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08-02-2010, 10:03 PM
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Bruins to sign Seguin

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3 yr max entry level contract

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Interesting, what are we looking at here? A 3 million+ cap hit?

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Interesting, what are we looking at here? A 3 million+ cap hit?
Same as Hall? 3.75

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Interesting, what are we looking at here? A 3 million+ cap hit?
$900,000 cap hit for this year. His bonuses (which could get up to $2.85 million) will count on the cap next year.

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Damn. I was hoping the Leafs could sign him.

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08-02-2010, 10:20 PM
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Isn't his cap hit as teh 2nd overall pick slightly lower than Hall's??

Either way, they'll problably use just under a $2m projection for where his salary ends up.

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Isn't his cap hit as teh 2nd overall pick slightly lower than Hall's??

Either way, they'll problably use just under a $2m projection for where his salary ends up.
Probably not.

Almost every high end prospect is signed to the maximum allowable contract. That is 900k base salary + 850k in possible "Group A" bonuses and up to 2 million in possible "Group B" bonuses for a total cap hit for 3.75 million.

The only variation I see in most high end prospect's ELCs are how much money they get per "Group B" bonus they hit.

Toews got 1.3 million for hitting his Conn Smythe "Group B" bonus where as Malkin got the full 2 million if he hit any of the "Group B" bonuses.

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I thought they were gonna trade him

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he'll be better than Hall IMO

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e5. bruins comeout of nowhere and steal this up and comer

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Probably not.

Almost every high end prospect is signed to a the maximum allowable contract. That is 900k base salary + 850k in possible "Group A" bonuses and up to 2 million in possible "Group B" bonuses for a total cap hit for 3.75 million.
Tavares: $3.75m
Hedman: $3.5m
Duchene: $3.4m

Stamkos: $3.75m
Doughty: $3.475m
Bogosian: $2.725m

Kane: $3.75m
Van Riemsdyk: $1.654m
Turris: $2.725m

Coincidence?

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he'll be better than Hall IMO
Nope.

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he'll be better than Hall IMO
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Maybe?

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$900,000 cap hit for this year. His bonuses (which could get up to $2.85 million) will count on the cap next year.
Why? Tavares cap hits counted last season for the Islanders.

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Why? Tavares cap hits counted last season for the Islanders.
you can go over the cap by a percentage of like 10% with a bonus cushion, but seeing how the bruins are so close to the cap and the likely hood of seguin achieving his bonuses, thus putting the bruins over the cap, that amount will be deducted from their next year's cap. if seguin does not achieve his bonuses, they will not be penalized next year.

islanders/tavares was different because they were no where near the cap. thus never invoked the bonus cushion.

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Why? Tavares cap hits counted last season for the Islanders.
You'll have to ask someone who knows the CBA better than myself but it's something to do with the bonus cushion or something along those lines. I've been reading on the Bruins board for weeks that his cap hit will only be $900k this season. Bonuses carry over to next season. Dr Quincey could clear it up real good if he sees this.

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You'll have to ask someone who knows the CBA better than myself but it's something to do with the bonus cushion or something along those lines. I've been reading on the Bruins board for weeks that his cap hit will only be $900k this season. Bonuses carry over to next season. Dr Quincey could clear it up real good if he sees this.
Bonuses CAN carry over to next season, but that doesn't mean Chiarelli is going to chose to. Basically, the B's are allowed to exceed the cap with bonuses, if bonuses get earned (some most likely will), and the B's end up spending over the cap as a result, they get transfered as a cap penalty next year. If Chiarelli doesn't want to start screwing up next year's cap (like Chicago did this year), then he'll leave adequate space for Seguin to earn whatever portion of bonuses Chiarelli reasonably believes he'll earn.

A max rookie can earn about $1.8m (including base salary) based on statistics only. Anything more requires him to win (or finish top 3) in major league awards, and he very well could be a calder candidate.

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Tavares: $3.75m
Hedman: $3.5m
Duchene: $3.4m

Stamkos: $3.75m
Doughty: $3.475m
Bogosian: $2.725m

Kane: $3.75m
Van Riemsdyk: $1.654m
Turris: $2.725m

Coincidence?
Yes. You get no special award for being 1st overall, the maximum allowable contract is the maximum allowable contract.

Seeing as how Seguin/Hall were considered essentially equal, I'd be incredibly surprised if the Bruins tried to short change him on B bonuses that he probably won't hit anyways.

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$900,000 cap hit for this year. His bonuses (which could get up to $2.85 million) will count on the cap next year.
Most of his bonuses won't count at all, he won't earn them.

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Wait....who?

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Damn. I was hoping the Leafs could sign him.
I laughed (I'm a leafs fan).

I think he makes the same as Hall.

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Yes. You get no special award for being 1st overall, the maximum allowable contract is the maximum allowable contract.
Its not a coincidence dude, first overall picks always get a more extensive bonus package every single year. It is a prize for being the most sought after prospect in your draft year.


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Most of his bonuses won't count at all, he won't earn them.
They still count towards the cap whether he earns them or not.

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They still count towards the cap whether he earns them or not.
No. Why would money not paid out count against the cap?

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