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08-02-2010, 03:14 PM
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FORWARDS
Troy Brouwer ($1.025m) / Jonathan Toews ($6.300m) / Patrick Kane ($6.300m)
Viktor Stalberg ($0.850m) / Patrick Sharp ($3.900m) / Marian Hossa ($5.275m)
Kyle Beach ($1.170m) / Dave Bolland ($3.375m) / Jack Skille ($0.600m)
Bryan Bickell ($0.541m) / Jake Dowell ($0.525m) / Tomas Kopecky ($1.200m)
Jeff Taffe ($0.550m)

DEFENSEMEN
Brian Campbell ($7.142m) / Duncan Keith ($5.538m)
Brent Seabrook ($3.500m) / Niklas Hjalmarsson ($3.500m)
Jordan Hendry ($0.600m) / Ivan Vishnevskiy ($0.821m)
John Scott ($0.512m)

GOALTENDERS
Marty Turco ($1.300m) /Corey Crawford ($0.800m)

CARRY-OVER BONUS PENALTY: $4,157,753

CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled using the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $59,400,000; CAP PAYROLL: $59,485,757; BONUSES: $390,000
CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $304,243


Makarov 1st CallUp

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08-02-2010, 03:42 PM
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FORWARDS
Troy Brouwer ($1.025m) / Jonathan Toews ($6.300m) / Patrick Kane ($6.300m)
Viktor Stalberg ($0.850m) / Patrick Sharp ($3.900m) / Marian Hossa ($5.275m)
Kyle Beach ($1.170m) / Dave Bolland ($3.375m) / Jack Skille ($0.600m)
Bryan Bickell ($0.541m) / Jake Dowell ($0.525m) / Tomas Kopecky ($1.200m)
Jeff Taffe ($0.550m)

DEFENSEMEN
Brian Campbell ($7.142m) / Duncan Keith ($5.538m)
Brent Seabrook ($3.500m) / Niklas Hjalmarsson ($3.500m)
Jordan Hendry ($0.600m) / Ivan Vishnevskiy ($0.821m)
John Scott ($0.512m)

GOALTENDERS
Marty Turco ($1.300m) /Corey Crawford ($0.800m)

CARRY-OVER BONUS PENALTY: $4,157,753

CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled using the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $59,400,000; CAP PAYROLL: $59,485,757; BONUSES: $390,000
CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $304,243


Makarov 1st CallUp
This is my lineup except for the same cap I think we are better off with Boynton/Hnidy/Mckee as I said earlier on here (600k - 800k), same with Mair over Taffe (600k)

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08-02-2010, 04:22 PM
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FORWARDS
Troy Brouwer ($1.025m) / Jonathan Toews ($6.300m) / Patrick Kane ($6.300m)
Viktor Stalberg ($0.850m) / Patrick Sharp ($3.900m) / Marian Hossa ($5.275m)
Kyle Beach ($1.170m) / Dave Bolland ($3.375m) / Jack Skille ($0.600m)
Bryan Bickell ($0.541m) / Jake Dowell ($0.525m) / Tomas Kopecky ($1.200m)
Jeff Taffe ($0.550m)

DEFENSEMEN
Brian Campbell ($7.142m) / Duncan Keith ($5.538m)
Brent Seabrook ($3.500m) / Niklas Hjalmarsson ($3.500m)
Jordan Hendry ($0.600m) / Ivan Vishnevskiy ($0.821m)
John Scott ($0.512m)

GOALTENDERS
Marty Turco ($1.300m) /Corey Crawford ($0.800m)

CARRY-OVER BONUS PENALTY: $4,157,753

CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled using the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $59,400,000; CAP PAYROLL: $59,485,757; BONUSES: $390,000
CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $304,243


Makarov 1st CallUp
My 22 man roster exactly. Put a more conservative 625 K number on Hendry but that's not really relevant. When a few short term injuries happen and force us to use callups we'll send Beach down to clear the cap room to bring up a few 500 Kish guys.

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08-02-2010, 05:12 PM
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I have a feeling Makarov will be on the big club from the start. I think that was a big reason he signed so cheaply, with an understanding that he would be on the club. He is still a second rounder, who impressed when he was at TC a couple of years ago, and has played with men the last couple of years in the second toughest league.

