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That's why I said the base would be Ryan for kaberle+ schenn
i know. But leafs fans dont see the + and they think they dont have to add. I dont think Ana/Tor are good trading partners for Ryan anyways, unless Murray values Schenn really highly
No it's not. It really isn't. Toronto would have to trade their 1st round pick in 2012 and 2013 and add a 2nd rounder. Even then, I doubt the Ducks do it.
Acording to cap geek.com
the Anaheim Ducks have aproximatly 13.5 million in cap room
whilst the Toronto MAple Leafs have around 2 million
I have spent a while thinking a bout this trade and I think I have come up with a deal that helps both teams
Anaheim:
has only 1 big flaw in there team and that is there Defence, Anaheim only has Two defence left on there team aswell as a few promising prospects but in this deal I am offering a way to complete there top 4
Anaheim will recieve any 2 of
Francois Beauchemin
Tomas Kaberle
Mike Komisarek
Carl Gunnarsson
Anaheim also recieves a strong Prospect Keith Aulie whom they can use as a 5th or
6th line defenceman
Toronto:
In exchange for the two Defenceman Toronto recieves Bobby Ryan
and in there side of the Prospect swap is Matt Belensky
so the Trade looks like this
Toronto gets
Bobby Ryan
and
Matt Belensky
Anaheim gets
any of 2 of
Francois Beauchemin
Tomas Kaberle
Mike Komisarek
Carl Gunnarsson
and
Keith Aulie
Both prospects are exchangeable or removable if need be
why they do this
Anaheim has 2 defence man signed to contract and wether they want 2 reliable guys like Beauchemin and Komisarek or if they believe they can resign kaberle then he is the way to go, and if they want a younger player then they would want to grab Gunnarsson.
Anaheim has many options in this deal to complete there top 4 and an option of a future top 4 or a 5th or 6th man in Aulie
Toronto
Gets a great player that will fit in great with Kessel
they also recieve a future top 6 forward in the deal
Toronto can afford to lose 2 defenceman because of our great depth in D
If this trade was done Leafs still have
Phaneuph,Schenn, and the 2 Defencemen that were not given away in this trade make up the top 4
and then lebda and a prospect to complete the defence
This proposal sucks for the Ducks and its Beleskey, not Belensky. Your whole post has grammatical errors and its pretty one-sided but I'll stop there and just say the Ducks give a big "no thank you".
How about Schenn + Caputi + Hanson + D'Amigo + 2nd round pick 2011? All are really good prospects.
Schenn (yet to reach potential, good young D still learning) + Caputi (really good in juniors, never translated to NHL, bottom 6 player) + Hanson (lazy backchecker, not overly skilled, bottom 6 player) + D'Amigo (High risk/reward prospect that's still a longshot for NHL) + 2nd round pick = Bobby Ryan (Sure fire power forward, All-Star for years to come, core player for Ducks)?
The only good prospects left in the leafs system in Riemer (Anaheim doesn't need) and Kadri (yet to prove anything outside of juniors).
Let's just say the Leafs don't have the picks nor prospects to get this deal moving.
No it's not. It really isn't. Toronto would have to trade their 1st round pick in 2012 and 2013 and add a 2nd rounder. Even then, I doubt the Ducks do it.
So Beauchemin + Kaberle + Caputi + 1st 2012 + 1st 2013 + 2nd 2012? Lol if you think we would give up that much for Bobby Ryan.
Pretty sure that would fetch Ryan since it's massive overpayment. Hell we still have Kessel there too if I wanted to make the point even more far fetched.
Perhaps you meant to say there's no package that Burke *would* offer that would fetch Ryan, rather than *could* offer
Schenn (yet to reach potential, good young D still learning) + Caputi (really good in juniors, never translated to NHL, bottom 6 player) + Hanson (lazy backchecker, not overly skilled, bottom 6 player) + D'Amigo (High risk/reward prospect that's still a longshot for NHL) + 2nd round pick = Bobby Ryan (Sure fire power forward, All-Star for years to come, core player for Ducks)?
The only good prospects left in the leafs system in Riemer (Anaheim doesn't need) and Kadri (yet to prove anything outside of juniors).
Let's just say the Leafs don't have the picks nor prospects to get this deal moving.
Caputi is 21 and has played 28 whole NHL games. That's hardly enough to say that he's peaked out as a bottom 6 player.
I'd rather sleep in a pile of goat piss than trade all of that for Ryan, how does this help Toronto at all? That's just as bad as the lowball offers for Ryan.
From Ducks office: "Sorry guys You have the wrong number. This is Anaheim Ducks and we do not have a Ryan of your price level. Maybe You wanted to call Boston for Mihael Ryan? If You still keep on pushing we can give you Ryan Carter for those kids."
A defensmen we've already had who left Anaheim for a payday who played like garbage without Niedermayer
A great defensmen who will probably walk at the end of the season
And a prospect that is thrown in in every single Toronto proposal
Truthfully I wouldn't touch Bobby Ryan with a ten foot pole. There is no doubt he is a great player,but he would just cost to much. If the Leafs really felt the need to trade T-Kabs and Schenner I would be interested to see what the could get from other teams.
Not being a Leaf or Duck fan this offer seems most fair.
While all 3 Leafs together today do not equal Ryan they all have upside and the hope (for the Ducks) would be 1 or 2 could reach it.
Ryan is a top line known commodity that is also young so also has upside. He is already a 1st liner and can move upward from there
Schenn and Gunnarsson are what appears to have the potential to be a good 2nd pairing. Maybe one of them in time can pair with a true top pair guy to form a good 1st unit but neither really projects to be the #1.
Kadri? ?? Could be a #1 or maybe a #3 center. Too early to say.
If Toronto wants that star now up front rather than waiting on a maybe (Kadri) it costs actual assets not guys they want to get rid of who are either over priced or over valued.
I also do not see anyone interested in the overpriced non stars Toronto has hoarded on their back line. Do you really think there is any market (with value) for Komi, Beauch, Phan, Kabs, Finger or even Lebda who must have pictures of Burke at a boy scout camp or something to have gotten almost 1.5 mill as a #6 or 7 D-man?
Okay, now this is just getting ridiculous. That does not help the Leafs at all. People have gotten into there heads that the Leafs need to overpay for everything because there the Leafs and they make bad proposals. The fact is that some of the Leaf fans do make bad proposals, but at this point the fans of other teams are making proposals that are just as bad.
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