-2010, 10:33 AM
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I love Price and think he's a keeper. That being said, I don't believe ANY player is untradable for the right price (excuse the pun).

So if Anaheim were to part with Hiller and Ryan or Perry for Price and Hamrlk, you'd be an idiot not to take the deal. Habs have about $4.7M in cap right now, so to trade Price and Hamr gives them $9M in cap which is more than enough for the above mentioned players. That would give us a proven play off goalie, and a big physical scoring winger that we've needed for some time.

The biggest problem with that is unless the cap goes up substantialy next year, we've locked into several players at huge contracts for several years and won't have much if any cap space to resign RFA's. That being said:

Cammy - Plex - Perry/Ryan
A. Kosty - Gomez - Gionta
Moen - Eller - Pouliot
Darche - Boyd - Lapiere

Markov - OB
Spacek - Subban
Gill - Gorges

Hiller
Auld

A little weak on D, but solid goaltending and one hell of an offense!

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08-01-2010, 10:35 AM
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I love Price and think he's a keeper. That being said, I don't believe ANY player is untradable for the right price (excuse the pun).

So if Anaheim were to part with Hiller and Ryan or Perry for Price and Hamrlk, you'd be an idiot not to take the deal. Habs have about $4.7M in cap right now, so to trade Price and Hamr gives them $9M in cap which is more than enough for the above mentioned players. That would give us a proven play off goalie, and a big physical scoring winger that we've needed for some time.

The biggest problem with that is unless the cap goes up substantialy next year, we've locked into several players at huge contracts for several years and won't have much if any cap space to resign RFA's. That being said:

Cammy - Plex - Perry/Ryan
A. Kosty - Gomez - Gionta
Moen - Eller - Pouliot
Darche - Boyd - Lapiere

Markov - OB
Spacek - Subban
Gill - Gorges

Hiller
Auld

A little weak on D, but solid goaltending and one hell of an offense!
I just can't see how on the market we could get Perry alone for Price and Hammer ?
Am i missing something here ?

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I just can't see how on the market we could get Perry alone for Price and Hammer ?
Am i missing something here ?
no offense to my fellow posters,

but mtl is not ridding themselves of price,


no trying to get ryan, would be a miracle and great if pg can pull that off...

i say he tempts ana with prospects and a 1st rounder, and keeps price

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Maybe with the Ducks defensive needs it is a bigger deal involving Markov and not Price.....







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I just can't see how on the market we could get Perry alone for Price and Hammer ?
Am i missing something here ?
Wiesznieski for a 3rd doesn't make much sense but it happened anyways.

I'm just having fun with the rumor on the Eklund rumor thread. Simple as that.

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But would you trade Price, AK, Hamrlik, Leblanc and Tinordi for Hiller and Ryan???


That deal opens salary for both, would you do it???
Wow this fan base I'm part of is going down the draine.

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and eck loves to play with the fan of the hab

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A lot of posters here seem to have failed math.

I'm just saying these are more huge contracts to add till 2014, at least Chicago has an excuse, they already won the cup.
Not saying that the rumour has any legs, but someone has mentioned something along those lines:

Hiller (4.5M) and Ryan (around 5M)

for

Price (unsigned), Hamrlik (5.5M) and Kostitsyn (3.25M)


How does the math work now?

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I love Price and think he's a keeper. That being said, I don't believe ANY player is untradable for the right price (excuse the pun).

So if Anaheim were to part with Hiller and Ryan or Perry for Price and Hamrlk, you'd be an idiot not to take the deal. Habs have about $4.7M in cap right now, so to trade Price and Hamr gives them $9M in cap which is more than enough for the above mentioned players. That would give us a proven play off goalie, and a big physical scoring winger that we've needed for some time.

The biggest problem with that is unless the cap goes up substantialy next year, we've locked into several players at huge contracts for several years and won't have much if any cap space to resign RFA's. That being said:

Cammy - Plex - Perry/Ryan
A. Kosty - Gomez - Gionta
Moen - Eller - Pouliot
Darche - Boyd - Lapiere

Markov - OB
Spacek - Subban
Gill - Gorges

Hiller
Auld

A little weak on D, but solid goaltending and one hell of an offense!
I agree on the bold area but I say no to this trade simply cause if you get a guy like Perry or Ryan, it's Ak and not Price. Hiller just has good has Price but way more expensive so side way move there.
Makes no sense for me to talk about trading Price and most rumour are fuled by him not being signed yet.

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Not saying that the rumour has any legs, but someone has mentioned something along those lines:

Hiller (4.5M) and Ryan (around 5M)

for

Price (unsigned), Hamrlik (5.5M) and Kostitsyn (3.25M)


How does the math work now?
what works better for me is

Ryan
for
Hamrlik and Kostitsyn

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LOL, Only way the Habs are trading Price is if he asks for a trade.

How dumb would it be that they trade both goalies?
Prior to the Halak trade, Gauthier was asked what he'd do with his goalie situation. Well of course, he went on by saying that every option will be analyzed. From not trading them, to trade one of them or trade BOTH OF THEM. You really have to wonder, even if he wanted to explain clearly that EVERY option would be looked at, why the hell would he include trading both of them in there 'cause like you said, it made no sense even to consider it or talk about it.

