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08-01-2010, 10:09 AM
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Sure didn't feel like that many to me lol.
So true.. It seemed the sky was falling with the lack of scoring last year...

Just curious where this team ranked in the NHL in goals scored last year.. I am guessing right in the middle somewhere?

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08-01-2010, 10:24 AM
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This thread and comments made by some of the posters eerily remind me of posts/comments made before the start of last season.

"The Rangers are going to have a great offense because they are going to have three lines that can score"

"The team has five to six players that can score at least 20 goals"

I'm not knocking anybody and I think this team will be better offensively then last season, but I remember people thinking that Gaborik, Drury, Dubinsky, Callahan, Higgins, and Kotalik would score over 20 goals last year. But clearly:

Frolov >> Higgins/Kotalik

I think Frolov is going to have a solid year. He will get tons of ice time (Both even strength and on the PP) and will be playing with Gaborik, more then likely. Here are my predictions:

Gaborik: 43
Frolov: 31
Prospal: 12
Dubinsky: 21
Callahan: 18
Christiansen: 12
Anisimov: 16
Drury: 15
Avery: 10
MZA: 10
Boyle: 4
Prust: 5
Boogard: 1 (Hey he's gotta score sometime, right? lol)
MDZ: 10
Roszival: 7
Girardi: 5
Staal: 8
McD: 3
Eminger: 1
Gilroy: 4

Total: 236
This is more realistic than the OPs list.

I'll eat my shoe if this team even scores more than 260. There's a reason 4 of the top teams in the league were the only ones to do it last season.

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08-01-2010, 10:25 AM
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20+ goals:

Gaborik
Frolov
Dubinsky
Anisimov

15-19:

Drury
Prospal
Callahan
Christensen

10-15:

Zuccarello-Aasen
Grachev

1-9:

Stepan
Weise
Byers
Avery
Boyle
Prust
Gilroy
Girardi
Staal
McDonagh
Rozsival
Eminger
Williams

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08-01-2010, 10:40 AM
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20+ goals:

Gaborik
Frolov
Dubinsky
Anisimov

15-19:

Drury
Prospal
Callahan
Christensen

10-15:

Zuccarello-Aasen
Grachev

1-9:

Stepan
Weise
Byers
Avery
Boyle
Prust
Gilroy
Girardi
Staal
McDonagh
Rozsival
Eminger
Williams
You forgot

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Boogaard

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08-01-2010, 10:46 AM
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Gaborik: 46
Frolov: 28
Prospal: 18
Dubinsky: 23
Callahan: 17
Christensen: 11
Anisimov: 16
Drury: 13
Avery: 10
MZA: 10
Boyle: 4
Prust: 5
Boogard: 1
MDZ: 10
Roszival: 6
Girardi: 5
Staal: 8
McD: 2
Eminger: 3

Comes to around 240. Cant see them making it to 260. Its possible but unlikely.
That's a lofty expectation for sure!

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08-01-2010, 10:58 AM
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So true.. It seemed the sky was falling with the lack of scoring last year...

Just curious where this team ranked in the NHL in goals scored last year.. I am guessing right in the middle somewhere?
Only team below us in GF that made the playoffs was Montreal and Boston.

We were tied for 20th in the league with 222 GF (tied with Isles and Devils).

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08-01-2010, 11:00 AM
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No no no.

The same exact thing happened last offseason... posters predicting the Rangers would score well over 250 goals. 30 goals from Callahan, 25 goals each from Kotalik & Higgins, 20 goals from Anismov, etc.

I would be thrilled with 230-235 goals, considering they scored 219 last year. And even though our offense struggled to find consistency last year, that was still the middle of the pack for goals scored. Scoring 260 goals or more is something that happens for only a handful of teams, and the Rangers will not be one of them.

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No no no.

The same exact thing happened last offseason... posters predicting the Rangers would score well over 250 goals. 30 goals from Callahan, 25 goals each from Kotalik & Higgins, 20 goals from Anismov, etc.

I would be thrilled with 230-235 goals, considering they scored 219 last year. And even though our offense struggled to find consistency last year, that was still the middle of the pack for goals scored. Scoring 260 goals or more is something that happens for only a handful of teams, and the Rangers will not be one of them.
As I just mentioned above, Rangers had 222 goals and were tied for 20th in the league, quite worse than middle of the pack.

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As I just mentioned above, Rangers had 222 goals and were tied for 20th in the league, quite worse than middle of the pack.
NHL.com has them at 219 goals and 16th place in the league for scoring.

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Rozsival needs to shoot the puck.
the whole team needs to shoot the puck more. I don't know how many times last year, especially on a PP where I was yelling at my TV because they were passing way too much. Just put shots on net. Rozy has a bullet when he gets it on goal.

