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08-03-2010, 02:41 PM
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To Boston: Alex Goligoski

To Edmonton: Joe Colborne

To Pittsburgh: Jordan Eberle
To Edmonton: Jordan Staal

To Pittsburgh: Ales Hemsky and Jordan Eberle


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08-03-2010, 02:43 PM
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After seeing Go Go's play in the playoffs (even defensively) I have no reason to want to move him.

Especially seeing him QB the PP. He did a great job.

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08-03-2010, 03:07 PM
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Hey back off the Canucks were gearing up to trade Alberts + Hordichuk for him! Thats a way better deal seeing how its 2 players who play in the NHL for one who doesn't!
Yeah but Fitzpatrick was almost an all-star once!!!

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08-03-2010, 03:21 PM
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To Boston: Alex Goligoski

To Edmonton: Joe Colborne

To Pittsburgh: Jordan Eberle
This is just my opinion, but, I don't think Eberle and Colborne are the type of guys who get traded befor their teams give them a chance in the NHL.

I think they both have the potential to be 1st liners, especially Eberle. The teams aren't sure exactly what they have in those players yet and they both have very good potential, so while Goligoski might be a good fit in Boston, I just don't see them trading Colborne for him especially when they don't have any cap space.

I don't see Edmonton trading Eberle because he is a very young potential 1st liner and exactly what the Oilers need. Correct me if I am wrong, but didn't Eberle outscore Hall and Seguin last year?

Nothing against Goligoski, I just think these teams want to see how these players play in the NHL before they ship them off. Eberle has the most value I think, it would take more than Colborne to get him.

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08-03-2010, 03:49 PM
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This is just my opinion, but, I don't think Eberle and Colborne are the type of guys who get traded befor their teams give them a chance in the NHL.

I think they both have the potential to be 1st liners, especially Eberle. The teams aren't sure exactly what they have in those players yet and they both have very good potential, so while Goligoski might be a good fit in Boston, I just don't see them trading Colborne for him especially when they don't have any cap space.

I don't see Edmonton trading Eberle because he is a very young potential 1st liner and exactly what the Oilers need. Correct me if I am wrong, but didn't Eberle outscore Hall and Seguin last year?

Nothing against Goligoski, I just think these teams want to see how these players play in the NHL before they ship them off.
Eberle has the most value I think, it would take more than Colborne to get him.
That's a reasonable opinion. It all depends on a) how pressing the need for a cap-friendly PMD is in Boston, and b) how pressing the need for a big talented natural center prospect is in Edmonton.

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08-03-2010, 03:57 PM
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To Edmonton: Jordan Staal

To Pittsburgh: Ales Hemsky and Jordan Eberle


The Oilers would sure be short on RWs mate.

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08-03-2010, 05:36 PM
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Ya I'm so serious Penner is a RW and pretty sure Brule can play RW
Also this would make us very deep down the middle. Not sure Pitt would accept though

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08-03-2010, 06:23 PM
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That's overpayment for Staal. If I'm Pitt I'd do Staal for Hemsky + Brule.

Gives them the best offensive winger they've had in awhile and a decent checking center.

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08-03-2010, 06:40 PM
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There's really no reason for either the Pens to trade Staal or for this to turn into a Staal proposal thread.

The Staal/Hemsky idea has been visited several times before - it doesn't need to be re-hashed here.

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08-03-2010, 08:19 PM
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LOLZ @ YOU MR OP!

In before the lock!







PS: While we're at it we could also trade you Taylor Hall for a 7th rounder in 2013!

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08-03-2010, 08:21 PM
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To Edmonton: Jordan Staal

To Pittsburgh: Ales Hemsky and Jordan Eberle
A first line RW and a damn good RW prospect for a 2nd line center who's spent most of his career playing 3rd line center?

LOL WUT?

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08-03-2010, 08:39 PM
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To Edmonton: Jordan Staal

To Pittsburgh: Ales Hemsky and Jordan Eberle
Hello, Pittsburgh fan here.

Allow me to run away with this trade, then LOL the entire way back to Pittsburgh.

That's a steal and a half for us. Good lord!

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08-03-2010, 08:43 PM
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Eberle and Colborne are the same age. One is the all time leading Canadian goal scorer in the WJCs, and made the team 2x. The other was never even selected. Colborne, because of his size and skill is an intriguing prospect, but is nowhere near Eberle in value.

I not only would trade Colborne for Eberle, but I'd even add our own 1st this year to do it.
I enjoy you are not Chiarelli.

I keep Colborne. Eberle is so overated it not even funny.

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08-03-2010, 09:04 PM
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Wow Eberle for Colborn is a joke.. Maybe add in Lucic and it's a deal, but we will not be giving Captain Clutch away for less than his value in fractions.