There's only one reason I would see trading both goalies as an option. That the "rumor" that Halak wanted out no matter what was indeed true. And that they would not be confidence in the possibility to see Price's potential come to fruitition here. Clearly, from everything they're saying, it doesn't appear as to be the case. But did those negotiations went sour? I believe he will get sign and we will see him. But are they suddenly feeling the pressure that Price will be under tremendous pressure as well and might not be able to deliver so might as well get the best you can get before his value drops a little?

All those things are to be considered.......if we would not have had Gauthier and Gainey still on top of this organization. With everything Gainey did to elevate the kid to the #1 goalie. Knowing how Gauthier and Gainey believes in the same things. You still have to believe that Price will always be our #1 goalie....till the public and media go sour on him Roy style, Price then ask for a trade and you know the rest....I just wish whatever happens we never come to that 'cause we all know the value of a trade like that....

And another reason why Price is and will always be their man. They have Auld as their #2 goalie. You don't get an average backup goaltender if your are not sure you don't have an elite goalie to do the #1 job. They surely think Price is already an elite goalie. Unless another elite comes back in a deal, elite that CANNOT equal money 'cause we don't have it, Price isn't going anywhere.

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agreed, price will sigh, get a ton of games, and improve.....

but...............could pg be talking to ana about markov????

makes more sense then the eck deal

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Wow this fan base I'm part of is going down the draine.

I wouldn't do it, I want to see who here would.

No way I want to lose Price or any top prospects, AK and Hamrlik...sure.

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Ryan
for
Hamrlik and Kostitsyn
Yeah, like that is gonna happen or even be fair value.

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08-01-2010, 12:20 PM
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Prior to the Halak trade, Gauthier was asked what he'd do with his goalie situation. Well of course, he went on by saying that every option will be analyzed. From not trading them, to trade one of them or trade BOTH OF THEM. You really have to wonder, even if he wanted to explain clearly that EVERY option would be looked at, why the hell would he include trading both of them in there 'cause like you said, it made no sense even to consider it or talk about it.

There's only one reason I would see trading both goalies as an option. That the "rumor" that Halak wanted out no matter what was indeed true. And that they would not be confidence in the possibility to see Price's potential come to fruitition here. Clearly, from everything they're saying, it doesn't appear as to be the case. But did those negotiations went sour? I believe he will get sign and we will see him. But are they suddenly feeling the pressure that Price will be under tremendous pressure as well and might not be able to deliver so might as well get the best you can get before his value drops a little?

All those things are to be considered.......if we would not have had Gauthier and Gainey still on top of this organization. With everything Gainey did to elevate the kid to the #1 goalie. Knowing how Gauthier and Gainey believes in the same things. You still have to believe that Price will always be our #1 goalie....till the public and media go sour on him Roy style, Price then ask for a trade and you know the rest....I just wish whatever happens we never come to that 'cause we all know the value of a trade like that....

And another reason why Price is and will always be their man. They have Auld as their #2 goalie. You don't get an average backup goaltender if your are not sure you don't have an elite goalie to do the #1 job. They surely think Price is already an elite goalie. Unless another elite comes back in a deal, elite that CANNOT equal money 'cause we don't have it, Price isn't going anywhere.
Right, but even when he said that, I never thought he'd trade both. Have you ever seen a team trade 2 goalies of this ilk? Markov is not getting traded and neither is Price.

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08-01-2010, 12:21 PM
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Not saying that the rumour has any legs, but someone has mentioned something along those lines:

Hiller (4.5M) and Ryan (around 5M)

for

Price (unsigned), Hamrlik (5.5M) and Kostitsyn (3.25M)


How does the math work now?
And when you look at this deal from Anaheim's perspective. Why in the hell would they even make this trade?

Hiller > Price
Ryan > Hamr/Kosty

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Well maybe Hiller is worth more than Price in your head but that's about it.

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Well maybe Hiller is worth more than Price in your head but that's about it.
No, I personally think the only people overrating Price's value are Hab fans.

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No, I personally think the only people overrating Price's value are Hab fans.
And Bob Gainey. Habs fans believes in Gainey.

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No, I personally think the only people overrating Price's value are Hab fans.
That's not true, he is very well projected by GM's around the league.

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No, I personally think the only people overrating Price's value are Hab fans.
Oh yeah, because there's plenty of 22 years old NHL goaltender with 134 games under their belt around the league.

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Oh yeah, because there's plenty of 22 years old NHL goaltender with 134 games under their belt around the league.
You don't get tired of repeating the same ****?

What does him being 22 and playing 134 games have to do with him being overrated?

He could be a great goalie, but he's not there yet. Also, it's funny how many fans call him elite. That's another laugher.

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And when you look at this deal from Anaheim's perspective. Why in the hell would they even make this trade?

Hiller > Price
Ryan > Hamr/Kosty
I personally see Price as having a better value than Hiller.

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