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07-23-2010, 07:36 AM
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I thought his answers were incredibly short....then I realized his answer for languages included "a little English." So that explains it.

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It'd be tight. I posted this in another thread, but I think we'd have 11 million (plus limited cap space) to resign Carter, Giroux, Zherdev, Leino, Carcillo, and O'Donnell. That's not a whole lot of money. I mean, Giroux + Carter could potentially > $10 million. This is, of course, assuming that everything stays the same right now, but regardless, we're still gonna be up close against the cap.
According to capgeek, if the cap ceiling stays the same next year well have $13,436,904 in cap space.

So basically after we sign a backup goalie (assume less then 1M), we'll have about 13M + whatever the cap goes up to sign Carter, Giroux, Leino, Zherdev and will need to sign another 2 forwards.

Really, Holmgren is gonna have to be creative. The way it stands now, 1 of Carter, Giroux, Leino or Zherdev will be gone. We can probably sign 3 of the 4 if the cap goes up by 2M.

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Lololol at Pamela Anderson, and whatever the **** a balalalalalalalaika is. But the governators his favorite actor so he gets a pass from me for all things going into the future.

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According to capgeek, if the cap ceiling stays the same next year well have $13,436,904 in cap space.

So basically after we sign a backup goalie (assume less then 1M), we'll have about 13M + whatever the cap goes up to sign Carter, Giroux, Leino, Zherdev and will need to sign another 2 forwards.

Really, Holmgren is gonna have to be creative. The way it stands now, 1 of Carter, Giroux, Leino or Zherdev will be gone. We can probably sign 3 of the 4 if the cap goes up by 2M.
Yea, creativity's a good word for it. I figure Zherdev's gonna be gone anyway, so I think it wouldn't be that unreasonable to think that they could get the others. It's going to be very, very tight though. Cap flexibility is a concept that seems completely foreign to Holmgren.

I'd also be surprised if we roll into camp with the current lineup. I don't think he's done yet, so that will obviously influence next summer's deals.

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07-23-2010, 08:49 AM
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Yea, creativity's a good word for it. I figure Zherdev's gonna be gone anyway, so I think it wouldn't be that unreasonable to think that they could get the others. It's going to be very, very tight though. Cap flexibility is a concept that seems completely foreign to Holmgren.

I'd also be surprised if we roll into camp with the current lineup. I don't think he's done yet, so that will obviously influence next summer's deals.
Another thing to factor in is that people are using worst case scenario numbers. Leino had a nice playoff run, but he could just as easily flame out during the regular season, and then maybe the Flyers don't want to bring him back. Maybe Zherdev, disappoints. It's a long season and we're basing the costs on best case projections. Things have a funny way of sorting themselves out.

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Another thing to factor in is that people are using worst case scenario numbers. Leino had a nice playoff run, but he could just as easily flame out during the regular season, and then maybe the Flyers don't want to bring him back. Maybe Zherdev, disappoints. It's a long season and we're basing the costs on best case projections. Things have a funny way of sorting themselves out.
I could definitely see this happening. Leino has a disappointing season, so we bring back Zherdev at 3m, Giroux at 3.5m and Carter at 7 for 13.5 total. Which is that amount we plan on having next year anyway. Hopefully accounting for a +2m cap raise and we should be in good shape for maybe 1 bottom 6 player and an AHL call up.

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If Zherdev walks and I think he probably will walk Flyers will sign Radulov. We must have at least one player from KHL every year. Unwritten rule.

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Zherdev's wearing #9 if that hasn't been mentioned yet.

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Another thing to factor in is that people are using worst case scenario numbers. Leino had a nice playoff run, but he could just as easily flame out during the regular season, and then maybe the Flyers don't want to bring him back. Maybe Zherdev, disappoints. It's a long season and we're basing the costs on best case projections. Things have a funny way of sorting themselves out.
Yeah, Leino hasn't proven that he can be a regular season main-stay in his career. He had a great post-season with Detroit too, but then they ended up trading his ass because he couldn't perform for them in the regular season.

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Zherdev's wearing #9 if that hasn't been mentioned yet.
Really? wow, that's a good number, maybe I'll like him.
Ever since I got an autographed photo of Gordie Howe like 20 years ago, 9 has been my fave number.

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Yeah, Leino hasn't proven that he can be a regular season main-stay in his career. He had a great post-season with Detroit too, but then they ended up trading his ass because he couldn't perform for them in the regular season.
They also wanted him to do things, that he may not be suited to do, but moreover didn't want to. European players are finicky like that

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According to capgeek, if the cap ceiling stays the same next year well have $13,436,904 in cap space.

So basically after we sign a backup goalie (assume less then 1M), we'll have about 13M + whatever the cap goes up to sign Carter, Giroux, Leino, Zherdev and will need to sign another 2 forwards.

Really, Holmgren is gonna have to be creative. The way it stands now, 1 of Carter, Giroux, Leino or Zherdev will be gone. We can probably sign 3 of the 4 if the cap goes up by 2M.
You're assuming the potential disaster that a season of Leighton/Boucher might be won't have an impact on our salary cap situation.

