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08-06-2010, 10:23 PM
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From a Rangers standpoint, one must ask the question, with the signing of Frolov(albeit one year), is Dubinsky expendable....? Hense my proposal

To Pittsburgh: F Brandon Dubinsky

To New York Rangers: F Max Talbot
D Ben Lovejoy

From Pittsburgh's perspective, it allows them to acquire that scoring winger that Crosby definitily covets.

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08-06-2010, 10:26 PM
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From a Rangers standpoint, one must ask the question, with the signing of Frolov(albeit one year), is Dubinsky expendable....? Hense my proposal

To Pittsburgh: F Brandon Dubinsky

To New York Rangers: F Max Talbot
D Ben Lovejoy

From Pittsburgh's perspective, it allows them to acquire that scoring winger that Crosby definitily covets.
i hope your ready for an angry mob of rangers fans, this is absolutely brutal

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go easy on him ranger fans, go easy!

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How??? The rangers lack grit. If anything, they already have too many "Dubinsky" type of players.

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How??? The rangers lack grit. If anything, they already have too many "Dubinsky" type of players.
do you have the right player?

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08-06-2010, 10:31 PM
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dubinsky IS our grit
we have no use for d prospects or third liners, got plenty of both

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Dubinsky=soft
Gaborik=soft
Frolov=soft


TALBOT=Grit + can check the oppositions top line

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Dubinsky=soft
Gaborik=soft
Frolov=soft


TALBOT=Grit + can check the oppositions top line
would you take Boyle and Eminger for Kunitz? b/c thats the value your offering.

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Dubinsky=soft
Gaborik=soft
Frolov=soft


TALBOT=Grit + can check the oppositions top line
I'm sorry but have you watched ANY rangers games? It's clear that you haven't. Dubinsky is a big bodied guy who doesn't back down from anybody and always sticks up for his teammates. He is far from soft.

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08-06-2010, 10:39 PM
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i'd give up rupp instead of Max, i want him to be a penguin forever though this whole proposal would never happen anyway doesnt mean i wouldnt like it though

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i'd give up rupp instead of Max, i want him to be a penguin forever though this whole proposal would never happen anyway doesnt mean i wouldnt like it though
That's perfect, because I would give up Redden for Jordan Staal.

Brutal proposal, OP. Dubinsky soft? Seriously?

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Dubinsky doesn't like Crosby very much, I don't think that would go down well.

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From a Rangers standpoint, one must ask the question, with the signing of Frolov(albeit one year), is Dubinsky expendable....? Hense my proposal

To Pittsburgh: F Brandon Dubinsky

To New York Rangers: F Max Talbot
D Ben Lovejoy

From Pittsburgh's perspective, it allows them to acquire that scoring winger that Crosby definitily covets.
I am hardly the biggest Dubinsky supporter on the Rangers board. In fact, I have raised the ire of my fellow posters several times precisely by suggesting he IS expendable (due to Frolov's presence coupled with, more importantly, the fact that the majority of the organization's top offensive prospects play LW), but Dubinsky for Talbot plus Lovejoy?

Please take a look at the Rangers' roster and tell me who Talbot repaces? As for Lovejoy - I think he'd slot in somewhere around 10th or 11th on the Rangers' defensive depth chart. Then consider that Dubinsky was widely reported to be the key piece that Ottawa demanded for Heatley, that Boston demanded for Kessel and that Atlanta wanted for Kovalchuk.

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08-06-2010, 11:06 PM
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Dubinsky = soft?

Well, we know he sure knows his Ranger players, doesnt he?

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dubinsky isn't soft. he wasn't voted best agitator in the whl for no reason. Have you ever seen a soft agitator. Im thinking right now of Markus Naslund trying to piss someone off.
I wouldn't even call Frolov or Gaborik soft.

From what I've read Frolov goes into the corners and is great at puck possession.
Gaborik may be injury prone but he dropped the gloves with Carcillo. He is tough player.