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Yeah, but Eberle's profile isn't a heck of a lot different from Brad Marchand at the same age. Brad made the WJC 2x as well, and scored some big goals.

I think there are at least 10 GM's in the league who would take Colborne over Eberle. The value is pretty close.

As a side note, I would love to see how people rated Eberle minus those two or three huge WJC goals that made him a national hero. Granted, he's a clutch player--but I think he's gettting a lot of milage out of those goals.
Brad Marchand
18 years old 57GP 33G 47A 80Pts
19 years old 59GP 31G 42A 73Pts

Jordan Eberle
18 years old 61GP 35G 39A 74Pts
19 years old 57GP 50G 56A 106Pts


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I find it interesting across the board how highly we all rate WJC players from the OHL and WHL but we know next to nothing about the NCAA players.

Just goes to show you how influential the WJC is on Canadian hockey fans, and how powerful the Junior hockey program is in Canada.

Colborne is showing as much skill and potential at the camps and the AHL stint as Eberle looked. I still think Edmonton keeps Eberle in this deal, but Colborne is a lot better than people outside of Boston and Denver give him credit for.
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AHL
Eberle 20GP 9G 14A 23Pts
Colborne 6GP 0G 2A 2Pts

Colbornes a good prospect and seems to have the talent to be a good NHLer. But he's not on the same level as Eberle

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08-04-2010, 08:40 PM
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I enjoy you are not Chiarelli.

I keep Colborne. Eberle is so overated it not even funny.
Well you make a solid argument, I mean, when you put it that way I kind of wish we had Colborne instead of Eberle.

The only conceivable advantage to Colborne's game over Eberle is that he has more size. Does he use it to his advantage though??? He might be the softest 6'5 200+lb player in history. The guy doesn't battle it out in the corners, he's not tenacious going to the net, he's a 6'5 perimeter player. I'm only speaking on what I saw from him in the AJHL, but in talking to some people who watched some Denver games, not much has changed. I'm not saying the guy won't be a decent NHLer, but he doesn't sound like he's going to battle every shift. Sounds like a bigger version of Patrick O'Sullivan. We just got rid of that POS, we don't need another.


Also, Eberle is more important to the Edmonton franchise than just his potential as a prospect. He grew up an Oilers fan, grew up in the same community as late Oilers scout Lorne Davis and was drafted the year Davis passed away (the player Davis urged the Oilers to draft while battling health problems). The kid is destined to be the one guy who actually signs for less to stay in Edmonton. There are almost no players who would ever consider this. What type of importance would you place on the guy if the story was switched to your team? As close to untouchable as Hall.

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08-04-2010, 09:07 PM
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If I'm Pitt I'd do Staal for Hemsky + Brule.
That's cool, Shero wouldn't.

What should we do after going to back to back finals, and winning a cup? I know, trade away a big piece of our core, yep, that makes sense.

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08-04-2010, 09:13 PM
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I enjoy you are not Chiarelli.

I keep Colborne. Eberle is so overated it not even funny.
Why would you keep the lesser prospect?

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That's cool, Shero wouldn't.

What should we do after getting bounced by the 8th seed? I know,stand pat, yep, that makes sense.
Agreed.

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Colborne And Eberle are both great prospects, bigger players some times take longer to develop. Eberle is a better prospect now but Colborne could become a better player only time will tell

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Agreed.
Aw shucks, we didn't make it to the ECF (Somewhere Boston hasn't been in a loooong time) for the 3rd year in a row...Well, looks like its time to trade Staal, Crosby, and Malkin for picks and prospects and rebuild.

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Why would you keep the lesser prospect?
Lesser prospect ? I talk more about you'll add our first pick ?

Eberle number are there since he's in the WHL, but the Bruins still pick Colborne at 16th, 6 pick before Eberle get draft at 22, Maybe just Maybe the Bruins (and others) see something they prefer better than what Eberle can bring. Its not like Colborne stock drop since, his stock never stop going up, yes Eberle too. but adding a first pick is insane.

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The Bruins - Would say yes but have no room to play him him. So that essentially a no.

The Oilers - Would say no. Eberle > Colborne. Eberle and Hall played together very effectively on WJC squad.

Pens - Would say no. Do they really have the defensive depth to part with an up and coming offensive defensemen?
Yes. We have Despres. Martin and Michalek are locked up for 5 years. Letang is locked up. Orpik will resign. Solid top 4 right there. Goligoski could easily be moved.

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08-04-2010, 11:06 PM
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Yes. We have Despres. Martin and Michalek are locked up for 5 years. Letang is locked up. Orpik will resign. Solid top 4 right there. Goligoski could easily be moved.
I wouldn't say "easily".

It has to be the right return, and Eberle has a lot of what the Pens would need in return if they were to part with Gogs (young, winger, RH, natural goal-scorer).

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Edmonton gets screwed beyond belief in this deal.

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