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They also wanted him to do things, that he may not be suited to do, but moreover didn't want to. European players are finicky like that
I know. I'm just saying that we shouldn't get our hopes up with Leino.

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Let's also not forget that the team we start the season with wont even be the team we go into the playoffs with.

Carle/Coburn will be most susceptible to a trade at the trade deadline. A trade for a non-playoff team's goalie is more than possible (although wishful thinking at this point), and that changes our salary structure for next year as well.

A lot of things are uncertain. Next off season is a very, very long time away. I am certain a lot of things will change from now til then.

It's possible that we retain Carter, Giroux, Zherdev and Leino.

It's also possible we only retaing Carter and Giroux.

It's even possible that someone doesnt even make it to the end of the season with us...

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Lololol at Pamela Anderson, and whatever the **** a balalalalalalalaika is. But the governators his favorite actor so he gets a pass from me for all things going into the future.
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They also wanted him to do things, that he may not be suited to do, but moreover didn't want to.
WOW! Sorry GKJ, but reading that just makes the Red Wings sound really freaking creepy. And that's not even taking into account the off color connotations that come with the name.

Kudos.

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WOW! Sorry GKJ, but reading that just makes the Red Wings sound really freaking creepy. And that's not even taking into account the off color connotations that come with the name.

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yea i read that too and was like....suprize buttseks??!!

lol

despite this though, i think ville works well with briere. Kind of like, one lazy talented player makes a move, which causes another lazy talented player to have to one up him in order to show how awesomely talented/lazy he is. Hence:
"a great move by leino, who passes to briere, who makes an awesome deke, back to ville, who saucerpasses it back for...danny briere shoots HE SCORES! what a great wrap around by danny briere!"

lol add Zherdev to this line

also, ville is definitely a passer.

Ps: i feel like briere would be an A-hole in NHL 10, sitting behind the net doing wraparounds ALL day lol

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You're assuming the potential disaster that a season of Leighton/Boucher might be won't have an impact on our salary cap situation.
Also assuming that Zherdev and Leino perform, Giroux takes the next step, and Carter develops some more game and becomes a more consistent player.

A lot of what-ifs.

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Also assuming that Zherdev and Leino perform, Giroux takes the next step, and Carter develops some more game and becomes a more consistent player.

A lot of what-ifs.
Carter isn't a real problem... as worst case scenario he goes to arbitration. Giroux will be getting a raise no matter what. How much, will be determined by his play this year.

What has happened, though, is that we, once again, have not invested anything in the goalie position and there's a good chance we will add salary there at some point. It's simply idiotic to be wasting years of our older players with ? goaltending backing them up.

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Giroux is money in the bank. A 4-4.5 per at 5-8 mid season would be awesome. Call me a hater but if carter gets 7 for what he provides i'd say trade his ass for whatever the best package may be.

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Giroux is money in the bank. A 4-4.5 per at 5-8 mid season would be awesome. Call me a hater but if carter gets 7 for what he provides i'd say trade his ass for whatever the best package may be.
Roo will likely prefer an Erik Johnson like contract at 2-3 years/2-2.5M so that he can cash in on his first year or two of UFA after his big point seasons.

Carter will probably laugh at 7 at a reasonable term, he sees what other people are getting. If it is a deal less than 5 years he is going to be asking for 8M. He isn't worth more than Richie (or Briere for that matter, to all the haters), why pay him more? Take the high draft picks and cap space and run.

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Roo will likely prefer an Erik Johnson like contract at 2-3 years/2-2.5M so that he can cash in on his first year or two of UFA after his big point seasons.

Carter will probably laugh at 7 at a reasonable term, he sees what other people are getting. If it is a deal less than 5 years he is going to be asking for 8M. He isn't worth more than Richie (or Briere for that matter, to all the haters), why pay him more? Take the high draft picks and cap space and run.
I'm probably gonna cry when Homer gives him that deal.

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According to capgeek, if the cap ceiling stays the same next year well have $13,436,904 in cap space.

So basically after we sign a backup goalie (assume less then 1M), we'll have about 13M + whatever the cap goes up to sign Carter, Giroux, Leino, Zherdev and will need to sign another 2 forwards.

Really, Holmgren is gonna have to be creative. The way it stands now, 1 of Carter, Giroux, Leino or Zherdev will be gone. We can probably sign 3 of the 4 if the cap goes up by 2M.
better minus 1.25-1.5 million on the Boucher contract extension.

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What has happened, though, is that we, once again, have not invested anything in the goalie position and there's a good chance we will add salary there at some point. It's simply idiotic to be wasting years of our older players with ? goaltending backing them up.
Who do we trade for tho? I feel no matter who we trade for, that Holmgren will overpay. Say a 1st. Can you see Yzerman bending us over for the 3rd time. Say a 2011 1st for Dan Ellis?. I wouldnt laugh at that thought. We currently have no backup plan as it appears Backlund could be damaged goods. I dont want Bobo this season. he needs a year in the AHL.
or a worse thought could be signing Theodore.
This is going to be a potentially long season with the goalies. again.


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I'm probably gonna cry when Homer gives him that deal.
Homer gives him that and a NMC and I will personally drive to Homer office and give him a little piece of reality.

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