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NHL.com has them at 219 goals and 16th place in the league for scoring.
I don't know what NHL.com you're looking at, or if we're both looking at different ones:

http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/1482/92768693.jpg

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Too much, IMO. I think about 235-240 would be a more fair prediction.

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the whole team needs to shoot the puck more. I don't know how many times last year, especially on a PP where I was yelling at my TV because they were passing way too much. Just put shots on net. Rozy has a bullet when he gets it on goal.
Not just last year, but the year before that, and in '07-'08... I yell all the time when they don't shoot. All the passing... holding... then... a wrist shot from Rozsival.

But when Rozy takes the slapper... watch out.

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260+ goals?

I hadn't realized the NHL increased the season to 100 games.

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Lol yea I didn't list him because he probably won't score.

Boggles the mind that a guy who hasn't scored a goal since the lockout got as much in anual salary as this guy. Especially when he will play 5 minutes or less per game and will be a healthy scratch at least 40% of the season.

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No no no.

The same exact thing happened last offseason... posters predicting the Rangers would score well over 250 goals. 30 goals from Callahan, 25 goals each from Kotalik & Higgins, 20 goals from Anismov, etc.

I would be thrilled with 230-235 goals, considering they scored 219 last year. And even though our offense struggled to find consistency last year, that was still the middle of the pack for goals scored. Scoring 260 goals or more is something that happens for only a handful of teams, and the Rangers will not be one of them.
The expectation that Callahan would ever score 30 goals was dilusional.

If he ever scores 20 again after this upcoming season, ill be somewhat surprised.

With guys like Frolov, Zuccarello, Anisimov, Stepan, Kreider, Grachev in the mix now and in the future, Callahan's PP time will be decresed, his 5v5 role will be decreased. Just don't see a spot for him in the top 6 and he shouldn't be there anyway.

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08-01-2010, 12:03 PM
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our offense will be better but many of those predictions are generous. MZA's never played an NHL game, who knows if Anisimov actually has a break out season, I'll be very shocked if the defense provides that many goals, and who knows if Gaborik stays healthy enough to come close to 48.

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I don't know what NHL.com you're looking at, or if we're both looking at different ones:

http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/1482/92768693.jpg
There's obviously some sort of discrepancy, because if you go to Team Stats and click on Goals For, the numbers are totally different.

SNY Rangers Blog acknowledged this as well:

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Adam Gretz of AOL Fanhouse took a look at the goal differentialís for teams that didnít make the playoffs last season and gives a number of which they need to hit to make the playoffs for next season.

The Rangers scored 222 goals last season and let in 218. Their +4 differential from last season needs to be improved by 16 more goals.

NHL.com has the Rangers scoring 219 goals, 16th in the league and giving up 214, 10th best in the league.
http://www.snyrangersblog.com/2010/0...-differential/

Regardless of this nitpicking, Rangers aren't touching 260 goals this year.

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The expectation that Callahan would ever score 30 goals was dilusional.

If he ever scores 20 again after this upcoming season, ill be somewhat surprised.

With guys like Frolov, Zuccarello, Anisimov, Stepan, Kreider, Grachev in the mix now and in the future, Callahan's PP time will be decresed, his 5v5 role will be decreased. Just don't see a spot for him in the top 6 and he shouldn't be there anyway.
I agree, I think Cally will be the odd man out on the PP this year, and probably won't get as much time in the top 6. I think he may start out the season as the 2nd line right winger, but Aasen could replace him depending on how he progresses.

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Frolov (28) - Christensen (14) - Gaborik (48)
Dubinsky (23) - Anisimov (18) - MZA (16)
Avery(14)/Prospal(21) - Drury (13)- Callahan (22)
Prust (7) - Boyle (3) - Boogaard (0)

Staal (6) - Girardi (7)
McDonagh (4) - Rozsival (6)
Gilroy (3) - MDZ (11)

Eminger (1)

So that'd be 265 if all goes right. I don't think it's totally out of reach.

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Absolutely not...maybe they'll improve to 230 at the most. Thats saying if Gaborik stays healthy again, Prospal has another good year, Frolov finds chemistry with someone, MZA contributes, Anisimov improves, etc. Lots of unknowns.

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just stay healthy, hobit will bank 25 30.

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Ranger should give drury a fair chance this year
he could put up to 25 goal if they do

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On paper the Rangers have the NHL talent to get 260 goals or more..

But.. for whatever reason.. it will very unlikely not happen... Injuries,
slumps, bad breaks, benchings, no chemistry with the lineup and etc could
and will happen..

The only thing that is a given is that Torts will have a run in with
Larry Brooks again....

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$542,307 PER GOAL for Drury. Anyone got Tonya Harding's number?

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