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08-02-2010, 12:20 AM
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I'll predict Drury with the way Dudly has been putting the gritty forwards together. May think Drury could be a strong voice in the locker room

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08-02-2010, 12:21 AM
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Would Drury have to approve a deal to Atlanta, or is the no movement clause just mean he can't be sent to the minors? I can't see him accepting a deal to Atlanta.

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08-02-2010, 12:21 AM
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I wouldn't mind taking a shot at him to be honest. Perhaps I remember him too much during his prime, but I'd love to give him a shot on the 2nd or 3rd line. He seems to have good intangibles, and a North-American veteran presence could be crucial for the Thrashers.
Sure, he has intangibles, but he is not worth 7.5M per. He kills penalties and is willing to block shots, he's a great defensive player. But his offensive game has taken a huge drop and he's absoluetly not worth the contract.

If your really serious, the Thrashers can have him for future considerations. No backsies

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08-02-2010, 12:22 AM
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Not hearing yet what #Thrashers get back bc of late hour, I assume. Todd White had 2 good yrs (05-07) w MIN as Rolston, Bouchard center #nyr

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Let's be fair here. Just because a player is overpaid doesn't make them bad. If you ever expected Drury to put up big numbers with us than you were very misinformed from the start. Drury put up very respectable numbers his first 2 seasons with us, and, let's face it, with our pitiful Powerplay, if we didn't have Drury last season, we would've been picking a lot higher than 10. Atlanta's massive Cap space 2 years of an overpaid PK specialist would help more than it would hurt. Drury is still a great player on the defensive side of things, who can chip in with a few powerplay goals as well. There's a reason he has the C you know.
There is no good reason he has the C on his chest. The man is terrible. He is a good 3rd liner at best and a dime a dozen player at this point in his career. He does the same job as betts did two seasons ago

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Would Drury have to approve a deal to Atlanta, or is the no movement clause just mean he can't be sent to the minors? I can't see him accepting a deal to Atlanta.
NMC is a NTC with the ability to block waivers or a minors assignment as well.


Granted, him waiving it is why the deal hasn't been fully disclosed. More than likely though, it's because it's 1:24am.

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this better not be the "1st line center" that we are all hyped about requiring before the season starts

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Would Drury have to approve a deal to Atlanta, or is the no movement clause just mean he can't be sent to the minors? I can't see him accepting a deal to Atlanta.
He could thrive there. Ramsay's system is defensively-oriented, and nobody could deny that we are much improved. A NMC does not allow trades or assignment I believe though.

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08-02-2010, 12:27 AM
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How about sending Brash to Atlanta?
I brought that up on the main

Maybe a 4th + Brash for White

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There is no good reason he has the C on his chest. The man is terrible. He is a good 3rd liner at best and a dime a dozen player at this point in his career. He does the same job as betts did two seasons ago
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Sure, he has intangibles, but he is not worth 7.5M per. He kills penalties and is willing to block shots, he's a great defensive player. But his offensive game has taken a huge drop and he's absoluetly not worth the contract.

If your really serious, the Thrashers can have him for future considerations. No backsies
Take White off of our hands please. He is a decent top-6 center, but he won't supplant Pevs or Antropov. Also, we have way too many forwards on our roster without you guys taking him back. Still, I do not know why you don't want him. Overpaid, yes, but he looks to be the perfect clutch defensive player.

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NMC is a NTC with the ability to block waivers or a minors assignment as well.


Granted, him waiving it is why the deal hasn't been fully disclosed. More than likely though, it's because it's 1:24am.
Thanks for the response.

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Take White off of our hands please. He is a decent top-6 center, but he won't supplant Pevs or Antropov. Also, we have way too many forwards on our roster without you guys taking him back. Still, I do not know why you don't want him. Overpaid, yes, but he looks to be the perfect clutch defensive player.
I'm only busting your balls man. He is definitely an attractive piece for a team like Atlanta, but I'm just shocked anybody is interested in taking his contract due to the cap hit. He's a great role player, no doubt, but his cap hit really hurts his value in general.

If we take on White with a big contract going to Atlanta, I'll be ok with it. If it is for a pick I'll be pissed.

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There has to be something else happening. This doesn't improve the team or the cap situation.

A great summer indeed for the Man Behind the Curtain.

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I can't see this being for just a pick, unless he has another trade coming, aren't they running out of summer cap space for Staal if Atlanta is not taking anything back?

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08-02-2010, 12:34 AM
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Sure, he has intangibles, but he is not worth 7.5M per. He kills penalties and is willing to block shots, he's a great defensive player. But his offensive game has taken a huge drop and he's absoluetly not worth the contract.