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how dumb do you have to be to call dubinsky soft. i am a Bruins fan and i really don't like the rangers and there players much but dubinsky is a guy i really like. he is all heart and soul and does not back down from anyone.

you got to know things about players before you go making proposals.

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how dumb do you have to be to call dubinsky soft. i am a Bruins fan and i really don't like the rangers and there players much but dubinsky is a guy i really like. he is all heart and soul and does not back down from anyone.

you got to know things about players before you go making proposals.
haha no offense I just find it funny that you hate the Rangers and your name is PJ Stock and he scored the first goal in Hartford Wolfpack history and was a former Ranger

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The only Duby the Pens can get with that package is the one you are smoking.

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08-06-2010, 11:16 PM
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Cmon guys, tone it down LOL.

Basically, I don't see where Dubinsky fits on the Rangers anymore,and I think people on here are undervaluing the importance of having a player like Talbot on your team. He is a proven playoff performer.

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Cmon guys, tone it down LOL.

Basically, I don't see where Dubinsky fits on the Rangers anymore,and I think people on here are undervaluing the importance of having a player like Talbot on your team. He is a proven playoff performer.
Talbot is a third liner, The rangers have an overabundance of them already.
You don't see where he fits in on the Rangers? Open your eyes dude. He's a necessary piece of our top 6 right now. He's our second line LW. thats where he fits. He's 2 years younger than Talbot and already scored 20. Talbot hasn't even sniffed 20.

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Cmon guys, tone it down LOL.

Basically, I don't see where Dubinsky fits on the Rangers anymore,and I think people on here are undervaluing the importance of having a player like Talbot on your team. He is a proven playoff performer.
And the Rangers, without Dubinsky, are not a playoff team.

Why would they downgrade from a 2nd line winger to a bottom 6, 2 years older? For Ben LoveJoy? I dont think so.

I should remind everyone that it was when Dubinsky was asked for in a deal for Heatley that Sather hung up the phone. Dany Heatley.

People should stop making proposals for Callahan and Dubinsky because Sather has made himself perfectly clear; you can't have them.

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Cmon guys, tone it down LOL.

Basically, I don't see where Dubinsky fits on the Rangers anymore,and I think people on here are undervaluing the importance of having a player like Talbot on your team. He is a proven playoff performer.
If you followed him closely you'd know he fits on them. They are a very soft team. Dubinsky is a gritty, talent forward who plays a good two way game. He has also showed the versatility to be able to play with almost anyone he is paired up with. He can play both C/LW. The Rangers don't need Talbot. They have a 7 m dollar 3rd line centre in Drury. Dubinsky also has a ton of more upside. Once he hones him offensive game, I see him putting up consistent 65-75 point seasons.

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The only Duby the Pens can get with that package is the one you are smoking.
This is the winner for comic relief for this thread!!

As to the original post:
1) Dubi has grit; not Chara 'thou shall not pass' or Kovalchuk stop a freight train kind of grit, but the few odd shifts here and there he takes off and gets lost aside, he is usually working hard on every shift, including digging into the corners, which is what i consider a common agreement on definition of NHL grit to be, or at least include. Thus trading BD does not really give NYR more grit.

2) NYR are about upgrading, this doesn't do it for NYR.
How about a counter PROPOSAL:
Dubinsky, Girardi, Ethan Werek (W still needs development but supposedly already is advanced for offensive side of game, including as to his shot, might be a sniper for SC end of this year or next), Andrew Yogan (NYR third round pick this year, big C)
and a third round pick for
Jordan Staal

Constructive comments......

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08-07-2010, 09:05 AM
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Dubinsky=soft
Gaborik=soft
Frolov=soft


TALBOT=Grit + can check the oppositions top line
i guess u havent seen this


http://www.hockeyfights.com/fights/93291


http://www.hockeyfights.com/fights/47527


rangers wouldnt trade dubinsky for healtey and sather is gonna trade him for talbot

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Wow. My nickname is Bretzky and you are giving it a horrible reputation. Why on earth would the Rangers do this? Trade our best and most NHL-ready left-winger for a fourth liner and a D-prospect when D is our strongest system position?

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