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08-01-2010, 11:59 AM
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You don't get tired of repeating the same s***?

What does him being 22 and playing 134 games have to do with him being overrated?

He could be a great goalie, but he's not there yet. Also, it's funny how many fans call him elite. That's another laugher.
Probably confusing me with another poster because it's the first time I said that.

22 years goaltender aren't usually NHL regulars like Price is. That's a fact. When Hiller was that age he was playing in the Swiss league and couldn't even dream of playing one day in the NHL.

Just because he's already a NHL goaltender at 22 doesn't make him a surefire shot to be a elite goaltender (altho I think he will be), but it can certainly tell us and he's really gifted.

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Hiller and a top 6 = Price and a top prospect and a high pick.

no one want Hammer ,he will have to be waive or send to the AHL.

Can't see that happen

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Hiller and a top 6 = Price and a top prospect and a high pick.

no one want Hammer ,he will have to be waive or send to the AHL.

Can't see that happen
Do you watch the Habs play ? Why would Hammer be waived, he was our second best defensman last year ?

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Hiller and a top 6 = Price and a top prospect and a high pick.

no one want Hammer ,he will have to be waive or send to the AHL.

Can't see that happen
no team is going to take hammer at 5 mil.


end of worry there,
why even do posters think that

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Do you watch the Habs play ? Why would Hammer be waived, he was our second best defensman last year ?
He was benched in the playoffs... He's terrible.

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He was benched in the playoffs... He's terrible.
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Do you watch the Habs play ? Why would Hammer be waived, he was our second best defensman last year ?
Tell me which D-men of the caliber of Hammer have sign for 5+ millions dollars this off-season? Hamrlik is overpaid at least by 3 millions no one will want him.

Souray was waive and a lot of cheaper D-men don't have contract right now IMO Hammer have zero value.

maybe we can trade him at the deadline for a pick MAYBE





and no I didn't watch a game of the Habs. What's the Habs???

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Tell me which D-men of the caliber of Hammer have sign for 5+ millions dollars this off-season? Hamrlik is overpaid at least by 3 millions no one will want him.

Souray was waive and a lot of cheaper D-men don't have contract right now IMO Hammer have zero value.

maybe we can trade him at the deadline for a pick MAYBE





and no I didn't watch a game of the Habs. What's the Habs???
Haha what the hell does what he is getting paid have to do with him being our second best defensman ? Some of you honestly !

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Tell me which D-men of the caliber of Hammer have sign for 5+ millions dollars this off-season? Hamrlik is overpaid at least by 3 millions no one will want him.
If Hamrlik is overpaid it's by 1m max, he's a 2 way defenseman so obviously he's gonna be underrated because he isn't great offensively and isn't great defensively but he's very effective at both.

He's easily our #2 dman and with the addition of Subban he might slip to #3. We won't resign him next year but we need him for next year, that's for sure.

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? Some of you honestly !
Says the guy who thinks Leblanc will bust based on one encounter in a DEVELOPMENT camp.

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Haha what the hell does what he is getting paid have to do with him being our second best defensman ? Some of you honestly !
I don't care if you think he's our second best defenseman! I said he have ZERO value on the market please name me a player of his caliber who sign a 5+ millions deal this summer

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If Hamrlik is overpaid it's by 1m max, he's a 2 way defenseman so obviously he's gonna be underrated because he isn't great offensively and isn't great defensively but he's very effective at both.

He's easily our #2 dman and with the addition of Subban he might slip to #3. We won't resign him next year but we need him for next year, that's for sure.
Hamrlik help us during his time here for sure but next year he won't receive a 4,5 millions contract he will be sign for 2,5 millions max

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08-01-2010, 01:02 PM
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Hamrlik was a good 2-3 defenseman for us.
Now he's just an over paid vet that we have to carry his contract 1 last year.

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no offense to my fellow posters,

but mtl is not ridding themselves of price,


no trying to get ryan, would be a miracle and great if pg can pull that off...

i say he tempts ana with prospects and a 1st rounder, and keeps price
If thats all were trading for Ryan we wont be able to sign him after if were gonna be singing Price

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If thats all were trading for Ryan we wont be able to sign him after if were gonna be singing Price
ya i know,

but ak46 will be gone for chicken feed to dump 3.5

pg goes after ryan, the man has a set

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Why would they just trade Wisniewski?
I am not entirely sure. I imagine that they are trying to replace him, with a better defensive player. Contract talks had gone sour, and Wisniewski himself had the feeling he was going to get traded once he was signed.

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I don't care if you think he's our second best defenseman! I said he have ZERO value on the market please name me a player of his caliber who sign a 5+ millions deal this summer
Me and the Montreal Canadiens Management ! You know them ?