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08-02-2010, 07:01 PM
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our Forwards will be
1. Toews
2. Sharp
3. Bolland
4. Brouwer
5. Stalberg
6. Bickell
7. Kane
8. Hossa
9. Skille
10. Kopecky
11. Dowell
12. ???
13. Scott

12 = Beach or Makarov

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08-03-2010, 12:37 AM
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If the Hawks can grab McKee or an equivalent UFA for the bottom pairing our defensemen would likely be better than last year (sorry Sopel, nothing personal). That would be the first bit of good news we've had since the cup win, it seems.

Failing that, I'd love to see Tim Kennedy playing alongside Bolland at 3rd line LW. Give him a multi-year deal along the lines of 3 years, $3M total, and he would fit right in with our young core. One less rookie in the bottom 6 would be a welcome sight.

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08-03-2010, 01:40 AM
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FORWARDS
Troy Brouwer ($1.025m) / Jonathan Toews ($6.300m) / Patrick Kane ($6.300m)
Viktor Stalberg ($0.850m) / Patrick Sharp ($3.900m) / Marian Hossa ($5.275m)
Kyle Beach ($1.170m) / Dave Bolland ($3.375m) / Jack Skille ($0.600m)
Bryan Bickell ($0.541m) / Jake Dowell ($0.525m) / Tomas Kopecky ($1.200m)
Jeff Taffe ($0.550m)

DEFENSEMEN
Brian Campbell ($7.142m) / Duncan Keith ($5.538m)
Brent Seabrook ($3.500m) / Niklas Hjalmarsson ($3.500m)
Jordan Hendry ($0.600m) / Ivan Vishnevskiy ($0.821m)
John Scott ($0.512m)

GOALTENDERS
Marty Turco ($1.300m) /Corey Crawford ($0.800m)

CARRY-OVER BONUS PENALTY: $4,157,753

CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled using the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $59,400,000; CAP PAYROLL: $59,485,757; BONUSES: $390,000
CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $304,243


Makarov 1st CallUp
I think Makarov is going to be on the third line instead of Beach, unless Beach BLOWS HIM AWAY at camp. Why would he sign the contract he signed, unless he was almost guaranteed a spot on the team? Beach could also use a season of pro hockey. He has hardly played ANY games against people his size or his age. I.E.: MEN. Unless he really stands out in camp, I see him in Rockford. I also think that we will carry Scott as our 13th forward, and find a veteran defenseman to pair with Hendry, with Vish being our 7th defenseman. I don't think Taffe will play many, if any games, for the big club this year, unless we have a centerman go down.(knock on wood)

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08-03-2010, 01:24 PM
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Good Stan Bowman interview here: http://wscr.cbslocal.com/2010/08/03/stan-bowman-2/

It's only 12 minutes, but here's a rough outline of the highlights [my comments in brackets]:

-Bowman said that any perception that the team thought $2.75M was too high for Niemi was "not accurate". [Reading between the lines, they would have been willing to pay Niemi that if they could afford the cap space.]

-He wants to add "one or two defensemen" through free agency. "Low dollar" guys as he put it.

-He restated that they are very close to resigning Hendry. [This really sounds like a done deal. You can pencil Hendry into all lineup proposals if you're not already. It also doesn't sound like Hendry is one of the 1-2 D-men Bowman referred to earlier.]

-There was never a question about whether to match the Hammer offer sheet. He called him a "great player" that "we haven't seen the best of yet".

-Signing Hjalmarsson made it "difficult" to resign Niemi, but he still thought it was possible.

-He stated that "you need to leave some room under the cap during the season for injuries. You can't be right at the cap." He said that cap space would be used "to call guys up" or "even make a move during the season". "You need to have flexibility to be able to maneuver." [He didn't give any number on how much cap space would be ideal, but clearly the rosters we've seen on this site featuring $100K of cap space are not going to happen.]

-He's "comfortable with our group up front", referring to the forwards. They "may" look to add a guy, depending on how the financial situation plays out. [It was clear throughout the interview that adding a UFA for the bottom pairing is a priority over upgrading the bottom 6.]

-Asked about Madden specifically, he said they might approach Zito later depending on what they have left to spend. [Honestly, I thought he sounded really lukewarm on Madden.]

-Asked if Beach was too expensive to make the team, Bowman pointed out that a lot of his compensation came as bonuses. He said that "Kyle is certainly going to get a chance to make the team" but also that "spending a little more time developing in Rockford isn't the worst thing either". [Sounds to me like Beach has a legit shot to make the team out of camp, but beginning the year in Rockford with a call-up mid-to-late season is more likely. No surprise.]

