Even still, Boyle would've scored around 5. Not that huge of an upgrade.
Still, we can make all the calculations we want and put every one of our players "averages" in, we all know this team won't hit 260 goals or near 3 goals per game.
5-10 goals from one player is a pretty big upgrade. Boyle would've gotten around 10 points. White will bring around 30-35. Maybe even 40. That means he's helping other players score more goals as well.
You can't look at this so shortsightedly.
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Who knows where he plays? I give him a shot with the top line. When healthy, he's a far better player than Christensen is. If he can put up 50 points on the 1st line, Christensen can get 20-25 on the 4th. It's at least a 10 point upgrade over Boyle.
Who knows where he plays? I give him a shot with the top line. When healthy, he's a far better player than Christensen is. If he can put up 50 points on the 1st line, Christensen can get 20-25 on the 4th. It's at least a 10 point upgrade over Boyle.
I'm not sure why people aren't seeing this. I'll take one year of a healthy Todd White over two years of whatever Christensen will supposedly bring.
To the OP - Last year i made a similar projection and i thought i wasnt being too optimistic and boy was I off. I was thinkg somewhere in the neighborhood of 240 after scaling it back and it was a ton less. But i think we might get there this year. Frolov should add 20 or so plus the progression of the youth should add a few more here and there.
It really depends on a lot of factors including health of the top stars, if the defense pitches in, the power play, if they can add a few goals in OT this year, etc...
I think a conservative number for this season is 235-240.
To the OP - Last year i made a similar projection and i thought i wasnt being too optimistic and boy was I off. I was thinkg somewhere in the neighborhood of 240 after scaling it back and it was a ton less. But i think we might get there this year. Frolov should add 20 or so plus the progression of the youth should add a few more here and there.
It really depends on a lot of factors including health of the top stars, if the defense pitches in, the power play, if they can add a few goals in OT this year, etc...
I think a conservative number for this season is 235-240.
After figuring in ice time and line combinations I agree. There's no reason we can't pot at least 230. Though I would honestly expect low 240's. Maybe if we had a first line center we'd crack 260. Good thing it looks like we'll have money for Mr. Richards next year.
Gaborik-43-47-90
Alexander Frolov-24-39-63
Brandon Dubinsky 25-32-57
Vaclav Prospal-18-30-48
Mats Zuccarello-Aasen-17-27-44
Michael Del Zotto-9-35-44
Ryan Callahan-21-20-41
Chris Drury-16-18-34
Marc Staal-8-25-33
Todd White-10-21-31
Michal Rozsival-4-21-25
Sean Avery-10-10-20
Dan Giradi-8-12-20
Brandon Prust-6-9-14
Steve Eminger-2-12-14
Erik Christensen-3-10-13*Injury
Ryan McDonagh-1-10-12
Matt Gilroy-1-1-3*Traded in December after stint in Hartford
Derek Boogaard-0-0-0
Eminger (2)
Add in like 4 goals from random call ups covering injuries and you're looking at a team that will net about 264 goals. By pure coincidence that matches the amount of offense the Blackhawks produced last year.
I know these players and have my expectations, but am I being overly optimistic? Is it really that hard to believe that each of these players cant score my predicted amount of goals? I don't think I made any crazy predictions. The most questionable is MZA, and even if he busts completely this is still a strong offensive team on paper in my mind.
Serious question, who did I overrate in terms of their production next season?
And how many goals are we gonna score next year by your count?
Edit: with MDZ added its even more.
add like 7 goals or more to Del Zotto. and subtract like 10 goals from Drury
Gaborik-43-47-90
Alexander Frolov-24-39-63
Brandon Dubinsky 25-32-57
Vaclav Prospal-18-30-48
Mats Zuccarello-Aasen-17-27-44
Michael Del Zotto-9-35-44
Ryan Callahan-21-20-41
Chris Drury-16-18-34
Marc Staal-8-25-33
Todd White-10-21-31
Michal Rozsival-4-21-25
Sean Avery-10-10-20
Dan Giradi-8-12-20
Brandon Prust-6-9-14
Steve Eminger-2-12-14
Erik Christensen-3-10-13*Injury
Ryan McDonagh-1-10-12
Matt Gilroy-1-1-3*Traded in December after stint in Hartford
Derek Boogaard-0-0-0
Total Goals:226
6th place finish second round exit
I'll take a 2nd round exit with the chance to go further.
Heck, if we make it to the 2nd round every year and have a 30% chance to move on, odds are we make it over a 5 year span!
Gaborik-43-47-90
Alexander Frolov-24-39-63
Brandon Dubinsky 25-32-57
Vaclav Prospal-18-30-48
Mats Zuccarello-Aasen-17-27-44
Michael Del Zotto-9-35-44
Ryan Callahan-21-20-41
Chris Drury-16-18-34
Marc Staal-8-25-33
Todd White-10-21-31
Michal Rozsival-4-21-25
Sean Avery-10-10-20
Dan Giradi-8-12-20
Brandon Prust-6-9-14
Steve Eminger-2-12-14
Erik Christensen-3-10-13*Injury
Ryan McDonagh-1-10-12
Matt Gilroy-1-1-3*Traded in December after stint in Hartford
Derek Boogaard-0-0-0
Gaborik-43-47-90
Alexander Frolov-24-39-63
Brandon Dubinsky 25-32-57
Vaclav Prospal-18-30-48
Mats Zuccarello-Aasen-17-27-44
Michael Del Zotto-9-35-44
Ryan Callahan-21-20-41
Chris Drury-16-18-34
Marc Staal-8-25-33
Todd White-10-21-31
Michal Rozsival-4-21-25
Sean Avery-10-10-20
Dan Giradi-8-12-20
Brandon Prust-6-9-14
Steve Eminger-2-12-14
Erik Christensen-3-10-13*Injury
Ryan McDonagh-1-10-12
Matt Gilroy-1-1-3*Traded in December after stint in Hartford
Derek Boogaard-0-0-0
Total Goals:226
6th place finish second round exit
wow i actually kinda agree with this. which is weird cuz i almost never do. Todd White might only play a handfull of games so i dunno bout that and everyone seems to think Drury will be scoring 15-20 goals i just don't htink it will happen. add a few to Gabby and Del Zotto and it's lookin good.
I don't think we'll go that low, but 260 is a little over-optimistic.
I see us matching what we had last year, maybe a little more. 230 sounds right.
i went by a mathematical approach rather than a "gut feeling" approach. you can read it on my site if you like...but the team, if everyone is producing at their career levels, would put up 256 goals, i then factor in the 80% difference between last years projection based on the same formula and the actual results.
The rangers scored 222 goals last year. I think they will score more this year. But they will not come close to scoring 260. MZA is a wild card I have no clue what he will do. I think if they keep Dubinsky on the wing he will score 25 this year. And Frolov should score around 25 too. Still the biggest key will be keeping Gaborik healthy. Gabby was healthy for the most part last year and scored 42, they are still very reliant on him.
There are sure alot of people who believe dubinsky will score 25+ on the scoreboard and i just don't see it, I see callahan doing it but dubinsky is a longshot to me for whatever reason, Maybe its because everyone says "next year he'll be a true power forward" and none of that has happened at all.
It's threads like these, which is why "the rest" makes fun of the Ranger fan base. 
It's just a hockey forum, we can speculate about whatever we like.