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Me and the Montreal Canadiens Management ! You know them ?
I'm talking about his trade value nothing more!!! Can you understand that?

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Me and the Montreal Canadiens Management ! You know them ?
you completely missed the point of his post. for the second time.

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If people are speculating about names being thrown around to fulfill "Ek's prophecy" of the California team willing to trade for Price, then let's have some fun here........

Would you do this...???

TO ANAHEIM: Price, Markov, A. Kost

TO MONTREAL: Hiller, Ryan, 1st round pick

Being short a d-man, the Habs would then use the cap space to trade for Kevin Bieksa (the cost likely being one of Pacioretty, Kristo or Weber).

So what do you think?

Personally I make this trade - but only if we can get Bieksa, or a reasonable facsimile somehow in another deal through created cap room. The Ducks would be good trading partners as they have plenty of cap room, and a lack of defensemen.

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If people are speculating about names being thrown around to fulfill "Ek's prophecy" of the California team willing to trade for Price, then let's have some fun here........

Would you do this...???

TO ANAHEIM: Price, Markov, A. Kost

TO MONTREAL: Hiller, Ryan, 1st round pick

Being short a d-man, the Habs would then use the cap space to trade for Kevin Bieksa (the cost likely being one of Pacioretty, Kristo or Weber).

So what do you think?

Personally I make this trade - but only if we can get Bieksa, or a reasonable facsimile somehow in another deal through created cap room. The Ducks would be good trading partners as they have plenty of cap room, and a lack of defensemen.
Hum... being short a dman yeah, being short our best one, not sure... Hiller and especially Ryan are great assets to have, but Markov is above them IMO, tough one here...

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If people are speculating about names being thrown around to fulfill "Ek's prophecy" of the California team willing to trade for Price, then let's have some fun here........

Would you do this...???

TO ANAHEIM: Price, Markov, A. Kost

TO MONTREAL: Hiller, Ryan, 1st round pick

Being short a d-man, the Habs would then use the cap space to trade for Kevin Bieksa (the cost likely being one of Pacioretty, Kristo or Weber).

So what do you think?

Personally I make this trade - but only if we can get Bieksa, or a reasonable facsimile somehow in another deal through created cap room. The Ducks would be good trading partners as they have plenty of cap room, and a lack of defensemen.
Interesting, but personnaly, I don't make that trade.

Markov is too ireplacable in my eyes and there are not that many good UFA dmen next year and Bieksa is no markov.

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If people are speculating about names being thrown around to fulfill "Ek's prophecy" of the California team willing to trade for Price, then let's have some fun here........

Would you do this...???

TO ANAHEIM: Price, Markov, A. Kost

TO MONTREAL: Hiller, Ryan, 1st round pick

Being short a d-man, the Habs would then use the cap space to trade for Kevin Bieksa (the cost likely being one of Pacioretty, Kristo or Weber).

So what do you think?

Personally I make this trade - but only if we can get Bieksa, or a reasonable facsimile somehow in another deal through created cap room. The Ducks would be good trading partners as they have plenty of cap room, and a lack of defensemen.
Too much on Montreals part. And please remove Danny Kristo from all trade prposals.

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Too much on Montreals part. And please remove Danny Kristo from all trade prposals.
I only put Kristo's name in as I believe he is who Vancouver would ask for in return for Bieksa. I too, want to see Kristo STAY A HAB!

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Interesting, but personnaly, I don't make that trade.

Markov is too ireplacable in my eyes and there are not that many good UFA dmen next year and Bieksa is no markov.
Many posters here know how I feel about Markov. I do not hate the man, and I believe he is a gifted player. My issue is his durability.

To say Markov is "irreplaceable" does not have the same ring it did 2-3 seasons ago. This guy is one more knee injury away from being finished for good. We managed well without him through the Pittsburgh series, and held the fort during his long absence in the regular season (albeit at the cost of a "spent" Hamrlik). Th emergence of Subban can help with a Markov departure.

Losing Markov would definitely be felt, but I feel the trade I poroposed overall; including the addition of a Bieksa, would make the club stronger overall now, and down the road............. I just have a bad feeling that Markov is going to let us down with his health......AGAIN.

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If people are speculating about names being thrown around to fulfill "Ek's prophecy" of the California team willing to trade for Price, then let's have some fun here........

Would you do this...???

TO ANAHEIM: Price, Markov, A. Kost

TO MONTREAL: Hiller, Ryan, 1st round pick
This, in my opinion, would be an overpayment by the Habs. Take the first out and replace Markov with Hamrlik or Spacek.

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