-Bowman thinks this team is as good as last year, and mentioned Skille, Bickell and Dowell specifically as guys who didn't make the team last season "not because they weren't good enough, but because there wasn't any room for them...they were blocked out by the guys ahead of them". He said they were "too good for the AHL". Skille was singled out later in the interview as a guy who "made the team" but had a prohibitive cap hit.

-He also mentioned that he expects continued improvement from the young players on the roster, and referred to Kane by name.

-Asked about the Scott addition, he called him "an intimidating presence" and a player "fans will love". Said he should "keep the other team honest" and "give our skill players room to do their thing".

-Asked which new players could make an immediate impact Bowman brought up Stalberg. Said he "hasn't reached his full potential" and is looking forward to see what he can do "next to some good players up front". [Could that last comment refer to Stalberg playing in the top 6? I guess it's up to Q, but it sounds like Bowman really likes the kid.]

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Good Stan Bowman interview here: http://wscr.cbslocal.com/2010/08/03/stan-bowman-2/

It's only 12 minutes, but here's a rough outline of the highlights [my comments in brackets]:

-Bowman said that any perception that the team thought $2.75M was too high for Niemi was "not accurate". [Reading between the lines, they would have been willing to pay Niemi that if they could afford the cap space.]

-He wants to add "one or two defensemen" through free agency. "Low dollar" guys as he put it.

-He restated that they are very close to resigning Hendry. [This really sounds like a done deal. You can pencil Hendry into all lineup proposals if you're not already. It also doesn't sound like Hendry is one of the 1-2 D-men Bowman referred to earlier.]

-There was never a question about whether to match the Hammer offer sheet. He called him a "great player" that "we haven't seen the best of yet".

-Signing Hjalmarsson made it "difficult" to resign Niemi, but he still thought it was possible.

-He stated that "you need to leave some room under the cap during the season for injuries. You can't be right at the cap." He said that cap space would be used "to call guys up" or "even make a move during the season". "You need to have flexibility to be able to maneuver." [He didn't give any number on how much cap space would be ideal, but clearly the rosters we've seen on this site featuring $100K of cap space are not going to happen.]

-He's "comfortable with our group up front", referring to the forwards. They "may" look to add a guy, depending on how the financial situation plays out. [It was clear throughout the interview that adding a UFA for the bottom pairing is a priority over upgrading the bottom 6.]

-Asked about Madden specifically, he said they might approach Zito later depending on what they have left to spend. [Honestly, I thought he sounded really lukewarm on Madden.]

-Asked if Beach was too expensive to make the team, Bowman pointed out that a lot of his compensation came as bonuses. He said that "Kyle is certainly going to get a chance to make the team" but also that "spending a little more time developing in Rockford isn't the worst thing either". [Sounds to me like Beach has a legit shot to make the team out of camp, but beginning the year in Rockford with a call-up mid-to-late season is more likely. No surprise.]

-Bowman thinks this team is as good as last year, and mentioned Skille, Bickell and Dowell specifically as guys who didn't make the team last season "not because they weren't good enough, but because there wasn't any room for them...they were blocked out by the guys ahead of them". He said they were "too good for the AHL". Skille was singled out later in the interview as a guy who "made the team" but had a prohibitive cap hit.

-He also mentioned that he expects continued improvement from the young players on the roster, and referred to Kane by name.

-Asked about the Scott addition, he called him "an intimidating presence" and a player "fans will love". Said he should "keep the other team honest" and "give our skill players room to do their thing".

-Asked which new players could make an immediate impact Bowman brought up Stalberg. Said he "hasn't reached his full potential" and is looking forward to see what he can do "next to some good players up front". [Could that last comment refer to Stalberg playing in the top 6? I guess it's up to Q, but it sounds like Bowman really likes the kid.]
Thanks for the cliffnotes. I find it hard to believe that Skille "made the team" last year. I really hope he's not blowing smoke up his snatch and Skille has improved enough defensively to play on a checking line.

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Thanks for the cliffnotes. I find it hard to believe that Skille "made the team" last year. I really hope he's not blowing smoke up his snatch and Skille has improved enough defensively to play on a checking line.
I trust the judgement of the Hawks staff before the "scouts" on a message board.

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I trust the judgement of the Hawks staff before the "scouts" on a message board.
I've never claimed to be a scout; I'm just offering my opinion on the kid. I like Skille, and no one doubts he has the physical tools to be an NHL regular. It's the hockey sense where his game is lacking. Luckily that's a skill which can be built with good coaching.

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The Hawks staff might have seen that any shortcomings in Skille's game could be rectified and his other assets compensated these so much that he made the team.

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