If your really serious, the Thrashers can have him for future considerations. No backsies
I'm really sick of the lack of respect for Drury. He scored back to back 20 goal seasons with us and has fit into any role we need. When we had 0 offense 2 years ago he scored 22 goals and 56 pts (good for 3rd on the team in both categories), when we needed a steady 2 way forward Drury stepped up and won 52.9% of his faceoffs and led forwards in the NHL with 97 bocked shots with an average of 3:00 of SH minutes played per game!

He's no Mess but he has been a great leader an a big part of any of the success we had last season.

Let's not confuse a good player who is highly overpaid (Drury)
With a Bad player who has the worst contract in Sports to date (Redden)

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08-02-2010, 12:35 AM
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perplexing. makes sense (for us) if they take Redden but we already have 13 forwards. Sather must be gearing up for another trade. Perhaps this is part of a 3 way trade or they will wait to make a big announcement Monday and part of a deal got leaked out. White would be a good 3rd line center. If we didn't already have Drury. It'd be amazing if he waived his NMC. Drury or Redden. Yeah, that would be both epic and amazing.

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I'm only busting your balls man. He is definitely an attractive piece for a team like Atlanta, but I'm just shocked anybody is interested in taking his contract due to the cap hit. He's a great role player, no doubt, but his cap hit really hurts his value in general.

If we take on White with a big contract going to Atlanta, I'll be ok with it. If it is for a pick I'll be pissed.
Atlanta may be the only team that is alright for the next two years with the cap. We have Bogo, Ladd, Eager, and Valabik as RFAs (UFAs in Eager's case) in 2011, and we should be alright.

I could see maybe a 4th round pick coming Atlanta's way or perhaps something as an optional 3rd round switch for the Thrashers; but nothing else of note.

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Salaries gotta go the other way, Rangers are already in a tight spot considering Staal isn't signed. I would guess it's Redden but who knows.

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I can see Gilroy and/or Brashear plus a draft pick going to Atlanta, they need to reach cap floor and both contracts are up after the season. I really doubt it's Rozsival, trading him means Redden stays. I dont see Atlanta wanting Redden, they are not that stupid.

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Well... Let's look here...

ATL D
Bogosian
Enstrom
Hainsey
Oduya
Sopel
Valabik (?)

Six defenseman who are all NHL-worthy, Valabik being the question-mark.

NYR D
Gilroy
Del Zotto
Staal (?)
Redden
Rozsival
Eminger
Girardi
McDonagh

That's 7 defenseman and maybe Sathers plan is to go into the season with only 6/7 defenseman.

Oh, I don't know.

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I can't see this being for just a pick, unless he has another trade coming, aren't they running out of summer cap space for Staal if Atlanta is not taking anything back?
im guessing boyle and gilroy for white and thornburn

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I can see Gilroy and/or Brashear plus a draft pick going to Atlanta, they need to reach cap floor and both contracts are up after the season. I really doubt it's Rozsival, trading him means Redden stays. I dont see Atlanta wanting Redden, they are not that stupid.
Even combined that barely frees up any cap space. Makes no sense unless its a bigger salary dump

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I'm really sick of the lack of respect for Drury. He scored back to back 20 goal seasons with us and has fit into any role we need. When we had 0 offense 2 years ago he scored 22 goals and 56 pts (good for 3rd on the team in both categories), when we needed a steady 2 way forward Drury stepped up and won 52.9% of his faceoffs and led forwards in the NHL with 97 bocked shots with an average of 3:00 of SH minutes played per game!

He's no Mess but he has been a great leader an a big part of any of the success we had last season.

Let's not confuse a good player who is highly overpaid (Drury)
With a Bad player who has the worst contract in Sports to date (Redden)
I respect you sticking up for Drury, but please save your rambling for somebody else who actually deserves it. I'm a big supporter of Drury's game, just not his contract. I love the fact that he is willing to sacrifice everything every game to help his team win. He does all of the little things right. Penalty kill, defensive play, blocking shots and chips in the occasional goal. Players like that are often favorites of mine, and I really like the way he plays. I never disrespected his play, only the fact that he didn't live up to his contract.

His contract hurts this team from progressing right now, and will continue to until it is off the books. Getting rid of it would be huge for this organization, despite his play.

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@TheNYRBlog I know that is what the Rangers REALLY want, but I have heard it is not Redden or Drury.


I'm kind of disappointed. I may be insane, but I had/have a good feeling about Drury.

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