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08-02-2010, 01:11 AM
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IF true, I am going to wait for the other shoe to drop on a) who/what goes the other way and b) if this is a harbinger for another move. But as it stands now, this is a crap acquisition. A microcosm of Sather's mediocre term as GM

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08-02-2010, 01:11 AM
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It better be for Brashear or Redden. White has a crappy contract, he's 35 (so the over-35 rule applies) and he's no better than Drury or Christensen.


Ugh, anyone else not going to sleep until they hear the details?


White's contract was signed before he was 35, so the over 35 rule does not apply.

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08-02-2010, 01:12 AM
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I dunno why Atlanta would take Brashear, they just signed Eager who's way better than Brash and can fight too. Plus they have Boulton, Thorburn, so unless it's Redden, i think a guy like Rozsival or Gilroy is maybe gone. Which is kinda high for White.

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It better be for Brashear or Redden. White has a crappy contract, he's 35 (so the over-35 rule applies) and he's no better than Drury or Christensen.


Ugh, anyone else not going to sleep until they hear the details?
I thought that applied when the player was over 35 when he signed the contract?

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08-02-2010, 01:13 AM
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Really hoping this is just BS.
Uh why? He's got one year left, and ATL is on the cap floor, we 100% traded salary back (Redden, Drury or Rosy). This is a great deal.

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08-02-2010, 01:14 AM
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Looks like I'll find out tomorrow afternoon. Good night all.

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Uh why? He's got one year left, and ATL is on the cap floor, we 100% traded salary back (Redden, Drury or Rosy). This is a great deal.
How do you know that?

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08-02-2010, 01:15 AM
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How do you know that?
Because they NEED to get salary back to make the cap floor?

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Because they NEED to get salary back to make the cap floor?
I understand that but they can do that through free agency or another trade. It does not have to happen in this deal.

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08-02-2010, 01:21 AM
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I have a feeling Drury is a goner here. Sather signed MZA and Christensen to play, and salary wise this makes no sense either. White can replace Drury.

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Strange waking up to 'new' news at 7am - hardly enthralled given White doesn't really improve the quality of the team nor the cap situation. Ideally we're sending more salary back than we're getting but I'm struggling to see who. Lateral move either way really.

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I have a feeling Drury is a goner here. Sather signed MZA and Christensen to play, and salary wise this makes no sense either. White can replace Drury.
Drury has a NMC

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I understand that but they can do that through free agency or another trade. It does not have to happen in this deal.
True, but im very confident one of the big 3 are gone (contracts aside of Lundqvist and Gabby).

Guess we will find out tomorrow, ugh this will be a fun time trying to get to sleep tonight haha.

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I have a feeling Drury is a goner here. Sather signed MZA and Christensen to play, and salary wise this makes no sense either. White can replace Drury.
Drury is not waiving his NTC to go to Atlanta.

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08-02-2010, 01:26 AM
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I have to imagine its Roszival. He helps Atlanta get to the floor yet makes significantly less in real salary than his 5 mil per hit. That frees up 2.65 mil in cap room for the Rangers (or the full 5 if they waive White).

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Rozsival better not be involved unless we're getting a similar defensive arsenal back.

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08-02-2010, 01:29 AM
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If White was brought in because of chemistry he may have had with Gaborik while in Minnesota, it's idiotic. You now have two middling centers (Christensen and White) who on any other team in the league are bottom six players, and getting a shift on the 2nd line during a particularly good streak, as potential first line centers for us. As the saying here goes, hockey is different here.

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Its amazing how many people still don't know drury has every word in ANYTHING invovled with him.He can't be traded unless he wants to go.In which case, drury isn't going anywhere, especially not atlanta.


Also, if by some miracle redden is being traded, Atlanta would be taking home the "worst managed team in the league" de-crowning the tampa bay management.

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08-02-2010, 01:32 AM
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Rozsival better not be involved unless we're getting a similar defensive arsenal back.
He was arguably our best defenseman the last six weeks of the season. I have advocated trading Rozsival, but not here. Take Rozsival out of this defensive core and you are missing a veteran presence. You cannot have all kids on defense, in my opinion. Eminger is not a consistent top 6 defenseman for me, and should play in the neighborhood of 40-50 games. If you take Rozsival out, he gets a regular shift.

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I would bet that Rozsival will be the one going to Atlanta which means McDonagh will take his spot... And this also means Redden is staying at least for this season.

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I hope that we sent a late pick in return, and not one of our promising prospects. If Sather somehow got rid of Rozsival then hey, thats a bonus, but a guy can dream. Maybe this is a precursor to another trade or who knows with trigger happy Slats. And if this trade actually goes down, its just another nail in the coffin for Redden.

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08-02-2010, 01:42 AM
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Sather doesn't get fleeced in trades.

Drury has a NMC. He won't go to Atlanta. Atlanta isn't dumb enough to take Redden's contract, and we're not moving Rozsival and going into the season with a young and inexperienced defense.

I am confident we didn't give up anything substantial for White. Do we need him? Not really, but Doug Riseborough was the GM in Minnesota and probably gave a good word to Sather on White, who has played with Gabby before. He's 35, makes 2.35 million and is coming off an injury. We got him for cheap.

Most likley a bubble player (Boyle?) and a mid-to-late pick going to ATL.

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Sather doesn't get fleeced in trades.

Drury has a NMC. He won't go to Atlanta. Atlanta isn't dumb enough to take Redden's contract, and we're not moving Rozsival and going into the season with a young and inexperienced defense.

I am confident we didn't give up anything substantial for White. Do we need him? Not really, but Doug Riseborough was the GM in Minnesota and probably gave a good word to Sather on White, who has played with Gabby before. He's 35, makes 2.35 million and is coming off an injury. We got him for cheap.

Most likley a bubble player (Boyle?) and a mid-to-late pick going to ATL.
Then why sign Christensen as well? Should be one or the other to play with Gaborik

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I think it might be a move to get the Brashear contract off the books. ATlanta needs to reach the minimum cap, while we want to get rid of that unnecessary $$ Brash clogs into our cap b/c of the over 35 clause. We can waive White.

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I think it might be a move to get the Brashear contract off the books. ATlanta needs to reach the minimum cap, while we want to get rid of that unnecessary $$ Brash clogs into our cap b/c of the over 35 clause. We can waive White.
isn't todd white 35 aswell?

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